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RE: Doolittle Raid? - 1/5/2022 9:34:35 PM   
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If the unit were to disband with the aircraft being lost, then that would work but that would also put a time frame on such a raid that the Japanese player could/should be aware of. Thus, the surprise then is lost as well. But other players have raided past the Kuriles which would have a similar effect . . .

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RE: Doolittle Raid? - 1/16/2022 4:03:59 PM   
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Ranger Joe reported correctly that is is said (in reports) that B25s also strafed .

I wonder with what, cause (Wiki)

Removal of the lower gun turret.
Installation of de-icers and anti-icers.
Mounting of steel blast plates on the fuselage around the upper turret.
Removal of the liaison radio set to save weight.
Installation of a 160-gallon collapsible neoprene auxiliary fuel tank, fixed to the top of the bomb bay, and installation of support mounts for additional fuel cells in the bomb bay, crawlway, and lower turret area, to increase fuel capacity from 646 to 1,141 U.S. gallons (538 to 950 imperial gallons, or 2,445 to 4,319 L).
Installation of mock gun barrels in the tail cone.
Replacement of the Norden bombsight with a makeshift aiming sight devised by pilot Capt. C. Ross Greening that was dubbed the "Mark Twain". The materials for this bombsight cost only 20 cents.[17]

And pics show they have no forward gun also...

Also this "Mark Twain" bombsight seems to exactly what Twain wrote ...

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RE: Doolittle Raid? - 1/16/2022 4:22:27 PM   
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quote:

The bombers' armament was reduced to increase range by decreasing weight. Each bomber launched with two .50-caliber (12.7 mm) machine guns in an upper turret and a .30-caliber (7.62 mm) machine gun in the nose. The aircraft were clustered closely and tied down on Hornet's flight deck in the order of launch.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid

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Japanese historians Takehiko Shibata and Katsuhiro Hara revealed that pilot Travis Hoover alone destroyed 52 homes and damaged 14. One bomb blew a woman from the second floor of her house to land unhurt in the street atop a mat. In the same neighborhood 10 civilians died, some burning to death in collapsing houses. Pilots Hoover, Robert Gray, David Jones, and Richard Joyce accounted for 75 of the 87 fatalities. Jones’s attack claimed the most lives—27.

Gray strafed what he thought was a factory, complete with a rooftop air defense surveillance tower. But it was Mizumoto Primary School, where students, like many across Japan, attended half-day classes on Saturdays. After school let out at 11 a.m, many students had stayed to help clean classrooms; one died in the strafing attack. . . .


https://www.historynet.com/aftermath-doolittle-raid-reexamined.htm

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RE: Doolittle Raid? - 1/16/2022 4:24:07 PM   
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Pics above do not show a forward MG... also not this one:

Click:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid#/media/File:B-25_40-2242_Doolittle_Raider.jpg

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RE: Doolittle Raid? - 1/16/2022 4:38:02 PM   
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The nose gun was probably carried inside to protect it against the elements. That would be a little harder to do with the turret guns.

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