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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/6/2021 8:40:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rosseau

A general question for you, and I don't mean to be lazy, as you may have addressed this somewhere already:

1. Will/is there a place where we can see all the significant planned improvements over CSME?

2. Also, is there a book or two you can recommend to get us up-to-speed historically on the Nam prior to U.S. involvement? I would like to begin studying.

I am as excited about this game as I was about Decisive Battles: Ardennes Offensive, which I can't stop playing and modding.

(Truth is, I would buy the upcoming CS:Vietnam in a minute if there were no improvements. This game so far appears too historically rich to ignore. And I do my best to recommend both games to wargamers on Steam, etc.)

Hello Rosseau!

There will be a comprehensive What's New list on the game manual, which is mostly completed bar the final review. We try to have it out before the game releases, for everyone to have a good look as what's to come.

As for the book recommendation, for the French Indochina War, one cannot much go wrong by reading Bernard Fall's "Street Without Joy - The French Debacle in Indochina". I've got a fresh Kindle copy with a foreword from 2018 by Fredrik Lodgewall. A classic many of the US commanders made sure to study in detail upon their arrival to Vietnam.

For a more comprehensive book on Vietnam War, I guess one cannot much do wrong reading Max Hasting's "Vietnam: An Epic Tragedy 1945-1975" either. Quite new, from 2018 I believe.

That's my 0.02 anyway. I am sure Jason will chip in, I believe he has some two ship container worth of Vietnam literature alone!



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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/7/2021 5:54:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rosseau

A general question for you, and I don't mean to be lazy, as you may have addressed this somewhere already:

1. Will/is there a place where we can see all the significant planned improvements over CSME?

2. Also, is there a book or two you can recommend to get us up-to-speed historically on the Nam prior to U.S. involvement? I would like to begin studying.

I am as excited about this game as I was about Decisive Battles: Ardennes Offensive, which I can't stop playing and modding.

(Truth is, I would buy the upcoming CS:Vietnam in a minute if there were no improvements. This game so far appears too historically rich to ignore. And I do my best to recommend both games to wargamers on Steam, etc.)




2. Also, is there a book or two you can recommend to get us up-to-speed historically on the Nam prior to U.S. involvement? I would like to begin studying.



I very strongly suggest Mark Moyer, 'Triumph Forsaken' if thats your interest (pre- American years.

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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/7/2021 6:57:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a starting point, I'd recommend the following:

CMH Publications:
76-1 - Deepening Involvement 1945-1964
76-2 - Buying Time 1965-1966
76-4 - Taking the Offensive 1966-1967
76-5 - Turning Point 1967-1968




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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/9/2021 2:02:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		For books, apart from "Street Without Joy", Martin Windrow's "The last valley: Dien Bien Phu and the French defeat in Vietnam" has an excellent introduction to the first Vietnam conflict (I'm currently re-reading it and it's by no means only about DBP).

Super excited about CS:Vietnam coming out!

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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/9/2021 4:53:48 PM   
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"The last valley: Dien Bien Phu and the French defeat in Vietnam"


That is a good read, very much so.


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Super excited about CS:Vietnam coming out!


27 days until final hand-off! YAY!

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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/13/2021 3:44:26 PM   
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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/13/2021 4:28:12 PM   
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Yay BETA!




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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/15/2021 10:30:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Our latest Dev Diary about the Lua powered Event Engine in Campaign Series is now out.

It also discusses how playing our Vietnam game differs from previous Campaign Series games.

Vietnam war will be... different?

Have a look! Campaign Series Event Engine in Vietnam 1.0: Scenario Design (link redirects to our website CSLegion.com)




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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/15/2021 10:47:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Providing a Lua file with battle plans and how to execute them, events, mishaps, what not, was also one of the reasons it took us so long to have the game out.

Programming and testing ca. 100 Lua files took a bit of an effort to complete and test. Hopefully it will be worth it.

Also, we are still learning about this as well, sharing and comparing our Lua notes with each other, early days still. But certainly what we have soon out is not your regular linear battles of the old.

Planting your flag, finally, on that paddy just might not cut it...

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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 12/15/2021 12:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		home stretch now...can't wait.

Thanks to all!


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RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 2:58:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		In November, I set out to write three articles each both for the scenario content in the first release, as well as for the new Event Engine features available in the game.

Who'd have believed here we are, finally, with just a few days before the game's out!

With that, here's the third and final article on scenario content included in the game:

  • The Vietnam War in CS: Vietnam 1.0

    As all the scenarios are now listed in the game mamnual available for download, I did this a bit differently, with introducing one scenario from each Vietnam War year covered here.

    And what better scenario to start than the one which started it all: The First Battle!




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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 2:59:10 PM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 3:14:53 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: Crossroads

    And what better scenario to start than the one which started it all: The First Battle!


    Jason is again live-playing STARLITE at our Twitch channel in few hours time, at 11am PST to be precise.

    Do not miss out!

    https://www.twitch.tv/campaignserieslegion/schedule

    Edit, Oops, it is Ap Bac 1963 being played today!

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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 4:44:36 PM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 4:55:20 PM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 5:07:27 PM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 5:36:15 PM   
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    I'm predicting it will not be pretty.


    Glad to see you are getting into character already Jason

    Many ARVN commanders were similarly inspirational and confident in their units abilities ......

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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/15/2022 5:37:15 PM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/21/2022 5:01:16 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I'm not sure where to place this but my question is......the game is supposed to be 1948 thru 1979 but the scenario list only goes thru 1967. Is this to be added on later or am I missing something?
    I was there is 1969 and am looking for scenarios in that year as well as Hue.

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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/21/2022 5:03:03 AM   
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    ORIGINAL: dbt1949_slith

    I'm not sure where to place this but my question is......the game is supposed to be 1948 thru 1979 but the scenario list only goes thru 1967. Is this to be added on later or am I missing something?
    I was there is 1969 and am looking for scenarios in that year as well as Hue.


    The game is 1948-1967.

    Tet and post Tet will be added as DLC's after.

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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/21/2022 5:16:10 AM   
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    RE: Countdown to CS: Vietnam 1.0 - 1/21/2022 5:21:42 AM   
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    Status: offline     		We already have a whack load of Tet scenarios, they just aren't scripted, it takes a lot of time to do so, but they are on the hit list of what to do next.

    Plus beyond! So many fascinating battles after Tet to do!

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