Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: altipueri
Bonus request:
3. Can you introduce a random scenario generator to add variety from historical starts/finishes/objectives ?

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ORIGINAL: JacquesDeLalaing

Excellent paatch! Thank you! :)

One thing that I still find very problematical is that you cannot force a unit to use a direct path to an adjacent hex. If there is a road, your unit automatically takes that road, even if it is a far more dangerous path. In other games, this is usually solved by shift/alt+click.

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ORIGINAL: garga3

Hello,

Please test: Main german scenario, select the tiger 2s near Loesenheim and attack the closest recon. Possibly reattack,

I made like 10 attempts. In 2 small engagements(total taking 40 AP or 2.4hours both); losses were 1-5 Tiger 2s (average 3), Of which normally mostly were ATT. ACCIDENT; some MEC. BREAKDOWNS(seems ok compared to the 0.6% per 10 AP); very rarely unlucky bazooka hits. While the mec. breakdowns and combat losses seem reasonable, there is absolutely no reasoning for the artificial ATT. ACCIDENT. On top 3/22 is 14% attrition in 2h of combat against stuarts and greyhounds ..(it can easily reach 23% in worst cases!). I strongly advise removing the ATT. ACCIDENT (not that it is documented anyways). I guess this is due to some random like 1% chance of ATT. ACCIDENT, but tiger 2 make a lot of hits, (most on counterattack!), more than 1 per round; so 1% easily transfers to these absurd losses. The mec. attrition should cover this type, tanks do not just blow randomly.

About the mec.breakdown 0.6% per 10ap translates to 13% breakdown chance per 6h of active combat. I do not posses real data, but it just seems to me this 13% is meant to be per day or even week, and that the port of this rule from another game didnt account for the time scale change, so i would challenge that (but i do like its existence; just please check the exact amount). Also it needs to be applied for all vehiles.

I didnt see any ATT. problems on allied side though, i guess the m4 and greyhounds are immune to any attrition. It could be me not testing enough, but i do think there is a small issue here too.

On top on the second combat in 3 out of 10 combats i had sdkfs and nachturpen just dying without reason. Just from nothing -> DEAD. That needs checking. Thats all the data i can give as that is all the logging the game gives to us. (request: please let us export/save the combat logs as it is in some other dc variants).

Overall conclussion: I really welcome the recon; bridge and fixes changes, but at the moment the combat at least for me is an unplayable mess. I also do not like sneaky changes like the ATT. ACCIDENT which apply only to one side. (also if mec. breakdown applies only to one side it is again no good - please set some values for all vehiles; or can we set this?).

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ORIGINAL: garga3

Hello,

Please test: Main german scenario, select the tiger 2s near Loesenheim and attack the closest recon. Possibly reattack,

I made like 10 attempts. In 2 small engagements(total taking 40 AP or 2.4hours both); losses were 1-5 Tiger 2s (average 3), Of which normally mostly were ATT. ACCIDENT; some MEC. BREAKDOWNS(seems ok compared to the 0.6% per 10 AP); very rarely unlucky bazooka hits. While the mec. breakdowns and combat losses seem reasonable, there is absolutely no reasoning for the artificial ATT. ACCIDENT. On top 3/22 is 14% attrition in 2h of combat against stuarts and greyhounds ..(it can easily reach 23% in worst cases!). I strongly advise removing the ATT. ACCIDENT (not that it is documented anyways). I guess this is due to some random like 1% chance of ATT. ACCIDENT, but tiger 2 make a lot of hits, (most on counterattack!), more than 1 per round; so 1% easily transfers to these absurd losses. The mec. attrition should cover this type, tanks do not just blow randomly.

About the mec.breakdown 0.6% per 10ap translates to 13% breakdown chance per 6h of active combat. I do not posses real data, but it just seems to me this 13% is meant to be per day or even week, and that the port of this rule from another game didnt account for the time scale change, so i would challenge that (but i do like its existence; just please check the exact amount). Also it needs to be applied for all vehiles.

I didnt see any ATT. problems on allied side though, i guess the m4 and greyhounds are immune to any attrition. It could be me not testing enough, but i do think there is a small issue here too.

On top on the second combat in 3 out of 10 combats i had sdkfs and nachturpen just dying without reason. Just from nothing -> DEAD. That needs checking. Thats all the data i can give as that is all the logging the game gives to us. (request: please let us export/save the combat logs as it is in some other dc variants).

Overall conclussion: I really welcome the recon; bridge and fixes changes, but at the moment the combat at least for me is an unplayable mess. I also do not like sneaky changes like the ATT. ACCIDENT which apply only to one side. (also if mec. breakdown applies only to one side it is again no good - please set some values for all vehiles; or can we set this?).

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ORIGINAL: garga3

The bug with the dead units for no reason exists on 1.01.00 too.

I did exactly the same test, only on the second attack when also some arty supports the us recon unit it is happening. On the first attempt 2 sdfks and 2 rearguard just died from death (on the first combat no casualties, just 1 retreat). 3 out of the 4 did nothing in the combat according to logs (they didnt shoot or were shot at). The 4th was pinned in combat.

Similar things on 2nd and 3d test; first combat no issue, 2nd combat a lot of strange deaths. I have suspicions that it is some artillery effect(possibly what killed them is just not displayed?).

Wanted to play the game as the new changes should make it harder for the axis to completely overrun the us, but i guess i will have to wait until this thing is fixed. Cant just watch my troops die.

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ORIGINAL: Vic

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ORIGINAL: garga3

The bug with the dead units for no reason exists on 1.01.00 too.

I did exactly the same test, only on the second attack when also some arty supports the us recon unit it is happening. On the first attempt 2 sdfks and 2 rearguard just died from death (on the first combat no casualties, just 1 retreat). 3 out of the 4 did nothing in the combat according to logs (they didnt shoot or were shot at). The 4th was pinned in combat.

Similar things on 2nd and 3d test; first combat no issue, 2nd combat a lot of strange deaths. I have suspicions that it is some artillery effect(possibly what killed them is just not displayed?).

Wanted to play the game as the new changes should make it harder for the axis to completely overrun the us, but i guess i will have to wait until this thing is fixed. Cant just watch my troops die.

I d like to verify this. But need a savegame and a sequence of steps to repeat. Could you please mail tovic@vrdesigns.net ?

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ORIGINAL: pmarvin

Excellent game, Vic, and thanks for the patch(es). However, unless I missed it in your extensive list of changes, there is still no "unmoved units" utility!

I trudged 6 turns into Wacht am Rein as the Allies, having to repeatedly survey the entire map before ending each turn to be sure I didn't overlook units with unused APs. I could ignore the problem, I suppose, but the Allies desperately need to use every chance to bring up their rear-area troops. So which ones can move and which can't?
When zoomed in the player isn't sure his viewed "box" covers every area of the huge (and beautiful, BTW) map. To avoid missing anyone I had to zoom out, then click EVERY unit to be sure it wasn't among the yet-to-be-activated units with 0 APs. Interspersed among them were units with 9 on the counter, and full potential for movement. The tedium finally got to me, and I abandoned the game.
Potential fixes include: >a "next-usable-unit" key, to cycle quickly through those with at least, say, 40 APs left, >a graphic portrayal on the 2 most zoomed-out map displays, indicating with enhancement, say, of counter margins in some manner, >a clickable list of such units.
I want to play the larger scenarios, but won't until such a utility is in place...it's a non-starter for me. Thanks for your continued attention to this, on top of the other issues you've kindly addressed.
Pete Marvin