Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J)

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J)

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J)

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/25/2021 8:16:12 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

I had hoped that the day would never come but today was the day. Now there is no turning back. My honorable opponent Ale sent me the first turn of our game.

While he worked hard in the last few weeks, doing hundreds of spreadsheets and consulting with the top brass of this forum, I was enjoying the time off and did not think much about the 5+ years to come.

Now It is literally my turn and I am afraid! Afraid of loosing my carriers, afraid of loosing my tankers and afraid of loosing China in the first two month of the game.

As Ale wrote in his AAR, we will be playing scenario 1 with AndyMac's latest map changes. I tried to convince him to play scenario 2, but he did not want to.

Those are our settings:

Fog of War - ON
Advanced Weather - ON
Allied Damage Control - ON
PDU - ON
Historical First Turn - OFF
Dec 7 Surprise - ON
Reliable USN Torps - OFF
Realistic R&D - ON
No Unit Withdrawals - OFF
Reinforcements - fixed for both
Turn cycle - 1

And those are the house rules we agreed on:

House Rules First Turn only:

No new Allied TF creation and no orders to air and ground units outside China
Issuing orders to any TF's that are already formed at start is allowed.
No CV hunting on the first turn
No Mersing gambit
Just one port attack on turn 1
Don't abuse of the magic TF movement to land very far from the initial friendly coasts

House Rules whole game:

Permanently restricted unit cannot cross national borders
Temporarily restricted unit must pay full PPs
Invasion: don't split a small unit in multiple hexes (fragments)

Also there is this House Rule we did agree on in recent smaller scenario games:

Don't do gamey stuff.

Since I'm going to give Ale a chance to comment once in this thread. I will stop here for now and talk about my plans and intentions in the next posts.

(Thanks Deepl for proofreading)

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by huda0816 -- 11/25/2021 8:17:01 PM >

Post #: 1

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/25/2021 9:01:31 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

Only one question: Is your title serious or tongue in cheek? If serious, go to YouTube site and search "Monty Python + Sir Robin".

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 2

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/25/2021 9:30:35 PM

OnWargaming

Posts: 108
Joined: 9/13/2021
From: Italy
Status: offline

I am here just to say good luck and have fun!

Five years?? You are a very optimistic man!

I have other house rules for me that you will discover along the game!

Anyhow I don't think your overall plan will be to give me free hand, nice deception

Last post here, I will read it after the game.

Attachment (1)

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 3

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/25/2021 11:17:57 PM

RangerJoe

Posts: 13450
Joined: 11/16/2015
From: My Mother, although my Father had some small part.
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Only one question: Is your title serious or tongue in cheek? If serious, go to YouTube site and search "Monty Python + Sir Robin".

+1

_____________________________

Seek peace but keep your gun handy.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

�Illegitemus non carborundum est (�Don�t let the bastards grind you down�).�
― Julia Child

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 4

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/27/2021 2:50:59 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Only one question: Is your title serious or tongue in cheek? If serious, go to YouTube site and search "Monty Python + Sir Robin".

Thanks for the tip. In fact, I read about pulling off a Sir Robin. And also my opponent obviously knows about this "tactic".

On the one hand I wanted to create some confusion with this title, on the other hand it should express that I will not pull out too much, but try to hold my ground.

Since we are playing scenario 1, my goal is to stall as long as possible so that his forces are tied up as long as possible.

Another reason for not pulling out is that Ale, as far as I know, appreciates a historical game. The reason he wanted to stick with scenario 1 was, that he wanted to try to accomplish the historical goals in the historical time frame.

I will outline my plans for each theater in upcoming posts.

Feedback is appreciated!

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 5

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/27/2021 3:58:10 PM

RangerJoe

Posts: 13450
Joined: 11/16/2015
From: My Mother, although my Father had some small part.
Status: offline

Oh, pull back what you can but be ready to strike when the opportunity presents itself. If you have not done so yet, read Lowpe's AAR as Allies starting at the beginning.

_____________________________

Seek peace but keep your gun handy.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

�Illegitemus non carborundum est (�Don�t let the bastards grind you down�).�
― Julia Child

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 6

China - 11/27/2021 4:46:54 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

China

I have read a few AARs in the last few weeks and it seems very hard to hold China. I don't need China, but I want to prevent him from using all the freed up divisions from China to subsequently conquer India.

I will probably move some unrestricted British tanks into China as soon as they arrive.

Before I decide what to do in China, I will have to wait and see if he concentrates on Sian or Changsa.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 7

India and Indian Ocean - 11/27/2021 4:47:53 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

India and Indian Ocean

If I were playing as Japanese, I would focus on India (and China) first, since I don't have to worry much about supplies and it's not a death trap like most of the Pacific islands. Even Ceylon in Japanese hands would hurt me more than an invasion of Australia.

The British 18th Division will go to Ceylon and Diego Garcia (it was a difficult decision, but I must not lose Ceylon, and I'm worried that the 16th Australian Division won't arrive soon enough).

TF423 will go to Singapore as planned.

Airfields will be upgraded and coastal cities reinforced.

Engineers will be sent to the Burma-India border to build fortifications and airfields.

I will try to build up Cocos and Christmas Island to secure my shipping lanes to Australia and withdraw aircraft from Java and Sumatra.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 8

Southeast Asia - 11/27/2021 4:50:22 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

Southeast Asia

In Burma, I will try to make a stand in Mandalay. In my game against the AI, the Japanese overran me in Burma. That will probably be the case in this game as well.

In Malaya, I will try to be a brave Sir Robin and try to move as many troops as possible to Singapore, where hopefully they will hold off the Japanese for some time. As I wrote above, the 18th British Division will not go to Singapore, which will make it a little easier for my Japanese opponent. In my game against the AI, I managed to move some units to Java before Singapore fell. I am not sure if that is possible in this game.

Java and Sumatra will not be reinforced. In Java, I will make my stand in Batavia and Soerabaja. In Sumatra, I will move the Marechausee Bn corps to Palembang.

For Borneo and Celebes I have nothing planned.

I am still not sure what to to with Force Z. It would be fun to surprise his landing forces in Malaya but I am not sure if it would make it there.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 9

Phillipines - 11/27/2021 4:51:19 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

Phillipines

In the Phillipines, I will concentrate on Clark and Manila. In my game against the AI, it paid off to have two airfields.

I plan to keep the fighters there, but will eventually pull out the experienced pilots.

I will, however, withdraw the B-17D squadrons. I will also withdraw most of the ships there.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 10

Australia and New Guinea - 11/27/2021 4:52:20 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

Australia and New Guinea

I am not too worried about Northern Australia, because if he tries to invade Australia, sooner or later it will be a death trap for him.

For me, the most important thing is to prevent him from taking Perth, as this would severely affect my shipping to Australia. I also need to defend Australia's industrial centers on the east coast.

Another important action in this area is to bring in U.S. fighters as soon as possible.

Port Moresby will be reinforced, but it is not my plan to hold it at any cost, since it is difficult to supply.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 11

Pacific - 11/27/2021 4:53:14 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

Northern Pacific

I will try to build up Adak Island, but will not commit too many resources or units there.

Central Pacific

In my opinion, this area is important to secure the shipping routes to Australia. Therefore, I will try to reinforce Canton Island, Palmyra and Christmas Island. Most importantly, I will try to establish a base on Tabiteuea.

Southern Pacific

My goal in this area is to hold the Fijis, Pago Pago and Noumea.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 12

RE: China - 11/27/2021 5:13:29 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

China

I have read a few AARs in the last few weeks and it seems very hard to hold China. I don't need China, but I want to prevent him from using all the freed up divisions from China to subsequently conquer India.

I will probably move some unrestricted British tanks into China as soon as they arrive.

Before I decide what to do in China, I will have to wait and see if he concentrates on Sian or Changsa.

Your second sentence contradicts itself when it recognizes that you do need China to soak up Japanese troop strength. With a maximum replacement rate of 325 squads a turn the Chinese can soak up a lot, but you need to get some supply there to get the replacements and you need to send some light AA, A/T guns and those tanks to make up for the Chinese lack of heavy weapons. The AVG should also pop in and out to hit weakly escorted bombers. Send those reinforcements to places from which they can retreat and recover if Japan concentrates too much against them. All part of the delay game.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 13

RE: India and Indian Ocean - 11/27/2021 5:26:49 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

India and Indian Ocean

If I were playing as Japanese, I would focus on India (and China) first, since I don't have to worry much about supplies and it's not a death trap like most of the Pacific islands. Even Ceylon in Japanese hands would hurt me more than an invasion of Australia.

The British 18th Division will go to Ceylon and Diego Garcia (it was a difficult decision, but I must not lose Ceylon, and I'm worried that the 16th Australian Division won't arrive soon enough).

TF423 will go to Singapore as planned.

Airfields will be upgraded and coastal cities reinforced.

Engineers will be sent to the Burma-India border to build fortifications and airfields.

I will try to build up Cocos and Christmas Island to secure my shipping lanes to Australia and withdraw aircraft from Java and Sumatra.

Ceylon can be taken by the Japanese in 1942 if he really wants it. He can simply concentrate more power there than you can muster and with KB's help, he can isolate Ceylon from resupply. Bombay and Karachi are the keys to India.

Ceylon has a nice repair shipyard but until you get naval superiority it is a trap for any ship undergoing long-term repairs. I send all valuable damaged ships from the IO theater to Cape Town for repairs in 1942.

In stock Scenario 1 you will get supply building up in Abadan as 10% of the oil refinery production is supply. That can be shipped to Karachi. Most British/Australian reinforcements coming from the European theater will arrive at Aden. From there they can be sent to Abadan and then Karachi, or if you have enough naval escort you can send them Aden to Bombay. And Bombay produces enough supply that it is a must-protect base.

The rest of India is like China - loads of inexperienced, low morale Indian troops and a great deal of land for Japan to try and take. As in China, trade space for time. China has a good rail system and open terrain so protect the main rail system against paratroops and bring tanks/Anti-tank guns/AA for the open terrain.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 14

RE: Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J) - 11/27/2021 5:33:52 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Oh, pull back what you can but be ready to strike when the opportunity presents itself. If you have not done so yet, read Lowpe's AAR as Allies starting at the beginning.

Thanks! I will probably pull back all of my ships as it would not make much sense to sacrifice them but I will not buy out and pull back all aircraft from the Philippines and Southeast Asia. I just fast forwarded Lowpe's AAR again. I am hoping for a game with a slower Japanese conquest.

(in reply to RangerJoe)

Post #: 15

RE: Southeast Asia - 11/27/2021 5:36:49 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

Southeast Asia

In Burma, I will try to make a stand in Mandalay. In my game against the AI, the Japanese overran me in Burma. That will probably be the case in this game as well.

In Malaya, I will try to be a brave Sir Robin and try to move as many troops as possible to Singapore, where hopefully they will hold off the Japanese for some time. As I wrote above, the 18th British Division will not go to Singapore, which will make it a little easier for my Japanese opponent. In my game against the AI, I managed to move some units to Java before Singapore fell. I am not sure if that is possible in this game.

Java and Sumatra will not be reinforced. In Java, I will make my stand in Batavia and Soerabaja. In Sumatra, I will move the Marechausee Bn corps to Palembang.

For Borneo and Celebes I have nothing planned.

I am still not sure what to to with Force Z. It would be fun to surprise his landing forces in Malaya but I am not sure if it would make it there.

Sending more troops into Burma is a losing proposition until you get Air parity, if not superiority. Japan has enough Oscars, Sallys and Lilys that can fly from Bangkok to suppress your troops in Rangoon. Then once they take Rangoon, they reposition their bombers and dominate all the clear terrain in the interior of Burma. As in China, your need to get your troops into good defensive terrain. Resist here and there to slow him down but keep a retreat path to the Imphal-Kohima line and try to keep Ledo airfield for resupply of China by air.

Force Z can sometimes have success protecting the North Borneo coast for the first few turns. Check the bomber range from Cam Rahn Bay to north Borneo and try to stay out of Nell/Betty torpedo range. Sinkawang is a key target for the Japanese so that is a good place to set up and ambush.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 16

RE: Australia and New Guinea - 11/27/2021 5:41:51 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

Australia and New Guinea

I am not too worried about Northern Australia, because if he tries to invade Australia, sooner or later it will be a death trap for him.

For me, the most important thing is to prevent him from taking Perth, as this would severely affect my shipping to Australia. I also need to defend Australia's industrial centers on the east coast.

Another important action in this area is to bring in U.S. fighters as soon as possible.

Port Moresby will be reinforced, but it is not my plan to hold it at any cost, since it is difficult to supply.

As with Ceylon, the Japanese can take Perth or Brisbane if they decide that will be their focus. Keep the rail line to Perth open for retreat by garrisoning against para occupation. The core Australian area to protect is Sydney-Canberra-Melbourne.
If Japan goes into the hex line below Brisbane it triggers substantial reinforcements which arrive in CT, Aden and perhaps other places but need to be transported to Australia (or wherever you decide).

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 17

RE: Pacific - 11/27/2021 5:45:45 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

Northern Pacific

I will try to build up Adak Island, but will not commit too many resources or units there.

Central Pacific

In my opinion, this area is important to secure the shipping routes to Australia. Therefore, I will try to reinforce Canton Island, Palmyra and Christmas Island. Most importantly, I will try to establish a base on Tabiteuea.

Southern Pacific

My goal in this area is to hold the Fijis, Pago Pago and Noumea.

The Japanese will take Makin and Tarawa, which will put Tabituea in easy bombing range for them. Better to reinforce Suva and Pago-Pago until you can get enough aircraft to protect Tabituea. It's a good place for your troops to get experience with Amphib landings after mid-1942.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 18

RE: Pacific - 11/27/2021 5:51:11 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

Overall your plans have the right idea. I think what you underestimate is the bonus the Japanese get in not having to prep troops for their landings until April 1st, 1942. Along with that is instant unloading of amphib TFs. That allows them to move very quickly to take what they want while the Allies can only move much more slowly.

The other big thing in Japan's favour is the much higher experience of troops, pilots and ship's crews. Except for some Australian and British units, the Allies are woefully inexperienced and need six months to get competent.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 19

RE: Pacific - 11/27/2021 6:10:30 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Overall your plans have the right idea. I think what you underestimate is the bonus the Japanese get in not having to prep troops for their landings until April 1st, 1942. Along with that is instant unloading of amphib TFs. That allows them to move very quickly to take what they want while the Allies can only move much more slowly.

The other big thing in Japan's favour is the much higher experience of troops, pilots and ship's crews. Except for some Australian and British units, the Allies are woefully inexperienced and need six months to get competent.

Thank you for your detailed replies. As it is my first grand campaign game against a human opponent I am probably a little bit na�ve. I was hoping that I could draw my red lines earlier. I will rethink my strategy and try to not fight futile battles.

As we decided today that we will kick off our game at the 7th of December, I will have some more days to think about my overall strategy.

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 20

RE: Pacific - 11/27/2021 6:38:40 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

One of the things I should have mentioned is that Japan cannot be strong everywhere. Follow his deployment of LCUs carefully to discern where his main focus will be and reinforce there or keep a force aside that you can use to strike where he is weak.

Initially surface ships are best for the mobile striking force, but Castor Troy recently massed his B-17s and used them as a mobile striking force around the map to hit the IJN in ports. He also concentrated his LBA TBs in the Soerabaja area and scored some great sinkings and heavy damage on Japanese BBs, CAs and CLs. And Lowpe has showed how to hide potent cruiser forces in places unlikely to be reconned - when Japanese invasion forces with poor escort show up nearby the cruisers emerge and do their damage before running away to reload.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 21

RE: Pacific - 11/27/2021 6:51:36 PM

RangerJoe

Posts: 13450
Joined: 11/16/2015
From: My Mother, although my Father had some small part.
Status: offline

Actually, for Java you would be better off defending a base in the mountains near Batavia that has 20 LI to keep some supplies available. No naval bombardments allowed. Get engineers there and start building fortifications. Also, train the Dutch air units for Low Naval. They might only carry one 300 kg bomb maximum or two 500 lbers, but those can seriously damage a cruiser or even sink it. The torpedo planes should not be wasted either and should start training on naval attack with torpedoes. Add some A-24s that start training on Naval bombing and even with relatively low experience and skills you should be able to take out transports and cargo ships unloading if they don't get hit hard by enemy fighters.

_____________________________

Seek peace but keep your gun handy.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

�Illegitemus non carborundum est (�Don�t let the bastards grind you down�).�
― Julia Child

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 22

RE: Pacific - 12/13/2021 4:52:44 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Actually, for Java you would be better off defending a base in the mountains near Batavia that has 20 LI to keep some supplies available. No naval bombardments allowed. Get engineers there and start building fortifications. Also, train the Dutch air units for Low Naval. They might only carry one 300 kg bomb maximum or two 500 lbers, but those can seriously damage a cruiser or even sink it. The torpedo planes should not be wasted either and should start training on naval attack with torpedoes. Add some A-24s that start training on Naval bombing and even with relatively low experience and skills you should be able to take out transports and cargo ships unloading if they don't get hit hard by enemy fighters.

Thanks for the recommendations. I am looking forward to hold Bandoeng until Java's liberation in 1944. Does one month of training really make a difference?

(in reply to RangerJoe)

Post #: 23

RE: Pacific - 12/13/2021 5:05:54 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Actually, for Java you would be better off defending a base in the mountains near Batavia that has 20 LI to keep some supplies available. No naval bombardments allowed. Get engineers there and start building fortifications. Also, train the Dutch air units for Low Naval. They might only carry one 300 kg bomb maximum or two 500 lbers, but those can seriously damage a cruiser or even sink it. The torpedo planes should not be wasted either and should start training on naval attack with torpedoes. Add some A-24s that start training on Naval bombing and even with relatively low experience and skills you should be able to take out transports and cargo ships unloading if they don't get hit hard by enemy fighters.

Thanks for the recommendations. I am looking forward to hold Bandoeng until Java's liberation in 1944. Does one month of training really make a difference?

The month of training may give the defenders enough edge in morale and experience (and prep) to not collapse in the first Japanese attack. If the attacker fails in the mountains, he usually suffers much more in casualties and has to rest for a while, giving the defenders a chance to recover and put to use their new-found battle experience. Unless the Japanese bring in reinforcements their original force is unlikely to crack the mountain stronghold until its supply runs out.

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 24

December 7, 2021 & December 8, 1941 - 12/13/2021 9:43:30 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

It was late when my phone notified me about an incoming email from Ale. It was no surprise that the Japanese attacked on this day. We already knew it will be the 7th but we did not know where.

When I saw the first turn playing out in front of me I was shocked about the devastating results.

Pearl Harbor

My opponent did choose Pearl as his port strike target and was very effective. Not a single Battleship got spared. Arizona and Tennessee sunk instantly and the other 6 BBs got heavily damaged. At least my Aircraft losses were moderate.

I felt relieved that the KB was gone on the 8th of December as another day of attacks would probably have sent some of those BBs to the bottom of the seas.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 88
B5N2 Kate x 116
D3A1 Val x 135

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed, 22 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 22 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 88 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 10 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 35 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 4 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 10 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 62 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 20 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 5 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 56 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 6 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 9 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 damaged
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 9 damaged
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Henley, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Downes, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 86
Port hits 16

Malaya

The war in Malaya started with a concentrated aerial bombardment of Singapore with moderate losses on both sides but an heavily damaged airfield an port.

The Japanese landed in Kota Bharu and took it on the 8th. He probably wanted to land in Kuantan or Mersing on the 8th but my stupid decision to keep Force Z in Singapore made him obviously change plans. This was probably a good decision as I reinforced Force Z put Palliser, Arthur in charge and made them steam north on the 8th.

Fortunately Force Z was in range of JohoreBahrus CAP when the Bettys were attacking it on the 8th.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 52,80

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BC Repulse

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Other Ships which were not so lucky on the 8th when they tried to escape Singapore. For example AMC Manoora which ate 3 fish and will probably sink next turn.

My Dutch submarines were employed aggressively to attack the Japanese landing forces. Hopefully they can do some damage.

Philippines

In the Philippines my troops in Clark Field were woken up by an airstrike which included more than 120 bombers. There was not much left of the airfield after this attack (Airfield Service Damage: 80, Runway Damage: 97).

quote:

Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M2 Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 81
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 20 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 102 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 32 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 22 damaged
O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 39
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 124

On the 8th I transferred all remaining fighters to Manila to provide CAP but I lost more than 14 to his fighter sweeps at 23,000 feet. After he got rid of my fighters he sent in his bombers to shut down my second airfield and he scored a lot of runway hits.

He landed in Vigan and at Batan Island on the 7th. There were no landings on the 8th. My 3 PGs which I sent to intercept his landing forces were attacked by Zeros an will probably sink.

Last but not least I could achieve a success. My Catalinas which I set to naval attack sunk an xAK with parts of the 14th Army HQ.

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,70

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
PBY-4 Catalina x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Hokuan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
1236 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (58 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PBY-4 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 25

RE: December 7, 2021 & December 8, 1941 - 12/14/2021 12:24:22 AM

RangerJoe

Posts: 13450
Joined: 11/16/2015
From: My Mother, although my Father had some small part.
Status: offline

I would take all of those damaged BBs out of the shipyard and put them on Pier side repairs. That way, the Naval Support and Port facilities can help repair the minor damage. Once that gets repaired, decide whether or not to put them into the shipyard or send them to major shipyards on the West Coast. In the meantime, use the shipyard for the smaller ships that need it.

_____________________________

Seek peace but keep your gun handy.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

�Illegitemus non carborundum est (�Don�t let the bastards grind you down�).�
― Julia Child

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 26

RE: December 7, 2021 & December 8, 1941 - 12/14/2021 10:43:56 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I would take all of those damaged BBs out of the shipyard and put them on Pier side repairs. That way, the Naval Support and Port facilities can help repair the minor damage. Once that gets repaired, decide whether or not to put them into the shipyard or send them to major shipyards on the West Coast. In the meantime, use the shipyard for the smaller ships that need it.

Thank you for the advice. Actually only 3 of my BBs were in the shipyard 3 went to Lahaina on the 8th as I was afraid of a second day attack. In which shape would you move the BBs to the Westcoast?

(in reply to RangerJoe)

Post #: 27

Is it a trap or just bad intel - 12/14/2021 10:47:19 PM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

What do you think is it a trap or just bad intel? Also Force Z, which is covered by the tooltip has a detection level of 6/10.

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 28

RE: December 7, 2021 & December 8, 1941 - 12/14/2021 10:58:37 PM

RangerJoe

Posts: 13450
Joined: 11/16/2015
From: My Mother, although my Father had some small part.
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: huda0816

quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I would take all of those damaged BBs out of the shipyard and put them on Pier side repairs. That way, the Naval Support and Port facilities can help repair the minor damage. Once that gets repaired, decide whether or not to put them into the shipyard or send them to major shipyards on the West Coast. In the meantime, use the shipyard for the smaller ships that need it.

Thank you for the advice. Actually only 3 of my BBs were in the shipyard 3 went to Lahaina on the 8th as I was afraid of a second day attack. In which shape would you move the BBs to the Westcoast?

I would fix ALL of the system damage as well as the minor float and engine damage. If they have a long time to repair and a short upgrade, you MIGHT want to do the upgrade but it depends upon where the enemy carriers are.

I personally like the damaged BBs move at least two hexes on cruise in an escort TF so they can move relatively quickly if needed in case of enemy subs. You can also change a cargo and transport TF to an escort TF and move them all together.

_____________________________

Seek peace but keep your gun handy.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

�Illegitemus non carborundum est (�Don�t let the bastards grind you down�).�
― Julia Child

(in reply to huda0816)

Post #: 29

December 9 - 12/16/2021 12:08:47 AM

huda0816

Posts: 75
Joined: 8/7/2021
From: Austria
Status: offline

Shipping

On the 9th the first convoy with fighter planes departed from Los Angeles for Australia. I hope his submarines will not intercept this convoy as I do not have enough destroyers to screen it. At the same time some AOs are heading towards Penrhyn Island to provide fuel for my convoys. Another convoy with troops is on it's way to pago pago and the 16st infantry regiment is loaded on ships to go to Pearl Harbor. Their final destination is Tabiteuea.

Philippines

I almost gave up to fight an air war in the Philippines as his initial bombardments and effective sweeps destroyed or damaged most of my fighters. Luckily he stopped his air attacks on Manila and Clark for two days (maybe LRCAPing his convoys) and I could repair some of the planes. I moved the Cats to Cagayan on the 9th and to Miri on the 10th (more about that later). He managed to land uncontested in Legaspi even if CA Houston should have intercepted his convoy. In the north Aparri has fallen to the Japanese. I am little bit disappointed about my S-boats as they could not hit a single torpedo yet.

Malaya

After Force Z showed up on the coast of Malaya he did not attempt any landings further south. Everyone is packing up there and moving towards Singapore. I managed to move some Buffalos from Burma to Malaya.

Misc

Guam was invaded. The KB is still moving away from PH and as it is not moving southwest but northwest it will probably support a Wake Island invasion. I am just happy that it is not racing towards SEA.

Force Z

I am really happy about the performance of my reinforced Force Z. After they showed up at the Malayan coast and the near miss of the Japanese airstrike I decided to move it out of harm's way. I did not move it towards Java because: a) there seem to be a lot of submarines which are all undetected b) I was hoping that it could threaten his invasion of the Philippines. So my target was Brunei where it should refuel and the move on. In the evening of December 9 they were almost at their destination when this enemy fleet showed up:

At first I was not sure if this is a trap as it was showing up as a bunch of expendable minesweepers. It was not an easy decision and I was thinking about running away. Luckily I did not:

After multiple engagements a large part of his convoy was "under the seas"

Unfortunately Prince of Wales got hit by a torpedo in the last battle

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 64,85, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
APD Aoi, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TB Kasasagi
AMc Wa 19
DMS W-4, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PB Eiko Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kantori Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
AV Sagara Maru, Shell hits 39, and is sunk
xAK Kaiko Maru
xAK Eihuku Maru
xAK Mikasa Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Aso Maru, Shell hits 2
xAK Hokko Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Zinzan Maru
xAK Kinkasan Maru
xAK Giyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Kembu Maru
xAKL Kiko Maru, Shell hits 3
xAKL Anbo Maru
PB Fuji Maru #4, Shell hits 32, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BC Repulse
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
CL Mauritius
DD Vampire
DD Tenedos
DD Electra
DD Express
DD Jupiter

Which left me in a tight spot at the end of the day as you can see in the next image.

Prince of Wales and Repulse are out of heavy ammunition and Prince of Wales' maximum speed is 17knots. I decided to send in an US SCTF with CA Houston, CL Marblehead and a couple of destroyers. The second problem which I have is that the ships are slowly running out of fuel as I could not refuel in Brunei as planned.

I already got the combat results of this turn and I am not 100% happy. What would you have done in this situation?

< Message edited by huda0816 -- 12/16/2021 12:09:21 AM >

(in reply to RangerJoe)

Post #: 30

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> Who is Sir Robin? - Daniel (A) vs Ale (J)

Page: [1] 2 next > >>