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Units with 0 trucks - 2/9/2022 9:04:14 AM

xhoel

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This might not be a bug but its something that has me scratching my head. I was under the impression that units transferred from other TBs (not Reserve) arrive with their full truck inventory.

So on T13 I ordered the 17th SS PzGrenadier Division to move from WE to the Map. At the time this move was ordered they had 87.5% of their trucks on hand. On T15 they arrived on map but have 0 trucks left and as a result only have 6 MPs. This isnt happening to just this unit but to multiple ones.

The strangest thing is that the Axis have around 7.3k trucks in the pool. Why arent they being used to fill these units up? On T14, just before this move, there were 7.6k trucks in the pool.

T13 in WE TB:

T15 on map arrival:

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/9/2022 9:08:14 AM

Stamb

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Can you test if TBs -> reserve -> map works without losing trucks? Might save few GCs :). I have multiple panzer divisions in the west, and if they would lose all of the trucks when they get on a map... Not sure how I would continue to play

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/9/2022 1:23:37 PM

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I ran another test with another game and these are the results:

Case 1: When I tried to move the 17th SS PzGrenadier Division from the WE to Map, the transfer went ahead as expected. The unit arrived two turns later with the full truck component that it had while in the TB. Like exactly the same amount of trucks it had in the WE TB.

Case 2: When I moved them to the Reserve and then to Map, they came with more trucks somehow. But that takes 1 more turn to deploy.

No Idea why in the test, the transfer in the first case went as expected but in my PBEM game they arrived with 0 trucks?

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/9/2022 4:40:38 PM

Joel Billings

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Those 7k trucks in the pool may not be there as of the moment the unit looks to get replacements. This could all depend on the sequences. In your test in the last email, did you have a lot more trucks in the pool? There may be a fault in the logic with regards to manual transfers of units from TBs to the map. I'm just guessing though, and will need saves. Have you already sent these to me for other issues? Ideally I could use all saves from the time you ordered them east until when they arrived.

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/9/2022 5:12:13 PM

xhoel

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Could be, sent you an email.

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/10/2022 8:36:48 PM

xhoel

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Joel is there something preventing these units from receiving trucks a turn later? I had 2 of the divisions in depots with freight and on refit just so they could get trucks.

They both got 0 and still have 0 trucks. The "no trucks 10" is showing in the supply details. Doesnt make a lot of sense since on T16 the truck pool actually went up to 10k.

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/10/2022 8:44:00 PM

Joel Billings

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It's like manpower, there can be trucks in the pool at the end of the logistics phase (what you see), but none in the pool when the unit went to get some (no trucks 10 means no trucks were there when the unit went to get trucks). Especially when things get tight, there can be a lot of sloshing around of the remaining trucks with trucks going back to the pool after the replacement phase.

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RE: Units with 0 trucks - 2/13/2022 10:58:41 AM

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This is my issue as well - units arriving from NR though with no trucks units in TB have pretty much all their trucks.

I have 88,000 trucks in repair and 9000 in the pool. end May 42.

When I made static a divison on map and then changed it to mobile it immediatly got 50% of its trucks around 750 or 1500.

At the moment I do not think that a 42 offensive is possible as I cannot get trucks into my units. Why is this so complex - why not have a button on a unit " Truck Repl priority " we have refit and that works fine but no amount of refit seems to help gaining trucks - at least for me. Its a game disappointment for sure.

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