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Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 8:46:20 AM   
Xargun

 

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Status: offline 		Well guys here we go. Rob (rroberson) and Eric (xargun) have decided to have some fun and let you all join in on our glorious conquests and angonizing defeates - not to mention our humorous mistakes.

We are playing with the following rules:

Non-historic First turn (Japan only)
December 7th Surprise On
Japanese Sub Ops Off
Allied Damage Control Off
No Port attacks on turn 1 (Except PH)
Only landings in Malaya and the Philippine Islands permitted on turn 1 (except Guam and Wake)
Also, No refuelling / resupplying from Capital Ships in a port size less than 3 without an AO / AE present
Everything else goes - if the game allows it - its permitted

There were several air strikes in china (and in Malaya), but since most of them were worthless I editted them out

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41
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Naval Gun Fire at Wake Island (82,63) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

37 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AK Kongo Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage * These Marines are awake
DD Hayate, Shell hits 1
DD Mochizuki
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Sub attack at 43,49 * First attack of the War

Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Torpedo hits 1 * Barely scratched her!
PG Myoken Maru
PG Kiso Maru
CL Kuma

Allied Ships
SS S-36

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
G3M Nell x 99

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 16 destroyed, 4 damaged
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 87
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 47
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-35A x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 14 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-35A: 12 destroyed, 14 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 15 destroyed, 8 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 10 damaged
B-17C Fortress: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 131

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 88
D3A Val x 135
B5N Kate x 143

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
P-26A x 8
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
D3A Val: 14 destroyed, 43 damaged
B5N Kate: 31 destroyed, 35 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged
P-26A: 12 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 32 destroyed, 25 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 55 destroyed, 42 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 22 destroyed, 32 damaged
PBY Catalina: 37 destroyed, 41 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged
A-20B Boston: 13 destroyed, 14 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 14 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied Ships * Got some good torpedo hits, but only 1 BB confirmed sunk – but I
believe its more like 5 BB – time will tell
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 12, on fire
MSW Grebe, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage * SUNK !!
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1
AK Laida, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 52
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 169

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
15 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
26 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
22 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
12 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
17 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
25 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
26 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,60 * Off the coast of Mindanao

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 21

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships * Somehow I avoided any damage from air strikes in Malaya – this
was the biggest attack
DD Shinonome
DD Amagiri
CL Sendai
DD Murakumo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
CL Jintsu
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied ground losses:
356 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 49
Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 14
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66

Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba

Allied Ships
MSW Penguin, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Kuantan, at 24,47

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Amagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Asagiri
DD Ayanami
DD Shikinami
DD Uranami
DD Murakumo
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Fubuki
CL Sendai

Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 26
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 13
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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
DD Maikaze
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied ground losses:
341 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 22
Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 9
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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 42,59

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
DD Kuretake
DD Wakatake
DD Yukaze
DD Yakaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Mikazuki
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Nagato

Allied Ships
AK Magallanes, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
AK Luzon, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 9
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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63

108 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 2
DD Mutsuki
AP Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
247 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66

Japanese ground losses:
384 casualties reported
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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Laoag, 45,49

Japanese ground losses:
241 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45

26 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
531 casualties reported
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49

Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Lingayen, 44,50

Japanese ground losses:
200 casualties reported
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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 44,55

Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported

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TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Kuantan, 24,47, firing at TF 106
TF 106 troops unloading over beach at Kuantan, 24,47

17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
779 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Davao, 41,61, firing at TF 153
TF 153 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 41,61

112 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Toroshima Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage * Hurt bad
AP Gyoko Maru, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
589 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20910 troops, 251 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7457 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4597 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 9250 troops, 79 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Kuantan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2915 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 9897 troops, 97 guns, 0 vehicles
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Ground combat at Davao

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2953 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 4616 troops, 48 guns, 18 vehicles
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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1405 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1526 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Batan Island * The first Enemy base falls

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1766 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 502 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 156 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1185 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1301 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1845 troops, 37 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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RE: Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 9:02:22 AM   
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edit: wake looks like a toughie..

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RE: Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 3:37:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, looks like a good first turn although 5 bbs at cagayan to floor the b17s seems a little excessive perhaps?

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RE: Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 4:23:54 PM   
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Well, looks like a good first turn although 5 bbs at cagayan to floor the b17s seems a little excessive perhaps?


Depends on how you look at it. A bunch of dead B-17's is worth any price when they are not bombing your ships.

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RE: Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 5:51:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Luskan

Well, looks like a good first turn although 5 bbs at cagayan to floor the b17s seems a little excessive perhaps?


Perhaps, but with Ryujo nearby and with light escort I didn't want to take any chances, plus all I knew was that there were B-17s there - didn't know what else. This early in the game I'd rather be cautious with my carriers than reckless. But that BB TF has very little to stop it in the area, so it just might cruise around and bombard the hell out of enemy bases for a while

Xargun

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RE: Newbie AAR - 6/29/2004 8:48:27 PM   
Xargun

 

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Status: offline 		Well since I'm killing time waiting for Rob to send back his Turn 2 I thought I would share some of my plans for Turn 3...

Nothing tactical, Turn 3 is the turn I plan on looking long term at the game. Over the next few turns 3-6 most of my early expansion will be completed - expanded size 1-2 ship yards and such, and I will take a long hard look at the future of Japanese production. I plan on streamlining 2 major categories - aircraft and ship building.

Ship Building:
According to the list I will keep producing ships for another 1500+ days and frankly I plan on winning by then so I am going to cut back on my late war production of ships (useless ones at least) and speed up the production of what I deem important ships - Carriers, Escorts and Cargo ships. I plan on using the extra capacity I have built (and saved from halting production) to speed up the arrival of certain key ships. I have no idea if this will make any difference, but instead of waiting 2 years for a ship, I could cut it down to 1 year - might give me a better chance in 43.

Aircraft:
I plan on halting and converting factories producing useless planes (in my opinion) into producing more useful ones and then slowly upgrade my air units. Top of the list will be Zeros and Bettys, with others mixed in as appropriate. I think I will check the stockpiles and convert engines or aircraft factories over first and wait til they are running smoothly before I go for the other just so I don't suck up all my supply, which (Thanks to Luskan & Raverdave's AAR) I am already shipping to forward bases for use in Malaya and PI - 2 biggest fights in the SRA.

I am also still busy sending TKs & AKs to all the stupid bases with an abundance of Supplies and Fuel to load up the surplus and bring it home. There is no need for the Kuril Island bases to have 1000 fuel and 8000 supplies, when there is no one there - that supply is better served elsewhere. Also, most of the chinese (and Korean) ports have a large surplus of fuel (40,000+ units) which is pointless as except from the starting locations, I don't plan on running major fleet ops from those ports. So its a matter of time before I get the extra fuel and supplies where I can / will use them.

All in all, my first 2 turns have been more logistics management than anything else. I only added a couple of invasions to turn 1 and I think I only have 1 or 2 new invasions for turn 2, just gonna pound away at Malaya and PI as best I can. Also waiting to see what happens in China and which way Rob moves his troops before I will get more aggressive there.

Question for the beta testers - I think every unit I have is understrength at the beginning - especially in china. Did you guys wait a few turns to fill them out or push onward ?

Xargun

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Flash - 6/29/2004 9:01:26 PM   
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RE: Flash - 6/29/2004 9:02:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rroberson

Air Raid Pearl Harbor...this is not a drill....more to follow.


NO WAY !! Its just some misguided Japanese youths... Don't worry about it... Go back to sleep America....

BTW, where's my turn ??

Xargun

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RE: Flash - 6/29/2004 10:24:17 PM   
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RE: Flash - 6/29/2004 10:48:26 PM   
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The BBC is reporting that Swordfish from Singapore attacked and destroyed a Japanese troop convoy off of Khota Bharu today. The commander was quoted as saying that his pilots scored several hits on Japanese transports and also struck a Japanese cruiser.

According to American press reports B-17s attacked a Japanese carrier off the southeastern coast of the Philipines. Additionally, the American press has reported landings all across the Philipines.

UPI is reporting that Wake island some miles west of Midway has not been heard from since this morning's strike against Pearl Harbor.

The Americans are reporting that one of their battleships was heavily damaged in this morning's raid against Pearl Harbor and as many as 200 sailors and soldiers were killed in the attack.

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RE: Flash - 6/29/2004 11:07:06 PM   
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The BBC is reporting that Swordfish from Singapore attacked and destroyed a Japanese troop convoy off of Khota Bharu today. The commander was quoted as saying that his pilots scored several hits on Japanese transports and also struck a Japanese cruiser.


Brits are starting with the propaganda already?

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RE: Flash - 6/30/2004 12:41:44 AM   
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RE: Flash - 6/30/2004 1:44:01 AM   
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I can read this while waiting for the game to come out.

Great start.

Mike

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RE: Flash - 6/30/2004 2:11:55 AM   
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But losing 30 some Kates is rough. All those elite prewar pilots.

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War Department - 6/30/2004 3:22:21 AM   
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The Navy Department has announced that Nimitz will be replacing Kimmel as CINCPAC commander. While no blame has been assessed for this morning's raid at Pearl Harbor the navy would like to have someone they feel can be more inspirational to the sailors and soldiers assigned to defending the US West Coast.

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RE: War Department - 6/30/2004 3:49:26 AM   
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RE: Flash - 6/30/2004 4:38:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Good PH attack Xargun.
But losing 30 some Kates is rough. All those elite prewar pilots.


Just remember what the AAR says is not always true Lots of those reported killed by Allied pilots were merely damaged and the highly skilled and courageous Japanese pilots managed to nurse many of them home to their carriers - where repairs are hurridly underway.

I also think that the Allied press is simply lying to their people - standard procedure for the corrupt governments of the West

Xargun

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Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 7:43:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well Dec 8th came and went and I think I'm going to execute Nagumo. He had strict orders to attack PH again and all he did was hit the airfield once and pounce on a fleeing US Destroyer TF. Now he is low on ammo will be ordered to withdraw - in disgrace I might add.

Everything went ok, I finally took some bases, but those damn Marines on Wake won't die. I took Guam and the Allies scuttled the MSW Penguin to avod it being captured. There was a not so vicious surface conflict just north of Lingayen (PI) where Rob sent a small TF of PT boats against my invasion fleet. The bombardment fleet blew the hell out of 5 PTs and left several others smoking cripples at a cost of two Allied torpedoes hitting home - one on a cruiser, one on a AP (I think).

My subs officially suck. I lost 5 subs in one day with one or two more crippled - probably not making it back to any base. 2 Were lost near PH, 1 in the Straits of Malacca - from the Repulse's battle grounp. Two more were lost off the coast of Soerbaja trying to interdict Allied escapees.

Not much else to report, other than PI seems to be going well - have 3 bases there now - whereas in Malaya I have taken none yet... oh well..

Here ya go.....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63

61 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 1
CL Yubari, Shell hits 3

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Davao, 41,61, firing at TF 153
TF 153 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 41,61

47 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Horai Maru, Shell hits 1
MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
206 casualties reported
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ASW attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
SS I-20, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Farragut
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Sub attack at 22,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-165, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied Ships * Running for India up the Malacca Straits
DD Jupiter
DD Isis
DD Encounter
DD Stronghold
DD Express
DD Electra
DD Tenedos
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
CL Danae
BC Repulse
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Sub attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
SS I-22

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Henley
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Sub attack near Moloaki at 113,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-4, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied Ships * This very fleet will pay very soon
DM Breese
DM Sicard
DM Pruitt
DM Preble
DM Tracy
DM Ramsay
DM Montgomery
DM Gamble
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Chandler
DMS Perry
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane
DMS Hovey
DD Ward
DD Schley
DD Chew
DD Litchfield
DD Allen
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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-5, hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Shaw
DD Conyngham
DD Case
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Sub attack at 42,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Childs
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Coastal Guns at Davao, 41,61, firing at TF 153
TF 153 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 41,61

70 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships *Minor damage to all
MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Shell hits 2
AP Horai Maru, Shell hits 2
AP Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50 * Useless Attack - See below

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M Nell x 84

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 18 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 81
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 21

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 2 destroyed
B-17C Fortress: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-26A: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Buffalo I x 24
Vildebeest IV x 23
Blenheim IV x 4
Hudson I x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 3 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 8 destroyed, 7 damaged
Blenheim IV: 5 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships * Results of a poor raid on Singapore Airfields
Maybe its time to pull out?
BB Haruna
CA Atago
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 1000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 7 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dadjangas at 41,62

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 4
B5N Kate x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Legazpi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lepus

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 113,67 * Near PH

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
D3A Val x 51
B5N Kate x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships * Remember this TF ? It sunk one of my subs earlier
revenge
DM Breese, Bomb hits 1
DMS Lamberton, Shell hits 12, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ward, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DM Sicard, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Chandler
DMS Hovey
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Allen, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
DMS Wasmuth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Chew
DD Litchfield
DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
DMS Boggs, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
DD Schley
DMS Zane
DM Preble
DM Ramsay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 113,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
D3A Val x 19
B5N Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DMS Hovey, Shell hits 4
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Gamble, Shell hits 12
CL Detroit, Shell hits 12, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
DMS Lamberton, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ward, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Zane, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Litchfield

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
4 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Sub attack at 23,65 * Near Soerbaja

Japanese Ships
SS I-153, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied Ships
DD Edsall
DD Whipple
DD John D. Edwards
DD Alden
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Lingayen at 44,50

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
PG Kiso Maru
PG Myoken Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-32, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-35, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-41, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Lingayen at 44,50

Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Torpedo hits 1
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze
PG Kiso Maru
PG Myoken Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-33, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk
PT PT-34, and is sunk
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Sub attack at 23,65 * Near Soerbaja

Japanese Ships
SS I-155, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage * Sunk

Allied Ships
DD Edsall
DD Whipple
DD John D. Edwards
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Ground combat at Wake Island * These brave Marines will not DIE…

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1418 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1812 troops, 34 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
289 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7094 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 150 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23641 troops, 295 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 13209 troops, 121 guns, 3 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Laoag

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3051 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 540 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Laoag base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11384 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 294 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lingayen base !!!
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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4610 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 19758 troops, 248 guns, 15 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Kuantan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2895 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 23717 troops, 278 guns, 0 vehicles
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Ground combat at Davao

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2953 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 12818 troops, 94 guns, 18 vehicles
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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9784 troops, 167 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 542 troops, 4 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 84 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 9:11:07 AM   
Ron Saueracker


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Status: offline 		I see you are experiencing the Allied ASW Xargun! Definitely the first thing that needs major adjustment. Can't believe Rob sent that big TF out...what a slaughter! He's gonna miss the escorts as the uber ASW he benefits from at the moment are only available if the ships exist.

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 9:57:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Had Nagumo done as ordered and I hadn't sent that TF out they would of been sitting at anchor awaiting their torpedos, I lose a few tin cans :) but most of my ships escaped....

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 11:23:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rroberson

Had Nagumo done as ordered and I hadn't sent that TF out they would of been sitting at anchor awaiting their torpedos, I lose a few tin cans :) but most of my ships escaped....


Escaped ? I don't think so

Xargun

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 3:23:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some serious taunting going on...bit of a niggle AAR.

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 5:41:36 PM   
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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 6:08:01 PM   
rroberson

 

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Status: offline 		There will be more :)....besides what else could I do....I "knew" he was going to hang around a 2nd day and bomb PH. I would of had I been in his shoes...(his first day of attacks had to appear less then satisfactory to him). My choices were to leave my ships tied to the pier and await their torpedos or at least try to get them the hell out of the harbor. :) That destroyer group got savaged to be sure, but I saved 90 percent of the ships that went streaming out of that harbor including a large precentage of merchants as well as heavier warships. If she could make steam she did. Now I personally hope KB hangs around for just 1 more day .

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 6:12:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		rrob,
Isn't that risky.. I mean if its badly damaged at pearl it gets fixed.. if it is out to sea it might burn down to the waterline.. float damage/sysdamage?????

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 6:22:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		<smiles> I can imagine the orders coming from CINCPAC right now.....


No matter what else you do gentlemen, you will remain tied to the pier, we have to give those Jap bastards easy targets to torpedo. Sorry, risky or not, I was not going to leave ships tied to the pier awaiting their fate. This is the fighting navy. Besides I now have him precisely where I want him, I know where his carriers are :)...

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 6:35:45 PM   
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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 6:40:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are the US CVs in their historical positions at the start of the game ? Ie can the Jap player go hunting those nearest the KB or are they too far away from attack ?

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 7:22:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 52nd Lowland

Are the US CVs in their historical positions at the start of the game ? Ie can the Jap player go hunting those nearest the KB or are they too far away from attack ?


From what I saw of an Allied 1st turn, both CVs are like 20 hexes west of PH and with both TF's speed about the same, there is almost NO chance of KB hitting the Allied CVs, unless he brings then back to PH right away - you never know though, thats why I sent planes for Naval attack and upped my CAP coverage for turn 2...

Xargun

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RE: Japan's Steady Advance - 6/30/2004 7:37:04 PM   
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