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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/18/2004 6:01:53 PM   
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I think my troops are very tired from marching all the way from saigon months ago.

Singapore is repaired, and is now the largest most dangerous airbase I've got anywhere in the SRA. Woe betide anything bombable with an allied flag on it. The fatgiued units are resting, there are lots of replacement troops guns and tanks being generated now the the Southern Area HQ as well as a couple of little army HQs have gone to their designated bases (along with the rtoops they're assigned to repair etc.). This is all excellent news.

As for Phillipines . . . well it is taking bloody forever. decided against rushing troops out of malaya over to the PI - because then I'd only have those naval garrison units (90 or so assault points each) at every base. I'd like to be a bit more secure than that, and besides the troops in Malaya have earnt a rest, while those in the bloody phillipines could be doing a better job.

If this is still going on next week I'm going to start beheading generals and replacing them with more aggressive LCU commanders. Pity I can't promote a few of my squadron leaders to command armies - I'd have masascred the allies from manila to maroochydore by now!


Hey, it's only January 1942. I find most of what's going on is a little too fast in terms of base losses and the Japanese advance. Places are falling much faster than historically.


We are aware of this potential problem. Everything seems to go much too fast. We must be careful drawing these conclusions however as unit force comitments vary, but if some are higher in some areas resulting in faster conquests, it would stand to reason that others are less and that some delay would result. We need to progress further into playtesting to see any glaring problems.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/19/2004 8:57:09 AM   
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What's the problem? I have about 3 times the historical forces, Raver had a little less than half the historical foces (I paid the cost for reinforcing at the expense of the PI and he is paying the cost by having singapore fall so fast too).

This isn't a problem. if Singapore didn't fall this early it would have been a problem (mathematically I should have been taking singapore 6 times faster than historically!!!!!).

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 5:40:58 AM   
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What's the problem? I have about 3 times the historical forces, Raver had a little less than half the historical foces


You have a point, but modern warfare is more about supply than anything else. Singapore should not fall that fast because it has a nice big supply stockpile, while the Japanese need time to establish supply routes through the less-than-hospitable Malaysian peninsula.

Also, IMHO some of the troops defending Singapore historically were worse than useless. Depending on which troops Raver evacuated, Singapore might even be stronger!

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 2:34:38 PM   
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One of the significant reasons Singapore fell so fast was that the Japanese cut off the water supply not long after the Commonwealth retreat to the main island. Without the water, the supply stockpile was irrelevant.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 3:24:17 PM   
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Not sure if my question was seen before so here we go again........

Do Garrison units appear in captured bases automatically or due you in effect mean transfering an on-screen low value unit to garrison the base?

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 3:26:18 PM   
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ones that are not there on 7th Dec you have to ship in

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 3:28:08 PM   
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the supply stockpile was irrelevant.



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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/20/2004 5:01:28 PM   
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Rangoon still stalled. Wuchow fell though, and Raver's troops retreated into the face of my reinforcement army. A quick pincer and I might wipe out 50 thousand of his troops in one fell swoop.

Things looking good in china.

Raver bombards suva again, kills a few more troops and smacks my already damaged transport. however this time my subs were waiting and put a torp into the helena. Loved every second of it.

Things are quiet in the PI - as well as in the DEI.

Soon I will enter my second phase in the SRA (waiting on some fuel).

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/21/2004 5:59:15 AM   
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Have you sent your latest turn to me Luskan?

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/21/2004 12:04:47 PM   
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yup . . . ?

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/22/2004 3:12:51 AM   
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The troops in the PI are holding out well, and doing a bloody fantastic job against the jap. Moral is high as is supply and there is a general feeling that any further thrusts can be fought off. So far the jap seems to be happy to just conduct arty duels which is starting to cost them more kia and wias than I am receiveing.
I strongly suspect that it is a supply issue that is preventing Luskan from going on the offensive in both Manila and at Clark. If he is waiting for more troops to arrive then he is playing into my hands, as I now have built up to a fort level of 7 (from 3). And most of that work was done under fire! Manilia is also being fortified at a great rate of knots.........Luskan's stalling has been a great boon for me.


The same can also be said for Rangoon....I continue to build up my fort level while under shell fire and am still sneaking in single AKs full of supplies.........bananananana boy has no idea.

The first landing on Borneo today, but his ships copped a slapping from the local defenses...........I have a large surface TF racing in to try and catch some more transports.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/22/2004 11:35:24 AM   
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I donyt mind admitting that I bit off a bit more than I could chew. It was not possible to do simultaneous offensives in china, burma, malaya and the PI and grab bases in borneo too.

My troops landed at balikpapan - and unfortunately got wasted so badly they're the ones under seige not the other way around (I think that is going to cost me a few naval gds units!).

As for the PI, this turn my troops attacked at manila and reduced the fort size to 2. One more good attack to reduce it to 0 and then I'll have the place (and there won't be any more supplies being produced for those bastards at Clark.

Rangoon is similar to Clark really, I outnumber and outgun Raver but I just lack the firepower to push it that extra step. If I'd sent the troops that took all the bases up to Rangoon to Singapore, and then instead of sending two other divisions to singapore, but instead sent them to the PI, well, things would be different.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/22/2004 12:20:21 PM   
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But what Luskan fails to tell you all is that his beloved 13th Division in China just got the snot kicked out of it by some rag-tag Chinese troops! 1400 casualties and they are still running !

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/25/42

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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 12
TF 12 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64


218 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Heijo Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
PG Takunan Maru #10, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 111,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-17, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Ward
PC Tiger
PC Reliance
DD Litchfield
DD Schley

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Day Air attack on 2nd Division, at 43,51


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 19


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-36A Mohawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P-26A bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 46,36

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19055 troops, 265 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 21710 troops, 121 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1243 casualties reported
Guns lost 29

Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 52108 troops, 548 guns, 30 vehicles

Defending force 24341 troops, 212 guns, 18 vehicles



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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13898 troops, 198 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7533 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Rangoon

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35813 troops, 277 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 21148 troops, 181 guns, 12 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12115 troops, 180 guns, 6 vehicles

Defending force 77114 troops, 808 guns, 37 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at 46,36

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21537 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 17303 troops, 211 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Rangoon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15801 troops, 157 guns, 4 vehicles

Defending force 40903 troops, 277 guns, 114 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 831 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3111 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38450 troops, 553 guns, 5 vehicles

Defending force 75415 troops, 494 guns, 325 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/22/2004 3:31:04 PM   
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Time for a change in tactics. My troops at Rangoon are withdrawing to repair and resupply (they have a HQ with them, so this won't take too long) and await futher orders at moulmein. Obviously I'll have to try a different tactic here - like maybe send my armoured unit racing down the railway on its own past Rangoon and into the jungle bases? I have replaced all four commanders of the units at Rangoon for good measure and have replaced them with the very best generals I had available for the job. A few reinforcements are coming up the road (not many units in fighting trim left in Malaya).

However, on the whole things are still a success - as my expanded industry is now more than coping with the strain of warfare as I suck Brunei and malaya dry. At the beginning of the game I took a risk by expanding all my armament and most of my vehicle production. If I didn't capture and ship in lots of oil, this would have come to an unhappy end (as my industry woudl have demanded more and more and more). Fortunately the gamble paid off and my big convoys are getting through Raver's subs in the PI/Takao gap a whole lot better (various reasons for that, but mainly the fact I've got 200+aircraft on ASW over their heads, every now and then one of them is reported hit - never sinks, but nice to hear).

I'm in surplus for all the really important stocks of war (all my engines and the airframes I want are well in surplus). The only disappointing area in the aircraft is that It is going to be 1943 before I can upgrade all those stupid nates to Oscar IIas.

As for armaments and troops, I have a major surplus at the moment for IJA squads, SNLF squads, Base force squads and most types of guns and all types of tanks. This is due to my exceptional leadership and forward planning. High manpower bases are worth capturing early. I have drawn hundreds of these from the pool already (mostly in the last week as the units in singapore sit near multiple HQs and receive their reinforcements). Knocked out units are coming back on line and I've still got lots of supply left over. Pity the PI isn't like that yet, Manila held firm at fort level 2 - never fear however, an infusion of a dozen more inf units in the north should break Raver's back there).

There were several new CD units created in japan these last few turns and they have put a bit of a temporary drain on my CD guns, so just out of interest I have noted the only items I am at 0 stock in pool , and how many units have been used from the pool (won't disclose my build rates yet!).

FYI, the list of stocks is huge and so the list of things I'm out of is actually puny.

In Pool Now Used from Pool

5.5inch CD gun 0 316
240mm Howitzer 0 1
175mm Howitzer 0 2
75mm Field Gun 0 3
90mm Mortar 0 80
40mm AA Gun 0 16
25mm AA Gun 0 38
13mm AAMG 0 83

I've got plenty of 150mm guns and other CD guns and other sized field guns, but the 90mm mortars I have lost several of (a quick browse reveals I seem to have lost a lot of those at Clark), and the AA guns have been used in new units appearing around the place.

In china my troops chased Raver's troops into Kweilin (sp). This is off the railway so I'm not concerned, but those boys in China deserve a little rest. I'll bottle him up and let him starve. Maybe.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/23/2004 3:46:50 AM   
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Things in the PI are just not going well for Luskan...........again he tried a delibrate attck against Manila and again he was repulsed with large numbers of casulities (1200+). I think that he is going to have to re-think his plan here. He is also bogged down at Clark and there is no sign of him trying anything soon....supply must be a major issue here so I am trying to use my subs to hit any incoming suppy TFs (with little success).

Operation Shrek has just started but I doubt if that is going to come as great surprise to anyone, but you never know, I might just catch Luskan off-balance.

The lack of intel on his CVs is a tad worrying as I would really love to know where they are.

Rangoon still holds and more and more troops are coming into Burma everyday, it is going to be a long slow grind for Luskan to take this patch of jungle.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/27/42

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Sub attack at 111,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DD Litchfield
PC Tiger
PC Reliance
DD Schley
DD Ward

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Day Air attack on Sasebo 2nd SNLF, at 31,64


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3


no losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Division, at 43,51


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 19


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-36A Mohawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P-26A bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,52


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 76083 troops, 773 guns, 27 vehicles

Defending force 24435 troops, 212 guns, 18 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
1398 casualties reported
Guns lost 57
Vehicles lost 6

Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2874 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1891 troops, 25 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,39

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50319 troops, 493 guns, 144 vehicles

Defending force 20457 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 49,32

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 18240 troops, 203 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4046 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 345 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13987 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7508 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Rangoon

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35838 troops, 283 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 21675 troops, 192 guns, 12 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11960 troops, 173 guns, 6 vehicles

Defending force 73419 troops, 694 guns, 18 vehicles



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Ground combat at Rangoon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16256 troops, 169 guns, 4 vehicles

Defending force 40908 troops, 283 guns, 114 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 807 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2589 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38724 troops, 554 guns, 6 vehicles

Defending force 75401 troops, 491 guns, 322 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

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SIG INT REPORT FOR 01/28/42

16th Army is located at Davao.
Iki Fortress is located at Ikitsuki.
Hensui Construction Battalion is located at Nagasaki.
13th Ind. Brigade is located at Nanchang.
Najin Fortress is located at Changkufeng.
119th IJA Base Force is located at Bien Hoa.
Kitachishima Fortress is located at Paramushiro Jima.
Amani Ohsima Fortress is located at Amami.
Radio transmissions detected at Taiping.
4th Construction Battalion is located at Mukden.
14th Construction Battalion is located at Kagoshima.
9th Aviation Rgt is located at Mukden.
3773 men are based at Matsue.
Radio transmissions detected at Rabaul.
Radio transmissions detected at Kuantan.
5th Engineer Regiment is located at Singapore.
Radio transmissions detected at Sendai.
Radio transmissions detected at Vancouver.
8th Ind. Brigade is located at Kaigan.
55th Division is located at Rangoon.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/23/2004 7:38:45 AM   
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This time it was the Japanese troops at Tuguegarao that got slapped ! Things are NOT going well for the Banananananana boy in the PI

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/28/42

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Day Air attack on Sasebo 2nd SNLF, at 31,64


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3


no losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Division, at 43,51


Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 19


no losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-36A Mohawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P-26A bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 46th Chinese Corps, at 44,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 21

no losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2
Martin 139 x 2

no losses

no losses

Japanese Ships
TK Nissyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,71

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 30

no losses

Allied Ships
AK Benkoelen, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Enggano, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tjikarang, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 111,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
PC Tiger
DD Litchfield
DD Schley
DD Ward


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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14020 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7513 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
682 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported



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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12039 troops, 182 guns, 4 vehicles

Defending force 74699 troops, 732 guns, 23 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Rangoon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16412 troops, 171 guns, 4 vehicles

Defending force 1710 troops, 0 guns, 114 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 5


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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 818 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2749 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38950 troops, 553 guns, 6 vehicles

Defending force 75406 troops, 493 guns, 325 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/23/2004 8:27:46 AM   
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Well, my units have withdrawn from Rangoon, and are arriving at moumein more than a little disappointed. However, there are a few cvs there with them, escorting a big transport tf full of supplies and engineers and extra troops to reinforce and refit them. For the moment I will fortify Moulmein and create a bastion against Raver's future asasults from india - this will force him to come further up the coast (where my cd units, and most importantly, LBA can hammer his invasion) or through the jungle (just as bad).

As for the phillipines, my troops assaulted Clark again today and I had 2000+ casualties. However at least this time the allies had 800 or so casualties to deal with as well. Reinforcements are pouring into the PI and I'm just going to drown the bastard in troops. I am starting to sink some of his more persistant subs right off my airbases, which is nice, as the troops are getting a clearer run into laong (my develpping invasino port).

Refitting and repairing in Malaya has almost ceased as my units there are back to full strength.

In other important news, several damaged (by subs) aks had reached 0 sys damage in various repair facilities around the world (I forgot they were there, and was pleaseantly surprised to find them repaired) and they have been returned to the auto-convoy system. Several escorts, and dds have been repaired as well.

Repairs on the Haruna (damaged earlier) and another of her damaged sister BBs are progressing slowly but well. This turn marked the arrival of the last of my "extra" cd units into the positions htey will occupy for the remainder of the war. Many important bases that already had CD units recieved a 2nd cd unit (and in two cases, a third) while plenty of regoinal "hubs" were given their first CD units for the game. Raver probably wasn't going after them anyway just yet, but I feel safer knowing that they are now in position (and not going to be sunk en route).

My mop up operations in the SRA (stealing empty little bases) have ceased due to a lack of fuel at the front. This is an issue that I'll be sorting out very soon (PI are the main concern for now). I'll be taking the northern DEI soon enough now that my divisions in Malaya are back to 100%. On the whole this was a whirlwind campaign that cost me no long term casualties (and very few short term ones).

Pity about the PI - I get frustrated at the slow pace and will my attackers over the enemy walls . . . but they continue to disappoint.

In china I massacre another 1000 crazy chinese troops a turn as I chase them back to Kweilin. I'll move in there, rip Raver's last big army to shreds, and then it will just be about aplpying overwhemling force on his nuisance raids, and keeping the railways open (plenty of supply moving aronud so far however).

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/23/2004 3:21:01 PM   
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Many important bases that already had CD units recieved a 2nd cd unit (and in two cases, a third) while plenty of regoinal "hubs" were given their first CD units for the game. Raver probably wasn't going after them anyway just yet, but I feel safer knowing that they are now in position (and not going to be sunk en route).


That reminds me - are there areas where troops suffer from malaria and what not in a manner like in UV? Will you have to rotate your troops in and out of various sites to keep them from slowly (or quickly, depending upon the algorithm) degrading as was the case in UV?

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 1:00:06 AM   
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That reminds me - are there areas where troops suffer from malaria and what not in a manner like in UV? Will you have to rotate your troops in and out of various sites to keep them from slowly (or quickly, depending upon the algorithm) degrading as was the case in UV?

Thanks -

Dave Baranyi



Yes.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 4:39:49 AM   
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That reminds me - are there areas where troops suffer from malaria and what not in a manner like in UV? Will you have to rotate your troops in and out of various sites to keep them from slowly (or quickly, depending upon the algorithm) degrading as was the case in UV?

Thanks -

Dave Baranyi



Yes.


Okay - thanks. So Luskan had better be careful about where he puts those CDs for now.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 10:05:45 AM   
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Hey Luskan,

You realise that your idea of "casualties now to avoid more casualties later" strategy is now completely shot.

I can understand PI, but are your troops in China really so wrecked that you can't push them any further?

Other than that, I dont really understand why there is such sobbing and lamenting over Rangoon. It is not something I would call critical to the war effort since you have little or no chance of getting much father than it into Raver's back yard.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 10:46:57 AM   
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Hey Luskan,

You realise that your idea of "casualties now to avoid more casualties later" strategy is now completely shot.

I can understand PI, but are your troops in China really so wrecked that you can't push them any further?

Other than that, I dont really understand why there is such sobbing and lamenting over Rangoon. It is not something I would call critical to the war effort since you have little or no chance of getting much father than it into Raver's back yard.



Hey I really like this guy !

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 12:21:42 PM   
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Troops in China aren't wrecked at all - Raver's the one with no significant force left on the continent! Troops in China are just needed elsewhere (and rather than running around 100000 strong, I need to split my troops up in order to better guard the front line, as well as to better supply and refit them.

Casualties included wounded and "shocked" troops, not just dead ones, so the whole casualties now instead of later works.

Especially since my industry went from pathetic to barely coping (will cope fine soon enough I hope).

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 1:02:41 PM   
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The advantage of Rangoon is that to retake it need either troops to march through the Jungle and therefore more are needed, or amphibeous assault. Its an easily defensible spot on the map, and also provides a large base that can dominate the IO, but is outside of LRB's from Calcutta


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Hey Luskan,

You realise that your idea of "casualties now to avoid more casualties later" strategy is now completely shot.

I can understand PI, but are your troops in China really so wrecked that you can't push them any further?

Other than that, I dont really understand why there is such sobbing and lamenting over Rangoon. It is not something I would call critical to the war effort since you have little or no chance of getting much father than it into Raver's back yard.


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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/24/2004 5:06:31 PM   
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However the problem is of course that you can cut rangoon off from outside rangoon. However, my troops have pulled back - I cannot sustain the war in the PI (and keep my troops at 100%) and sacrifice troops at Rangoon. I MUST keep my force levels as high as possible.

In the last two turns I have had a powerful BB force pound Rangoon - the first time it cost me a DD severely damaged and a second a little bit bruised, but the second time I had blunted the CD battery significantly (I've destroyed 6 guns, and knocked out plenty more, as well as inflicting over 700 casualties on Raver's troops there).

Rangoon is just so tempted - Moulmein is 1 hex away, with my air cover, a fuel depot and supplies, and Rangoon is right there, full of allied troops, without air cover or any sort of defence against my bbs.

Raver's spotted one of my little moves north of darwin and has launched a little pointless bombing raid. however fortunately, none of my ships was damaged. Raver will guess my new objective soon enough. With fuel unloading all over the SRA, and troops unloading in a few places this AAR will be quiet for the next few days until all is in position.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/25/2004 7:19:11 AM   
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Could you post a screen shot of the map of the SRA area with the current position on it... or will that give away too much info?... perhaps a screen shot of this area of the map from another scenario? Thanks.

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/25/2004 9:24:48 AM   
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Screenshots...... yes please

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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/25/2004 12:10:43 PM   
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Ok here is the first SS showing Burma and the troops at Rangoon.....these are the guys that held off two Japanese divisions




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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/25/2004 12:19:43 PM   
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....and here is the situation in the SRA, note the blockade of six subs which has todate proved next to useless




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RE: Singapore and Rangoon - 5/25/2004 12:31:34 PM   
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And here the jewel in my pacific crown Clark ! You can see the number of troops as well as the supply and also fortifications. These guys have done well against the crack troops of the IJA. I would expect that they can hold out till at least late Feb, but don't rate their chances into March. All in all it's been a good fight!




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