Charles2222
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[QUOTE=Mentat]Well, the casuality count should not really be of any interest here - the score is strange anyway. I have more or less annihilated the enemy forces and have suffered surprisingly low losses myself, with a lot of units down to 2 och three men but not actually destroyed.
I hold all the victory hexes save 1. Still, the AI is awarded 20,000 points to my 10,000. As one side of the map is the river Volga, the russians cannot really have made an exit of any forces. Where did those 20,000 points come from?
The sum of all my losses might have been 2,000 according to the list of units and the damage value assigned there, but not 20,000. I have noticed this effect ni other scenarios too - the AI has a lot of points that I do not understand where they come from.
Btw, Gothenburg is only some 270 km from here.... :)[/QUOTE]
If some of the objectives are 'timed' and you got most of them late in the scenario, that would help account for the difference. Of course another easy to clear up some of the difference is seeing just how much what you didn't take costs in points, but I'd assume you already account for that. You can see that if the enemy, for instance, held all objectives at the start, and the scenario is 20 turns long (are they ever longer than that? :mad: ) and those were times objectives, that even if they were just ten points apiece, that adds up pretty quick. "IF" the enemy holds 20 more 10 point times hexes than yourself at the start, and say you took them all on the 10th turn, you're already down 2000pts. on that alone (though the turns after that you'd start catching up)!!!! Seemingly cheap timed hexes, if that's what you have, cna add up 'real' quick.
The bottom line is pretty much this, though the situation can vary a bit: If you can see yourself giving up 2000 or more points, you can pretty much consider yourself as getting a marginal victory at best. Usually my experience in campaigning has been that if I don't take or hold all the objectives, irrespective of whether any of them are timed or not, you can pretty much count a major victory as lost.
Remember another thing mentat, EVERY loss counts against you. You don't get escape loss by the unit surviving (though the entire loss of the squad cost won't be weighed against you if it survives). Every single man counts against you if lost. If half of your infantry, or more, were down to 3-4 men, you didn't do as well in the loss column as you thought. I can't tell you how much points each man lost counts, but infantry are probably one point apiece, and when the squad is lost the cost of the squad on top of that I'd imagine. I'm not sure if AFVs losing a man costs against your points, but probably so, and whether they cost more to lose because of their being part of a more expensive unit, I cannot say (my guess is all men lost cost the same, except if one man lost means the destruction of a unit, such as a sniper).
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