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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 10/28/2021 1:19:05 AM   
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Matrix forum posters are not "ridiculous" was my meaning. In the old days, I could trust the Associated Press. But no more.

Amazing, the countries you mentioned have been with us since ancient times. I often forget how "new" the U.S. is as a nation.

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 10/29/2021 7:59:28 PM   
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I think better wording would be 'very political' or for the better 'citizens of U.S don't care'. What you call "ridiculous" is real I can say.
History has trends about who will pick a role from the past, even in domestic politics it is the same thing. I can write much about it. Actors and societies can change. Spanish inquisition wasn't much better than radicals todays I was saying ıf you've read my examples about Egypt and Iran. Or the deployment of US forces in Greece. It is real not twitter.

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/2/2021 8:39:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OldSarge

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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Thanks sarge.

I was 16 in 1970.
My father was Command Secretary of British Army Of the Rhine. In Germany.(= Major General)

He said, if the Russians attack on a Wednesday afternoon or a Saturday it’s all over. They were sports days and nobody could get hold of anyone.
Also, for the British sector, any attack in winter if there was more than an inch of snow could not be stopped.

:)



Sounds like you had your own ringside seat to the period. The U.S. Army had similar issues from the late 70s until the early '80s, there was a period of budget shortages that affected everything from spare parts to training.

Things began to change around 1982, new zero tolerance rules for substance abuse and disciplinary problems were established and expected to be strictly enforced, along with an infusion of new equipment and adequate fund appropriations. It made all of the difference.

It wasn't until much later that I found out about Able Archer

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Just think if your battle position was 50 metres from East Germany at that time period . . .

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/2/2021 9:04:26 PM   
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Kars is a border region and still in Russian claims. I think this Cold War somehow overrated and used as inside propaganda inside US borders too much. Where the real nuclear danger was outside US.

For history : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/2/2021 10:59:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: OldSarge

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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Thanks sarge.

I was 16 in 1970.
My father was Command Secretary of British Army Of the Rhine. In Germany.(= Major General)

He said, if the Russians attack on a Wednesday afternoon or a Saturday it’s all over. They were sports days and nobody could get hold of anyone.
Also, for the British sector, any attack in winter if there was more than an inch of snow could not be stopped.

:)



Sounds like you had your own ringside seat to the period. The U.S. Army had similar issues from the late 70s until the early '80s, there was a period of budget shortages that affected everything from spare parts to training.

Things began to change around 1982, new zero tolerance rules for substance abuse and disciplinary problems were established and expected to be strictly enforced, along with an infusion of new equipment and adequate fund appropriations. It made all of the difference.

It wasn't until much later that I found out about Able Archer

cheers


Just think if your battle position was 50 metres from East Germany at that time period . . .


STRAC was an Army term thrown around quite a bit during that period. For officers and the senior NCOs. it mean 'Strong, Tough, Ready Around the Clock'. For the junior NCOs and other enlisted it was translated, as usually happens with such acronyms, into 'Sh!t, The Russians Are Coming!'.


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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/3/2021 2:39:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OldSarge


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: OldSarge

quote:

ORIGINAL: altipueri

Thanks sarge.

I was 16 in 1970.
My father was Command Secretary of British Army Of the Rhine. In Germany.(= Major General)

He said, if the Russians attack on a Wednesday afternoon or a Saturday it’s all over. They were sports days and nobody could get hold of anyone.
Also, for the British sector, any attack in winter if there was more than an inch of snow could not be stopped.

:)



Sounds like you had your own ringside seat to the period. The U.S. Army had similar issues from the late 70s until the early '80s, there was a period of budget shortages that affected everything from spare parts to training.

Things began to change around 1982, new zero tolerance rules for substance abuse and disciplinary problems were established and expected to be strictly enforced, along with an infusion of new equipment and adequate fund appropriations. It made all of the difference.

It wasn't until much later that I found out about Able Archer

cheers


Just think if your battle position was 50 metres from East Germany at that time period . . .


STRAC was an Army term thrown around quite a bit during that period. For officers and the senior NCOs. it mean 'Strong, Tough, Ready Around the Clock'. For the junior NCOs and other enlisted it was translated, as usually happens with such acronyms, into 'Sh!t, The Russians Are Coming!'.


Or kiss the rabbit between the ears . . .

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/3/2021 6:38:50 PM   
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Although I want to like modern warfare gaming. Your point is a reason its not so enjoyable.



I agree.

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/4/2021 9:13:16 PM   
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I have an idea for you: get The Operational Art of War if you don't have it by now. Most of the games in the series have equipment and scenarios from the past 220 years, from Napoleon to... Don't know what the latest scenarios are. In any case the games each should provide you a ton of equipment to play with, from muskets to ICBM and everything between. Therefore with ONE game you should be able to experiment with modern equipment, and should you not like it, still have a ton of mileage with World War stuff and older.

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RE: Why does stuff die so quickly in modern warfare? - 11/4/2021 10:27:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OldSarge
STRAC was an Army term thrown around quite a bit during that period. For officers and the senior NCOs. it mean 'Strong, Tough, Ready Around the Clock'. For the junior NCOs and other enlisted it was translated, as usually happens with such acronyms, into 'Sh!t, The Russians Are Coming!'.

Funnily enough, in Italian dialect it means "Tired to death".

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