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4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/15/2021 4:59:50 PM   
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Germany Fall 1939

This game we've switched sides. I'll try to give an alternate German approach to the war, though of course if it's possible to conquer the Med I'm going to go for it.

I forgot to take a screen shot, but Poland falls as expected with no Axis losses. Everybody else shifts West with an eye to an early attack on the Netherlands and/or Norway.
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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/16/2021 10:04:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germany Fall 1939. Phony war, what phony war? The Germans take Denmark and the Low Countries. The absence of any BEF presence means, I think, that if the French try to counterattack any damage they do will be offset by France falling a turn earlier.

But it's been quite a while since I played Germany, so its entirely possible I'm wrong. One theme for this game, though, is to be extremely aggressive. So off we go. So far two significant minor countries have fallen for only one German INF hit.

If you're the Germans, it's also good to remember to hit the Dutch LF once it leaves port. It's just sitting there in the channel, waiting to be bombed.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/18/2021 12:22:44 PM   
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Liuchow garrison of two militia and one infantry is gone after successive attacks from CAGs supported by HF. Infantry was damaged, militias destroyed as they can only take one hit.
Bombing of rail infrastructure in China has begun.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/18/2021 12:53:19 PM   
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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/18/2021 6:56:23 PM   
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Blitzkrieg. Seeing that the Maginot Line was weakly held, the Germans attack from Holland and Germany in a devastating pincer movement. Maginot + Winter gives the allies a big advantage. But we had combined arms and a significant tech advantage in our infantry. Which meant we could reliably expect to occupy the square.

If the WA want to hold France until the spring they need to bring in some BEF troops, then rush them out the next turn. All in all not a disaster. France would have fallen next turn anyway. But Germany is happy to be slightly ahead of schedule and to have the luxury of repositioning troops to take on Yugoslavia next turn. I forgot to check the Yugoslav's political alignment. Here's hoping for a coup.

The Allies will also be chagrined to see that all of the minor powers have gone to Pro-Axis. Ideally they'll join soon so I can get properly set up for Barbarossa. After bashing the Brits for a bit, naturally.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/18/2021 8:32:32 PM   
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Fighter in Chungking was destroyed, odds were 48% to suffer damage in my air force and the coin didn't fall on my side this time.
The fighter sweep was followed by heavy bombers but again luck was not on my side, no factories were damaged.
Production plans remain secret, so does research & development...

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/19/2021 8:23:13 AM   
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Winter defeat of France, is unfortunate, one turn before a schedule is a big thing at the start. Hopefully, axis minors will not jump on board too soon.
Spies are getting the tech research from WA&China, not from the GE. It seems that Tim has invested in counterintelligence.





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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/19/2021 8:39:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		With China, I was under the impression that Chinese factories kick in every other turn? The second turn of no production leave me a bit short on flaks.
If I'd known before, I would rearrange them a bit differently. I'll have to read a manual more carefully about it.

Chinese are shouting insults to the enemy soldiers, nothing else they can do.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/19/2021 9:54:06 PM   
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With an entire year in front of us, it's tempting to plan for an early Barbarossa. But I doubt the stars will align.

We take Norway, to tidy up the north. As the UK has garrisoned England heavily and risked nothing in France, I decide that the best way to punish them, for now, is in the Med.

Note that though I was ready to attack Yugoslavia politics held me off. I'm hoping for the Yugoslav coup, which in turn will aid in bringing the Axis minors into the war. But I may have to attack next turn no matter way. At least Greece has swing towards the Axis, making it easier to attack.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:02:17 AM   
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Nothing much to report. Japan keeps building its transport fleet and investing in technology here and there to be prepared fot the inevitable war against WA.
CAGs bomb the Chinese rail network to hinder their troop moves, Kunming no longer has rail available.
Heavy bombers hit and damage the factory at Chungking

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:34:19 AM   
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Nothing else to report.

The situation at the Central med is escalating. GE player brought a sizeable air force, and I believe that now is the time for the WA to retreat out of there.
Protect Egypt instead.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:35:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Breakdown of the current Axis units.
A high number of tanks indicates that Germany will push for an early Barbarossa?





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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 6:18:37 PM   
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Yugoslavia refuses to go 'lean allied', which is annoying. But the Russian front drives our schedule, so I invade anyway. It doesn't shift the Axis minor powers because Yugoslavia is neutral. Hopefully Greece will trigger it next turn.

I have a Med strategy, but I don't want to explain it yet. Also I've no idea if it'll work.

The Uboats begin the battle of the Atlantic. Unescorted transports make for easy targets.

I made a major miscalculation in my supply production and will need to remedy that quickly.

Sorry no picture. I'm rushing slightly and forgot to take a screenshot.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:03:01 PM   
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A Medium Bomber was damaged while trying to hit more Chinese rails, the area was flak defended.
Heavy bombers were sent to raid the resource centers but didn't aim properly.
Nothing much else happened...

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:23:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stalin has nothing to do, but to showcase the expansive Italian conquest. WA ships were only damaged, while Reggia Marina was sent to the bottom.
Subs are let loose.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/20/2021 8:25:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is an obvious influx of axis troops to the W. Poland, so I've stopped populating E. Poland and getting my troops ready for the spring attack.
As ready as they can be.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/22/2021 8:18:15 PM   
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A bit of a boring turn. Which is an issue for Germany early. You can't be boring. In hindsight, I probably should have stacked all of my airpower in France and pounded the British in the hopes of hitting a few high-value targets.

Malta falls, as does Greece. But Rumania and Hungary stay neutral. Argh. This is why you need the Yugoslavian coup.

Peacekeeping forces move East to reassure Russia that we have a tight control on the rebellious Poles.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/24/2021 9:22:06 AM   
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Goran manages to place a hit on Kriegsmarine submarines. 2 or 3 of them are damaged this turn.
It seems that there are 6 of them out there atm.

Rommel was not sent to Africa, it remains to be seen there will the army from Greece proceed. I think that Tim is hoping to Rumania? But they have not joined yet. I believe that Bulgaria will join next turn.
Anyway, let the axis worry about their minors states.

W. Poland army grew significantly, that coupled with no sign of German Africa corp, or any meaningful Sea Lion preparation - all point out to immanent Barbarossa.

I don't think GE will strike in winter (although not ruled out), I believe Tim will start the offensive in spring.





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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/24/2021 9:23:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm preparing for it, and my arty is at 8 now.
I'll need the supplies from my dear WA friend. Stalin had always talked about how Churchill is a nice fellow.







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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/26/2021 12:21:26 AM   
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In hindsight, I really should have bombed England. The British can afford to sit out of range in the Middle East. But not London.

Kondor's right, I could have attacked Russia in the winter. However, I think the rules have changed now to avoid a gamey ducking on the Russian winter penalty, and with Rumania still neutral I didn't want to risk a Soviet counterattack that crushed all those precious oil fields.

So all is prepared for when the weather breaks.

The sun is shining in the south atlantic, though, and the Uboat war is launched in earnest.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/26/2021 12:54:30 PM   
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Quick turn for Japan, only remarkable event is that a Heavy Bomber levered a resource center in Kunming, while another had to withdraw from Sinkiang without dropping its load of bombs on the target as the chance of being hit by flak was greater than that of hitting the target.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/26/2021 2:44:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		SU awaits the onslaught. It seems that Tim has similar issues as I had in the last game - Axis minors refuse to join.
Pushing out recruits, and upgrading outdated weapons continues.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/26/2021 8:34:45 PM   
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Once again I forgot to screenshot my maps. Argh.

Germany attacks on both fronts. In the West, the uboats rule the Atlantic, at least for the short term. Africa and the UK are cut off, which I assume will hurt the Allied production eventually. My subs hit quite a few escorts when the WA came after them, but proved pretty useless at attacking warships on my turn. I'll have to look up the rules there.

All in all, it should keep the WA busy and, most important of all, unable to help the Russians.

In the East, Barbarossa. It's not an ideal first turn due to Rumania staying neutral. She did declare war this turn, but it really limited my options. I felt I had to send the panzers into Kiev rather than Belorussia to keep the Russians from launching a suicide attack on my new allies.

I remains to be seen how this will affect the war long term. I may have to go south just because that's where my units are.

I made a big mistake by throwing all of my INF into the initial attack. I didn't need them, and I could have rushed 5 or so to Kiev for next turn. The Germans are a little rusty!

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/27/2021 6:07:06 PM   
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With the new sights of our heavy bombers (Upgraded to level 4 ground attack), the Chungking factory is blown to smithereens.

Nothing much to report, preparations for the inevitable war against the US continue.




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/28/2021 9:37:49 AM   
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I've started with damage control. The first order of business was lifting the spirit of my troops with a win, I desperately need one. And I find a small one with my HB. Enemy fleet in N. Sea does not have an FT-cover (hint to my ally) ).




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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/28/2021 9:40:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		As you can see, I have no troops to seize the Rumania, and I've ordered a full retreat to key strategic areas. Like Kharkov.
I did spend one of my INF units on the suicide attack on empty E. Prussia, just to destroy the railroad there.

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/28/2021 9:45:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Germany's research data was stolen, and it seems Tim is continuing to upgrade the submarines (they are 3:3 now, but he wants that 4:4).
FT-s will not have 2 range yet, but it's under research, together with attack+1 & def+1 as well.





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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/28/2021 9:50:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Militia units have risen against the oppressor. And you can see a defensive army forming in Kharkov and panzer heavy units of the Wehrmacht.





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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/28/2021 9:54:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		My defense will be based on the one thing where the SU is equal (or better) than Germany at this time, and that is artillery. I'm pushing them out in great quantities. Submarines are a problem for the WA atm, so I can't rely on land-lease.
I'll have to build some supplies in the fall to get ready for the winter counter offensive (if Tim presents me the opportunity to hit somewhere).

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RE: 4 Player AAR with new PBEM - Game 3 - 11/30/2021 1:52:09 AM   
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The somewhat hampered spring offensive costs us in the summer. Germany moves up to Kiev and bombs factories, but I can't do much until a big force closes with a major Russian army. Let's see how the first year plays out. I know where I'd like to end up, LOL.

Maybe the Russians will stand and fight (??)




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