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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/7/2004 7:58:04 AM

Luskan

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Just to further compound raver's lie my subs re-interdicted that same tf headed north east through the gg gap and to my pleasure, put a fat torp through the dd La Triomphant - not so triomphant any more eh?? She's not going to sink, but it did reveal a lot to my sub commander as bodies in the water were wearing ARMY uniforms. That is right people, it is a fast transport group.

They seem to be headed southwest at the moment (noumea?) but that might be a mistake. Of course, he did order them in a different direction as soon as he realised he'd been spotted, his bluff had been called and his lies exposed.

Perhaps they're off to begin the battle at guadacanal - considering I'm behind schedule historically (Yamato still isn't finished??) I think he might be thinking that a fight further away from my supply base wouldn't be a bad idea.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/25/42

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Sub attack at 56,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-156

Allied Ships
DD Le Triomphant, Torpedo hits 1
CL Adelaide

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Moulmein , at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10

No Allied losses

Resources hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 4
T.IVa x 6
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Taigen Maru
AP Yawata Maru
AP Niitaka Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x T.IVa launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x T.IVa launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Saipan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 14

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Zenoa Maru
AP Suwa Maru
AP Yawata Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AP Rakuto Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Taigen Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,70

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Konzan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 3
Martin 139 x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Saipan Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Meizan Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Zinzan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bali at 24,68

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Niitaka Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Meizan Maru
AP Yawata Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zinzan Maru, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 50,45

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #2
PG Kozan Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kongosan Maru
PG Kyo Maru #8
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Shoei Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Seikai Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Shinko Maru #5
PG Shosei Maru
PG Tosho Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PC Ch 20
PG Hong Kong Maru
PG Hirotama Maru
PG Heijo Maru
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Choko Maru #2
PG Choan Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Grayback

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Ground combat at Medan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7522 troops, 73 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2964 troops, 21 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
413 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Morotai

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 824 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Morotai base !!!

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/7/2004 8:44:23 AM

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The first wave of invasion tfs was big. The second wave was even bigger as it left japan, with several divisions and armoured units aboard.

This would be the third big invasion wave of thousands upon thousands of new (and old but rested and refitted) troops. I've got base forces, literally dozens of garrison units for the myriad of bases in the SRA, about a hundred (no ****) little eng units each with a seperate destination. Many of these huge tfs are going to make several stops ((dump troops at base a, pick up suplpy at base b, unload at c, pickup resources at c and go off to d etc.)).

Just so you know, this was taken a few turns ago (so Raver's subs won't be able to find them). Could there be an invasion tf in there headed for soerbaja? How about Chandpur or Anderson Is? Perhaps even *gasp* darwin or PM?????????????

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/7/2004 11:19:09 AM

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Raver seemed to have whacked quite a few AP's in the last report posting.

Has that slowed things down much?

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/7/2004 5:11:34 PM

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And he whacks more this turn. However he has only sunk 1 - the bombs they're getting hit with are little, and I've got ports to repair flt damage at nearby (an SRA full of them in fact), and my newly expanded repair ports are VERY efficient at the moment as I have a cache system where all damaged ships go to the one port, and from there, they bide their time until it is their turn to move to the home island repair ports - I restrict each home island repair port to just 1 damaged ship, which speeds up repairs quite a bit. My damaged bbs from the early game, Fuso, Yamashiro and Ise are all back online almost at 0 sys (under 5). I've received another few new ships, and a few new experienced squadrons of naval aircraft which is handy.

I've taken bali, set up a big supply base, moved in the base force, added some fighters and most importantly, some search aircraft (which are the whole reason for taking the place). With the extreme long range aircraft at singapore searching left right and centre, and those at bali, I hope to be able to see any of Raver's forces lurking behind java waiting to bush whack invasion forces. I have 3 CV divisions standing by to deal with just such an ambush (although i've pulled them back from the doorstep a bit lately just in case).

My 4th cv division has been tasked with operation "fudge" while I have just received Junyo AND Hiyo (well ahead of schedule - although very variable reinforcement does seem to be working against me at the moment, as Yamato is still 150 days off!) and they will form my 5th cv division. Unfortunately some of the divisions are bigger than others (my little cv division is big enough to be its own division, the 3rd, but the crappy pilots aboard mean that they aren't able to go head to head with Raver's cvs alone).

I accelerated all of the cvs in my ship buliding program this turn. I also welcomed no less than 2 new LARGE divisions and dozens of smaller units around the map. The best part was that I get 2 big inf units in manchuko, and both large divisions for burma. Have been transferring troops around my chinese front lines and am finally happy that all the size 9 forts are garrisoned well enough to be impregnable (basically it would take 9 times the asasult firepower and that is . . . well Raver can only raise 1 or 2 armies that big, and he'd have to seriously condense those chinese to do it etc). This has left me with a pair of armies surplus. The first is to be a lightning strike force, which I have tasked a mission and hopefully I have a shot at success in spite of the late date.

The second has been dubbed my strategic reserve, and although it is only 3 divisions and 3 arm units big, I'm hoping the spreading of AA and ARTY guns along my front (manchuko and korea didn't need them thats for sure!) in all those forts will balance my lack of a decent reserve. As long as Raver's chinese hoard remains unspotted however, I cannot bring myself to transfer these three divisions to the solomons (I've sent a few smaller units out there in the last few turns, added 1 proper assault INF unit (so a mixed regiment or 1/3rd of a division) to most of my island bases in case Raver gets tough. I hope to steal the entirety of the solomons before he can get there to stop me.

Enjoy the pic - the score means nothing at this point. The truth is that even as I steal bases left right and centre, Raver's base point total will increase as time goes on and counteract this greatly. I expect my 4 to 1 ratio will be down to about 2 to 1 by the end of the year. I have not caused enough damage (especially in china) or sunk enough big ticket ships of Raver's to be in the running for autovictory. That is, unless he fights a 6 usn cvs vs every jap cv on the oob battle and looses. Or perhaps 3 RN bbs would tip the scores a bit?

Enjoy.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/7/2004 7:34:06 PM

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Or you could start bombing industry in OZ or try to take a few cities in NZ.... that would get you some points.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 5:36:33 AM

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How many points, SunDevil? The AI has started bombing Darwin and Broome in my game, but it so far has bombed only airfields, not industry. I'm rooting for it to bomb industry so I can see what kind of VPs result!

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 6:46:49 AM

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Forget bombing the industry. I'm wanting to capture it.

Ravers masterful start in china has kept SO many divisions tied up there that if he'd palyed it like he has previously (and like all my other allied opponents I might add!) I'd have the DEI already.

I've lost that fast transport group of his, I think htey ran back to Oz. Rabaul is too big for them to take on now.

In Burma things are looking up as I further increase my presence there by a division and a few more aux land units (arty, eng). I can't commit to an offensive there just yet however - I need to know if there are 200000 chinese troops waiting for me on the other side of the river. They'd be tired, because its a helluva long march, and they would have had to use a crappy little trail and do it on 0 supplies (and chaing Kai Shek was never one to let his troops leave china but anyway). If they ARE there, they are the best supplied chinese troops in the game atm, being so much closer to india.

If I can find them, then suddenly I will ahve enough intel to makea decision on where to attack. If I can't, sooner or later I'm just going to have to take the plunge. If Raver is still sitting behind the rivers with allied and chinese troops come 6/43, that have been preparinga nd resting all that time . . . well lets just say that I need that river as a defensive obstacle more than he does.

In the DEI my spotter planes out of bali spot nothing - absolutely nothing. I've got a CV division off chasing down a hunch of mine, another on defensive station, and the rest of those cv groups are all poised to attack as soon as Raver shows his hand in the DEI.

many many troops are now resting and refitting at forward bases after their recent struggles in the P.I. Kendari and Rabaul are literally bursting with supplies and troops and the disorder is only going to get worse. I have operation "Splatter" scheduled for next month, depending on how my present ops go.

Pahse 1 of the DEI invasion has hit a snag. Lots of allied troops at Medang - and although I outnumber them, my mixed inf unit there was caught off guard. I lsot a few troops and it wasn't pretty. They're settling in for a shoving match, but hopefully within a few days I'll be back on track, having taken medang and Kuala and stranded those allied troops on the interior of Sumatra with no escape and no supply (once I cut the trail base off on the road to Teklacaboang (or whatever the hell its called).

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 12:05:11 PM

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Well, my little scouting operation found NO american CVs. NONE! it did find a couple of worthless allied transports and didn't both to sink them and avoided detection completely - although it performed a 3 turn sweep of the area I expected to find enemy cv activity.

As a result I have given orders - to redeploy my waiting cv divisions in a hurry. With one area of the map ruled out for Raver's cvs I am suddenly very thankful that I sent in the scouts and realised I was out of position. This might have just saved me the war (but I can't tell you where the mission was yet, but lets just say that CS ships and little cvs can spread out to search a very wide front and cover a lot of ground in 3 turns).

In other news there is a titanic air battle over Rangoon. P.Hori gains his 7th kill to become the 5th best pilot on my roster kill wise. First the blenheims came in alone and got spanked, and then the tomahawks showed up and claimed 5 kills. They shot down 2 planes, and fortunately I only lost 1 pilot it appears.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/29/42

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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 23
SB-2c x 18

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 damaged

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
7 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
5 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 30

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 28 destroyed, 8 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 9
Martin 139 x 14

No Allied losses

Oil hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,70

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Yawata Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 10 destroyed

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Ground combat at Kuala

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1510 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 740 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 4:13:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: Luskan

(and chaing Kai Shek was never one to let his troops leave china but anyway).

Actually, not true. General Chenault was given command of what I think (but could not confirm) were two Chinese Army corps in a unit called the CAI (the Chinese Army in India). They fought mostly around the Ledo and in northern Burma.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 5:12:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Thayne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Luskan

(and chaing Kai Shek was never one to let his troops leave china but anyway).

Actually, not true. General Chenault was given command of what I think (but could not confirm) were two Chinese Army corps in a unit called the CAI (the Chinese Army in India). They fought mostly around the Ledo and in northern Burma.

That would be General Stilwell (Vinegar Joe) that commanded two Chinese "Armies" (Chinese Army = Division) in Burma. Gen. Chennault commanded first the AVG then the USAAF in the CBI.

PS. Enjoying your AAR Thayne very much.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/8/2004 6:32:09 PM

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and "command" was a word you had to use somewhat with tongue and cheek. Often Stillwell couldn't get them to do much of anything because the Chinese generals would refuse to play along unless Chiang gave the nod first. Created quite a few political fallouts.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/9/2004 7:07:28 AM

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Well I am having no trouble with my Chinese units in Burma, solong as they have a bowl of rice they are happy as larry. Luskan as you have all seen, has been somewhat foolish in sending unescorted APs to the DEI and have been gining my bomber crews lots of experience in bombing ships at sea. They are now ready for the first string if and when Luskan sends them forward.

In what has been described as a blaack day within the RAF 12 Blenheim IV were shot down over Rangoon when their fighter escort failed to show. Not since the loss of 18 Fairly Battles over France in '40 has the RAF been slapped in the face so hard. RAF high command in the far east are now looking at their options regarding this bomber type and it is expected that they shall be withdrawn and replaced with Wellingtons.

In the meantime, my uber carrier battle group is currently stalking a jap TF which is yet to understand just how close it is sailing towards it's doom. Luck, for once, has been on the Allies side and so far they have not been spotted. It is currently sailing on a equal course of south by south east. I just have to try and sus out if it is a trap or just a stupid jap mistake.

For months now I have been putting together my plans for the defense of the DEI....and as Luskan has found out at Medan (which cost Luskan around 1000 killed and wounded) the DEI is not going to be what he thinks it is.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/9/2004 7:45:34 AM

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Fortunately my little scouting trip is over, and my cvs are all returning to new stations. Hopefully I'll be able to exploit Raver's putting all his eggs in the one place - even if it starts costing me a few ships.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/9/2004 2:56:57 PM

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The Dutch air units have now for the last three or four turns been blasting Palembang's oil and scoring 2 oil hits per turn.............the Dutch airfarce rules the skies over the DEI !

The RAF, still smarting from the bitch-slapping in Burma has now switch targets.............lets see if that helps.

For the last two months the Aussie coast has had 6 large minelayers going from port to port laying mines in the expectation that Luskan will come waltzing in and "BooM !".

On the downside Luskan's ASW surface units are getting very good. I have lost more subs in the last four weeks to ASW that nearly in the whole war. Mind you Luskans thought on what a ASW TF should consist of is lumping in all the PGs MSWs and PCs that he can find till the size of the TF is nearing the 25 ship limit, then send two of these monster uber ASW TFs after the subs..........bugger him but it is starting to work.

I guess that I have less than two to four turns to complete my bolstering of the DEI before the storm hits.........oh boy is Luskan going to get slapped!

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/9/2004 5:36:35 PM

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Fortunately, I have a plan. More than that, I have a large number of units coming off the refit register. My plan for sumatra is rolling forward, and although I nearly wet myself with 9 measly beauforts claimed a torp hit on kongo, in the surface combat that afternoon where kongo hnuted down a lone allied ak trying to sneak supplies into the starving allied troops at akyab, she wasn't even smoking.

I'll posta screenie since Raver doesn't believe me. Kongo is unhamred, although sys damage is starting to mount. Kongo Haruna and Nagato have been in constant sue and the wear and tear is going to need some fixing, fortunately, Ise, Hyuga, Yamashiro and Kirishima and Hiei are all back to a nice round 0 for sys damage - which is also what almost all (bar 1 stubborn one at 5 sys) my fleet cvs were at a few weeks ago when they moved onto station. No big thunderstorms have got them yet thankfully.

I'll have to post what I think at this stage of the game a bit further down the track. I think I've lost momentum, but I think Raver has been impatient to take the initiative and is deluding himself in the DEI.

A few facts as I see them however - I'll admit that the worm has started to turn, here are the principle reasons why:

1. My failure to move into the SRA fast enough (I really should have done a better turn 1, and rather than waste time with palces like rabaul I should have been storming the DEI by week 2).

2. China. I've got lots of extra resources and oil and industry in china now, and the entire railway line and northern road network. Unfortunately I only wasted about 70k of Ravers troops and he has more than replaced that by now - RAver's early strategy here is a gem and I'd urge you allied players to swallow your pride and follow suit. By 44 those yellow units are going to be so prepared (and therefore experienced. Every turn your units spend at 100% prepped for a future objective they roll to see if their experience improves). China has been a failure, with at least 3 southern area army divisions stuck there whent hey should be in Oz marauding around the east coast or somewhere.

3. Burma was a result of my slowness in Malaya, PI and of course, China. I know a few tricks now that would have sped these earlier conquests up. Mainly preparation on turn 1. Even so, I think I might still be able to drive through Burma's defences once the DEI is dealt with.

Onto the good reasons - things in my favour lately.

1. I've repaired the oil hits faster than he's made them at palembang, and rangoon. Lots of eng units that haven'y had any losses.

2. Dutch rule the DEI skies because . . . they are the only ones in it at present, save over bali (and search aircraft. I KNOW he can't resist the lure of a good invasion tf).

3. My economy is growing and has a nice surplus at the moment. This won't last, but for the next 6 months at least, I've got no pressing economic reason to rush the DEI conquest. I'm going to do it carefully and right - like Mogami would do it, with all units completely prepared and all contingencies prepared for. Especially Raver's cvs showing up.

4. My 2nd scouting operation went completely unnoticed. agin, I'll have to post where it was later but I've now definitely ruled two large areas of the map out for Raver's cv locations. Leaves me with fewer options to cover - especially since a couple of them are more likely than others.

5. My armies, thanks to my careful attention to my economy are at 100%, except for the units in sumatra, especially the mixed brigade at Madang that has copped it a few turns running. China's are all 100%, Burmas, PI, Malaya's, they're all 100% strength and my pools for industry are refilling nicely.

6. My pilots experience, for the most part is very good still. I ahve a couple of dud squadrons, but soon as I get rid of those nates . . .

7. I've shown the RN as inferior surface combatants to date. It must irk Raver to have all those combat ships and not be able to use them while the betties fly. The sunk ships list is all in my favour (except the DEI).

8. I've lost very few transports, although I do have about 50 damaged ones (most hit recently in the bali operation). Those damaged transports are going to be slow to repair because I'm keeping the bigger repair ports for 1 damaged capitol ship each sort of thing.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/9/2004 5:47:12 PM

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Luskan,

I was under the impression that engineers do not help with the repairs or speed repairs up of HI/Oil/res.

Do engineer units help speed up the repairs of these items? Please say yes. I have a ton of available engineers to repair Palembang that was hard hit by my invasion.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/10/2004 9:10:42 AM

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The Allies are have now prepared them selves for the coming battle of the DEI. Luskan has to come and come soon. The BIGGEST problem that is causing me constant heartburn is the lack of airfarce base units in Australia. Time and time again, I have squadrons and wings of aircraft based in southern Oz that are only at 50% operational strength because of a lack of base units. Reinforcements from the US are due in any day now.

In China I have started to patrol, and am pushing small units close to the Japanese lines.........I expect Luskan to respond soon as he cannot allow my troops to sit there and get free info on troops and unit sizes. My plan in China has worked like a charm..........retreat deep into the heartland of China with as much of my forces intact as possible. As Luskan has already stated, he has been forced to keep troops there that would have been better used elsewhere. Given another 12 to 18 months and I can start thinking about a general offensive, even sooner if Luskan slips up.

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Post #: 467

RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/10/2004 3:37:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

The Allies are have now prepared them selves for the coming battle of the DEI. Luskan has to come and come soon.

Why? I have my economy up and running, although it seems in recent times I've started to empty the pool of replacement guns (especially the 40mm aa gun) but that will refill slowly. As I said the only time factor I've got to worry about is the rate of reinforcement - the longer i wait the more units Raver will have to throw back at me. Soon? Not really.

Raver doesn't do things by half measures ladies and gents. In UV he decided to invade townesville in 11/42. He literally sent every ship and every inf unit in the jap oob in to arrive on the same date. Needless to say I spanked him but I'm hoping that thoroughness has continued here. I'm hoping that the DEI is positively PACKED with allied troops. That way there are lots of places on the map that aren't packed with allied troops. I've got my eye on a few possible possessions for operation splatter. I'm going to have to do some careful scouting however. Nothing worse for the jap player than telegraphing your intentions. Just asking to get sunk.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raverdave
In China I have started to patrol, and am pushing small units close to the Japanese lines.........I expect Luskan to respond soon as he cannot allow my troops to sit there and get free info on troops and unit sizes. My plan in China has worked like a charm..........retreat deep into the heartland of China with as much of my forces intact as possible.

Well Raver has moved 1 unit into hexes beside each of my bases to get some intel. But he doesn't really expect me to send units out of my massive forts to fight fair does he? Just to drive those little chinese units off? Gawd no. I'd send a division out, they woiuld beat the chinese division and then find 50 more 1 hex away advancing down on them.

I would much prefer that Raver reveals his spearheads first (I'm predicting Hanoi and Sian but that is just because they're obvious targets - although any chinese army at hanoi runs the risk of being flanked but anyway) in 12 or 18 months. That way the troops he CANT see, the dozens of divisions and regiments etc. behind my lines and out of sight can move lightning quick up and down my railawy line to the threatened part of the line. About the only place I can't reinforce to untakable levels is burma! Hoping raver's chinese units there are in the area of 10-15 divisions (chinese so 1 good jap division = 2 chinese ones). I could handle them and the allied armoured units, and the 3 or 4 real uk divisions Raver must have by now. I'm hoping to get onto the front foot against them in fact as soona s the DEI is taken care of (however if I step on 50 chinese divisions waiting for me at Pagan or anywhere else in burma for that matter I've got no compunction about loosing face, I'll be withdrawing damned fast).

I toyed with the idea of leaving Kweilin really really weak and empty, and having 6 jap divisions with 100 prep points for the place sitting 1 hex away, but decided that I'd prefer not to take the risk of loosing the place before I could get those divisions in.

I'd say that Raver could break my line in 2 or 3 places - but not all at once. Size 9 forts mean he will need all the eng he can get - and the chinese don't really have any. They've only got them attached to divisions in very small numbers. offensively, they aren't great those chinese divisions.

I've been drafting about 2 operations ahead of the present this whole game (ie. The present operation is the DEI, and after that operation splatter, and after that is the operation I'm thinking about right now). I've designed a few little things in burma and in the pacific - nothing special to be honest and probably not worth code names. Raver probably wouldn't notice.

However I've been tempted more than once by Operation Field Goal where I behead Field Marshals and kick their heads through the posts! Just kidding. Operation Field Goal . . . well I've considered it 4 times seriously throughout the course of this game. 4 times I've decided that the expected casaulties of such an operation outweigh the benefits.

Like stealing Suva in that previous game - it was of fright/nuisance value to Raver only - once he arrived to retake the place to find it empty . . . Well I'd wasted his time, and knew where I could find some of his transports if I really wanted to try and sink them (too far away anyway). Operation Field Goal is that daring, only once I strike . . . I'll be needing troops to stay and die there to be of any use.

Xargun - when I guessed what Operation Go-For-Broke was (and got it wrong), well that is what I'm considering (not your idea, mine!).

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 8:18:51 AM

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Things were quiet for too long, so Raver's auto-admiral decided to committ mass suicide.

Seriously though I don't know what the hell he was thinking this turn. First, about 20 AKs appear last turn about 9 hexes out of kwajalein. I think - they're bait - trying to lure my cvs out of position. I ignore them. This turn, they're 4 hexes away or so and my betties at kwajalein (although they're the less experienced ones, and had a bad tendency to all want to sink the same ship - if htat ship was already sunk my sulking pilots would return home with their torps aboard) they skragged about 3 or 4 and damaged a few more. If it was bait -nice try but I know where my cvs are needed!

Then on the far side of Sumatra, a bunch of DDs escorting the Neosho (of UV fame) no doubt a replenishment tf for some allied CVs thought that just because they were on the far side of sumatra they weren't going to get bombed from Singapore about 5 hexes away. Unfortunately I ahd lots of my better level bomber squadrons standing down, and the sallies can't hit a ship at 15000 ft, however we at least put a hole in the Neosho - and so she'll be a neo-sho(w) (heh . . . *sigh*).

I've put all my good level bombers (saving my elite betties - didn't awnt them going in at 200 feet over batavia harbour) back onto naval attack, and I've shipped in a small unit of betties to kwajalein (just the 9 planes) but their exp is in the 90s so once the fatigue wears off I might be able to get some transports limping home. Might even divert a little cv unit for some training.

The rest of the theatre is rpetty quiet. Bali builds up slowly and is almost at the point that I can house my level bombers in there. In Burma I unloaded several new units at Rangoon and the transports are already racing back south not having been spotted, and in China two fresh INF units join the ranks of my reserve force. In Sumatra things at Madang are still a stalemate (Raver's loving that) and I'll be housing some planes at Palembang fairly soon too.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/03/42

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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 24
SB-2c x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 9
Martin 139 x 14

No Allied losses

Oil hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,84

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Lancaster

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,84

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Admiral Y. Williams, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Katrina Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK City of Elwood
AK Hawaiian, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,84

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G4M1 Betty x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Knoxville City
AK Admiral Y. Williams, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK City of Elwood, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Trento

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Pagai Island at 17,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 42
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
Ki-21 Sally x 45
Ki-48 Lily x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Vendetta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nizam
DD Napier
AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nestor

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,84

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Dorothy Philips, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Idaho, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mapele
AK Knoxville City
AK Cynthia Olson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Charles McCormick, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,84

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G4M1 Betty x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Admiral Y. Williams, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK City of Elwood, on fire, heavy damage
AK Katrina Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 9:18:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Luskan

... a bunch of DDs escorting the Neosho (of UV fame)...

And of RL Pearl Harbor, she was the fleet oiler they couldn't hit that would have blown up on Battleship Row, IIRC.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 2:07:55 PM

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Bugger ! And double bugger! I don't run auto convoys, and so only have myself to blame for the slaughter of those AKs south of kwajalein ! It was simply that I told them to load XXXX and head for XXXX with out checking their track. Stupid stupid mistake.

The same thing happened of West of Sumatra, I was simply sending some RAN Dog Dogs home to Oz and the next thing I know the sky is BLACK with Sallys, and Bettys

Not only did I loose the Neosho but also HMAS Vendetta

Not a good way to loose ships dear reader.

Idiot Luskan has just given me the upper hand in China by NOT contesting my Bde strength recon patrols. And if bananana boy fails to understand what he is doing wrong, well I am not going to be the one to enlighten him. Maybe someone else who reads this may have pity on him and explain the error of his ways.

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Post #: 471

RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 3:37:59 PM

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Your recon is only 1 hex. There are lots of hexes that your strung out units CANT SEE!! (Yes even the ones scanning my northern frontier from behind the lines).

China is stronger than ever, and with lots of force multipliers from size 9 forts, I've got nothing to worry about. The only problem here is that I DO have so many excellent troops in china. They'd be much better used elsewhere (in my other jap games after whooping the chinese back as far as Raver has withdrawn now, I can take 50% of the troops in china or almost that many and reassign them elsewhere. Makes Burma heaps easier having 3 extra divisions etc).

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Post #: 472

RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 4:06:06 PM

Raverdave

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The fact that I have forced Luskan to keep so many divisions in China means that I have won not just on that front but also in Burma as well.

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Post #: 473

RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 4:12:53 PM

Luskan

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I just couldn't resist. I had not 1 but 2 of my cv divisions in the area, and I had embarked the 2nd string squadrons aboard them (1 zero squadron was down to 68 exp on average - that is actually lwoer than the standard of my pilot pool atm) and sent them out to do a little training. Said zero squadron got lots of bomb hits and came back above 70 exp from one day of heavy bombing without opposition. I will return these pilots to their bases for more training (lots of that going on around the globe! If ever I repalce all the nates with real planes then Raver will have something to worry about!) and will remembark the elite KB pilots as my cvs return to their allotted stations. I'm sure when Raver counts the aircraft involved he'll realise that there only about 40% of my cv strength involved in these raids.

Very happy with the training results, as well as the sinking heaps of Raver's transports. The morale of the story: the auto-convoy admiral is smarter than Raver. Not surprising really.

Raver's chinese troops ahve crept back onto the railway line. This i won't abide so I'll be hurting them soon.

Also, recon results at akyab reveal only 600 armoured vehicles whereas before there were over a thousand. Now I didn't wipe 400 tanks out from bombardments (only about half that at most) so I think Raver has realised what a supply drain akyab is, and the trails out take forever. If he's smart, he's been shipping them north to chandpur to drive around to assume defensive positions behind the river.

I bombarded andaman island this turn just to see if there was anything there - thought Raver might have been reconning me from there or something. Looks empty though. Did lots of damage to an empty facility. Kongo says hi ;)

Also, my intel has said several turns now that there is something going on at Pago Pago. Other than people on pogo sticks. Probably Raver's halfway between Oz and US supply base? Maybe?

His intel is no doubt telling him all sorts of brilliant information about my troop placements behind the lines in burma and china.

Enjoy the CR. Raver probably ahs so many transports his blunder at Kwaj. really didn't hurt him that much but I can hope.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/05/42

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TF 7 troops unloading over beach at Medan, 20,45

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 37,56

Japanese Ships
TK Tonan Maru #2
MSW Toshi Maru #5
MSW Toshi Maru #8
PC Nichi Maru #1
TK Chiyoda Maru

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

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Sub attack at 53,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
AP Van Neck
DD Drayton
DD Whipple
CA Pensacola

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TF 7 troops unloading over beach at Medan, 20,45

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Sub attack at 46,46

Japanese Ships
AK Kenyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Choun Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Gudgeon

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 6

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lanchow , at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 23
SB-2c x 12

No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 14

No Allied losses

Oil hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 10

No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,91

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Exmoor, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Lena Luckenbach
AK Steel Mariner, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
B5N Kate x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Lewis Luckenbach, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Steel Worker, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Hamakua, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Steel Scientist, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Lancaster, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Lancaster, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Lillian Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1
AK Steel Mariner, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
D3A Val x 36
B5N Kate x 45

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Knoxville City, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Barbara Olson, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
AK Columbian, Bomb hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mapele, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Cold Brook, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Trento, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Coast Trader, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Columbian, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Mapele, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
D3A Val x 60
B5N Kate x 97

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Hamakua, Bomb hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lillian Luckenbach, Bomb hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mathew Luckenbach, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Rainbow, Bomb hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lancaster, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lena Luckenbach, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
6 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
5 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 86,82

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G4M1 Betty x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK City of Elwood, heavy damage
AK Katrina Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Trento, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,92

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Lewis Luckenbach, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Steel Worker, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Andaman Island, at 23,34

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
CL Tenryu
CL Natori
CL Tatsuta
CL Oi
CA Kumano
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
CA Chokai
CA Atago
CL Tama
CA Suzuya

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 51
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 10

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Post #: 474

RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/11/2004 5:07:31 PM

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Dear family Luckenbach,
we are very sorry to tell you, that four of your family members were attacked and severly hit by the infamous japanese forces while shipping medicine and toys for those poor little orphans in Australia.
As a result of this day, the allied command will take care never to assign so many family members to a single operation to avoid such grieve as done to your family in the future ...

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ORIGINAL: Luskan
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AK Lewis Luckenbach, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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AK Lillian Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1
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AK Lillian Luckenbach, Bomb hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
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AK Lena Luckenbach, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
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AK Katrina Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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AK Lewis Luckenbach, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/12/2004 12:54:55 PM

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0405421700Z

***Top Secret***

From CINCPAC.

Dis.
ABDA
NTH PAC HQ
CEN PAC HQ
STH PAC HQ
FEHQ
AUST HQ
NZ HQ

Warning Order> Warning Order>

All Theater Cmdrs are to make way to CINCPAC HQ Pearl Harbour NLT 1708042330. STOP>

All current operations to hold till 0409041800. STOP> No new operations are permitted. STOP> CINCPAC wishes to meet with all on issues of strategic planning. STOP> Meeting is at martial level only. STOP>

End.>

Thats right people, I am heading off to Hawaii as of Monday for a three week holid....er consult with my theater commanders. It is a tough job being the CINC of all the nations of the western world, but looks like it does have some perks. This AAR shall continue up until my departure on Tuesday morning (last posting will be on Monday night).

In the mean time I am sure that Luskan will be able to play with himself.....oh, that didn't come out right.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/12/2004 3:24:21 PM

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Dont you just hate these high level conferences to stamp out strategy

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/12/2004 8:33:08 PM

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A three week vacation... er conference? WTF is that?

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/13/2004 4:59:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

A three week vacation... er conference? WTF is that?

Here in the land of Oz we get 4 weeks annual leave each year, and after 15 years at the same company we get 3 months long service leave on top of the that years 4 weeks.

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RE: Liar liar pants on bloody fire. - 8/13/2004 7:27:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

A three week vacation... er conference? WTF is that?

Here in the land of Oz we get 4 weeks annual leave each year, and after 15 years at the same company we get 3 months long service leave on top of the that years 4 weeks.

Enjoy it. Here in the US we only average 2 weeks per year. A lot are lucky to get even 1 week. A 3 week vacation is unheard of unless you are unemployed.

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