Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

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ORIGINAL: mattj78

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

people like Alfred keep people away from this forum and as a result the game it really is a turn off considering how good this community is he is a wrecking ball

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: mattj78

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

people like Alfred keep people away from this forum and as a result the game it really is a turn off considering how good this community is he is a wrecking ball

Another fact free ad hominen poster.

Where is your track record of providing value to the game. Or are you the sorcerers apprentice when it comes to the world of trolldom.

Where is your evidence to support your claim. Ever considered that people contact me disproving your baseless claim.

Your post demonstrates you prefer to allow detailed incorrect technique to be posted. Commentary posted in such a manner that it easily misleads inexperienced players to incorrectly believe it is the correct technique.

You find me a problem, well go back to your echo chamber where everyone's ego is massaged irrespective of the merits of the comment. I don't award participation certificates to the little kids who run last; only podium finishers get a medal. An echo chamber which is very similar to the fable of the land of the blind where the one eyed was king.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

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ORIGINAL: mattj78

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

people like Alfred keep people away from this forum and as a result the game it really is a turn off considering how good this community is he is a wrecking ball

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Mike

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

Full-blown collection of Neo-nazi memes. You really are a winner.

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

Full-blown collection of Neo-nazi memes. You really are a winner.

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

Full-blown collection of Neo-nazi memes. You really are a winner.

Why Matrix tolerates your celebration of Nazism is illuminating.

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ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Of all the "people" on this forum who could tell anyone else to chill out with the slightest bit of credibility, you are the very last one on the list. Just go away.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

Full-blown collection of Neo-nazi memes. You really are a winner.

Why Matrix tolerates your celebration of Nazism is illuminating.

Just relax . . .

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Alfred provides a lot of good information for those people who will accept it. But people do need to read the manual and then find out what is there, then if things work differently ask questions.

Irrelevant. It isn't what he says, it is how he says it. But you have a file of Neo-Nazi symbols you routinely post so I really find everything you say to be deleterious to all rational discourse.

Then you should give an accurate answer to the questions that people ask.

Full-blown collection of Neo-nazi memes. You really are a winner.

Why Matrix tolerates your celebration of Nazism is illuminating.

Just relax . . .

Notice how comfortable the "Alfred sycophants" are with RJ's display of neo-Nazi memes? Never do they take him to task for said displays.

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Of all the "people" on this forum who could tell anyone else to chill out with the slightest bit of credibility, you are the very last one on the list. Just go away.

Apparently you prefer to see what I write as you've had how many years to put me on "block"?

Actions speak louder than words.

Mike

"Good times will set you free" - Jimmy Buffett

"They need more rum punch" - Me


Artwork by The Amazing Dixie

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ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Mock726

After much experimentation I figured out the problem.

When an Amphib TF is made the default values are “Retirement Allowed” and “Unload Cargo”.
When the TF is sailing to the pickup island it is empty, so these are fine.

Turn 1 the TF arrives at the pickup island, empty, you must have selected “Remain on Station” to get it to stick there. Because you can't pre-select the units to be removed and must do it after arrival.

Turn 2 you can select which units the TF will pickup.

Turn 3 the TF loads the units you selected. BUT, if you left the TF set on “Unload Cargo” it will then immediately unload them, that same turn.

Once the “load these” orders have been given you CAN change the order “Remain on Station” to “Retirement Allowed” as you prefer. But you MUST change the “Unload Cargo” to “Do Not Unload” if you have not already done so.

Note: When the TF was loading/unloading on the same turn defenders shot at the Amphib TF, a lot. When the Amphib TF just loads and leaves it did not get shot at. So if you Amphib TF is being shot at a lot it is because you are unloading stuff. Scrolling notes in lower left also contained messages about elements of the units on the island “merging”. Thus showing they were in fact divided, loaded, then immediately unloaded and merged. All in one turn.

I might have assumed that the Retirement/No Retirement command would be triggered as soon as the loading was completed. Nope, after loading it then checks that Unload/No Unload flag and only after executing that does it finally check the Retirement Allowed versus Remain on Station flag. Sequences of events do have consequences.

There was no need to "figure" this out, particularly as you haven't done it correctly for a naval evacuation anyway.

The correct technique to effect a naval evacuation is detailed in s.6.3.3.4 of the manual. Who da thunk the answer would be contained in a section titled "Naval Evacuations". Tricky those devs who wrote the manual, hiding the answer in plain sight.

Alfred

Dude, many of us have politely asked you to chill-out with your patronizing responses.

What is your malfunction? Mock was sharing with us how he figured it out so there was no pressing need for you to open your dirty, filthy mouth.

God knows you wouldn't mouth off to me like you did to him if we we're in the same room.

Of all the "people" on this forum who could tell anyone else to chill out with the slightest bit of credibility, you are the very last one on the list. Just go away.

Apparently you prefer to see what I write as you've had how many years to put me on "block"?

Actions speak louder than words.

When and where I choose to use the green button doesn't change the fact that you are the forum member with the least credibility when you tell anyone else to chill.

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People, people, let's not get our panties in a bunch.

Its been a bad enough day for me as it is.