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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 5:50:47 PM

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While the information on both Production (on board) and Replacement (off board) rates and starting dates is very important, you have to look elsewhere to get the full picture.

Access any individual Air unit and click on the yellow text line for Upgrade.

You will access a list like the one shown below with air frame types in yellow text.

As the fly out highlight indicates, right click for additional info.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 5:54:46 PM

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Accessing the details for any given air frame type shows the start and end dates for the production runs, both on and off board.

A start date with no end date means the production runs till game ends.

Combining this data with the rates from the tables shown above allows you to get a ballpark idea of how many air frames of that type you will have to work with.

This is critical to understanding how many squadrons you may be able to outfit with a given air frame type and for how long you may be able to operate them, before needing to up or down grade to remain operational.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 8:43:22 PM

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Thank you. I knew that this was a thing from War in the West, but when it wasn't clear to me here I was very confused. So my other question then is what about armaments and vehicles such as tanks etc.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 8:51:47 PM

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So my other question then is what about armaments and vehicles such as tanks etc.

For the Allies those come at a set build rate and are collected into their respective pools. Most types don't become available for many months. You can filter them by type in the Industry/Troops/Resource pool menu.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 8:52:28 PM

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So my other question then is what about armaments and vehicles such as tanks etc.

For the Allies those come at a set build rate and are collected into their respective pools. Most types don't become available for many months. You can filter them by type in the Industry/Troops/Resource pool menu.

Thank you very very much. I assumed it would take some time for the stuff to come to the Pacific

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/2/2022 9:05:10 PM

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It's not too dissimilar to the production system in War in the West.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/3/2022 3:54:35 AM

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So my other question then is what about armaments and vehicles such as tanks etc.

For the Allies those come at a set build rate and are collected into their respective pools. Most types don't become available for many months. You can filter them by type in the Industry/Troops/Resource pool menu.

One thing about build rates - they are subject to die rolls. So in a month of 30 days with a build rate of 6, there is a 6/30 or 1/5 chance of the die roll resulting in production. It should average out to six a month, but it is not uncommon for more than 6 or less than 6 to be produced.

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/3/2022 6:09:45 PM

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Thank you very very much. I assumed it would take some time for the stuff to come to the Pacific

Which is true and many of the AFV have a too early arrival date, just look at the M26 and all the TDs. M26 started appearing in low numbers in EUROPE at the end of 44/early 45 I believe. M10+M18 also too early on this table (at least for the pacific TOO)

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RE: General Advice for Rookies (my questions) - 1/4/2022 9:36:44 AM

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Thank you very very much. I assumed it would take some time for the stuff to come to the Pacific

Which is true and many of the AFV have a too early arrival date, just look at the M26 and all the TDs. M26 started appearing in low numbers in EUROPE at the end of 44/early 45 I believe. M10+M18 also too early on this table (at least for the pacific TOO)

Your statement as to the M26 is wrong on both counts.

A few companies of M26 (standardised, with its "M" designation, from the T26E3 in March 1945) deployed to Europe, including the so-called "Zebra mission" to battle test/assess the vehicle when it was at low rate production. Low rate production started in November 1943 (10 tanks completed), and built up from there. It entered series rate production at Detroit TA in March 1945. 2000 were built by the end of 1945. 320 M26 deployed to Europe before VE day. In the stock scenario, the arrival date of the M26 is too late, and the production rate is too low.

It should arrive after November 1943*, but well before May, 1945. [*March 1945 seems sensible.] The stock May 1945 date might relate to the despatch of an M-26 unit to Okinawa (it arrived too late for combat), but that is an in-game decision for the allied player to organise.

Of 2000 tanks, we'll nominally halve that for tanks sent to Europe, retained in CONUS for training etc - so production rate should be AT LEAST 1000/10 months = 100 per month. Arguably it should be more than that.

Edit: I didn't fact check your assertion about M10/M18, but you might want to read up on the Luzon and Okinawa campaigns wrt to the M18.

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