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Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 6:00:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		An Allied AK was sailing within a hex or two of a Japanese base (Palau,Truk, Kwajalien - can't remember) when it was attacked by a group of Bettys who got one bomb hit out of 20 or so aircraft. The strange thing was that the Bettys used bombs (at 7000 feet) instead of using torpedoes.

Is there some range restriction on using torps? I know on the first turn when attacking the port of PH there is a decision made as to bombs vs torps but didn't think it applied to naval attack.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 6:19:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		This may be similar to situation we are having in our game Sonny. It turned out for me the reason was the base they were launching from was not yet size 4. If the base is less than size 4 they will always use bombs for naval attack. Other than that, they will use torps from normal range and bombs at extended range. The altittude does have an impact as well.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 6:30:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Remember the penalty imposed by an airfield too small. All aircraft fly at the extended range configuration if they are operating from a base too small for their needs. Loadouts at extreme range will be bombs instead of torps as well as aircraft flying from too small a base.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 8:45:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Never thought about that. OK. I will check and see if I can find which base they were flying from.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 9:31:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting, had"t noticed that, but I'd say it is
better then in the original Pacwar where unless a lef\vel 4 AF , Level bombers couldn't even fly...

Things are different in this version, AF size is more for how well handles
any type of plane then in limiting an AF to certain sizes then?

So a Betty or a B25 can fly off a size 1, 2 or 3 but their limited in bombload and other things,
in original a Level group on a size 1,2, or 3 would all be inoperative.

Gotta take that in account now, just cause its a size 1 or 2 doesn't mean Nasty Bettys aren't flying out of there..

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 9:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Same applies to any aircraft flying a strike mission. Undersized bases make them fly as if extended range.

This becomes really critical for the Yanks as the B-29 monster REQUIRES a size 7 airfield for normal operations.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/28/2004 10:26:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		check if the bettys have a secondary mission assigned. Had that problem in the campaign game. primary mission:naval attack, secondary mission: airfield attack with clark as target= result:Bettys attacked high and didn't hit a thing; retried that by deleting the target and the secondary mission and voila->torpedo attacks and lots and lots of wrecks. Don't know whether this is a bug, but it sure sounds like one.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/29/2004 3:52:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		As fr as I can tell they flew from Bonin which is only a level 2 base. So that was the answer.

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RE: Bombing Bettys - 7/29/2004 5:16:00 AM   
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As fr as I can tell they flew from Bonin which is only a level 2 base. So that was the answer.


Working as designed

Watch them ops losses on a size 2 base, gonna hurt you.

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