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RE: June 7, 1940 - 12/19/2021 8:26:07 PM   
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To be honest, I do not think there are that many players that could actually take France while facing 11 British Corps (including 3 armors) on top of the French Army. I know I could not.


Yeah, I was a bit surprised at how many units the British can raise and send to France as well as how many the French have. I guess it used to be even worse and I saw it was mentioned that a recent patch removed 100 UK starting strength? Overall, a strong defense of France seems like a good approach though not sure how it would stand up against expert level players.

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July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 2:13:27 AM   
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The Germans appear to go all in and surge west of Lille with 4 panzer/mech corps to the French coast trapping 2 Allied infantry corps in Calais. But 3 of these German units are very weak after all the attacks and even though the Allied armor are still recovering the command is given to counterattack with all available forces to save the trapped Allied infantry and punish the overextended Germans!

This pretty much ends in disaster for the Germans as 2 panzer and 2 mech corps are overrun and Lille is liberated! The casualties on both sides are enormous and Allied units are starting to be assembled around Paris and Rouen to be refitted. After these losses, I'm not sure the Germans will continue on as I believe they have now lost most of their panzer/mech corps (7 so far) and will struggle to capture Paris in 1940.



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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 2:14:48 AM   
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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 2:16:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was able to use Allied fleet bombardment for the first time to assist in 1 of the battles which seemed to make a significant impact as my understanding is you can essentially double your land attack power if you have enough surface attack to match the amount of land attack value.



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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 6:48:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		The armored corps need to be protected by infantry corps at the end of each turn. Looks like the Germans do not pay attention to the preservation of the armored corps in this game.

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 7:15:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		With 11 British Corps in France, not sure to what point it matters to be honest.

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/20/2021 7:49:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		GG Lascar. We decided to call this game as Germany has little hope of capturing France any time soon and has lost probably more than is feasible to have a successful Barbarossa. We have decided to switch sides as Lascar would like to try a strong defense of France.

@ncc1701e - Agree, I think my opponent wasn't used to facing as many Allied armor in France so left them a bit too exposed.

@Nirosi - I think it would be a pretty tough force for the Germans to break through but I'm not an expert either. This is only my first PBEM game so I don't want to draw too many conclusions from a single game. The mirror game will hopefully shed some more light.

I would be interested if experienced players consider a strong BEF commitment to France to be overpowered or not?

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/21/2021 1:38:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		How many Escorts did the Brits build?

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/21/2021 1:45:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		@michaelCLARADY - I think they had purchased about 10 and half of those had arrived already (I think I was just under 20 Allied escorts on the last turn). Most of them were built by Canada.

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/21/2021 2:34:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the AAR short as it was

11 corps in France is crazy I barely knew the UK could build that many. It is bad and maybe something needs to be done about it but maybe the main problem here might be the new 3 hex retreat rule.

With that rule change you really can stuff France full with units and when they retreat they wont shatter as they used to. It will be really hard for the Axis to eliminate allied units and the axis will have to do more combats and eventually the effectiveness of Axis units will be too low and France will survive into 1941.

Not sure why that rule was changed since the penalty have been lessened with the eventual return of the shattered corps.

Just shows how crazy hard it is to get these things right .

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/22/2021 4:51:14 PM   
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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/22/2021 5:23:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I took the armor and 1 inf corps from Egypt but sent some canadians there and was gonna send British units from france once Paris was threatened.

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RE: July 5, 1940 - 12/26/2021 9:40:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Which patch level was used? Is it the 1.00.15? Just to be sure this is the latest.

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