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RE: Magnificent Lightnings! - 3/8/2008 6:28:42 PM   
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An old S class sub was hit by a Judy and sank south of Osaka.
Another sub has been reported hit and an AD sunk of Ishieak.

Have finished re-organizing the AF and pulled back from Amami. Don't wish
enemy P-51s to sweep us from Luzon. Enemy casualties should be 4Es or CAG units.

All operational surface units are being gathered for a last effort against the enemy.
The Submarine fleet will also be concentrated. It can lay last minute minefields and hunt down
crippled ships.

The carrier Taiho and her escorts will be kept apart from the surface fleet and operate in a raider
role.

The Yamato stopped repairing at 17 sys damage. After 5 days no repairs have been performed.
I just don't understand how repairs are performed, because the port must have generated enough repair
points to repair at least 1 sys damage per day. Same in Tokyo, Taiho is at 15 sys and has remained so
for days without any other ships requiring repairs. Tokyo alone should be able to do better than this.
This is depressing in a time when no more ships are being produced.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/10/45

Air Combat

Surprised at how many assets Andy has diverted to India at this stage.
The possibility of a complete recapture looms in the back of his head me thinks.

We have sent our Shindens home and only a small AF is left to guard India - but a good fight is
nevertheless out up.

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 27
Ki-100 Tony x 24
Ki-102a Randy x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7
TBM Avenger x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 10 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Guess Andy wanted this sweep to go in first!
(These Corsairs must be needed elsewhere??)

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 27
Ki-100 Tony x 18
Ki-102a Randy x 14

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 15 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 11 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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We still had some fighters left that turned some B-29s back:

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 12
Ki-100 Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 39
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Day Air attack on TF, near Panaji at 17,14

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 10
SB2C Helldiver x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kumagawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 13
Ki-100 Tony x 22
Ki-102a Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F6F Hellcat x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 19
SB2C Helldiver x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 6 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Panaji

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 8133 troops, 0 guns, 422 vehicles, Assault Value = 244

Defending force 1180 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied max assault: 416 - adjusted assault: 419

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 104 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
221 casualties reported
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Enemy troops pushing north towards Bombay:

Ground combat at 20,12

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7462 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1551

Defending force 17 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied max assault: 220 - adjusted assault: 222

Japanese max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 222 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Enemy Fleet Build up and India Sit Map




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Has it begun? - 3/9/2008 4:04:24 PM   
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I need some time to think abut the next turn.
Here is a combat summary.

One good news: Our top ace with 31 kills that was wounded in the last major air battle
over Amamami is back in action. Rumors says he escaped from the hospital to rejoin his
squadron and take part in the decisive battles to come.

The enemy will most certainly notice his presence next time they invade our air space!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/11/45

The vast enemy fleet is moving towards Ishieak and encountered our mines there.
At least we got rid of another destroyer without cost to ourselves.

TF 1097 encounters mine field at Ishieak (52,46)

Japanese Ships
AP Hasuna Maru, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Hilary Jones, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Valkenburgh
DD Stembel
DD Metcalf
DD Mertz
DD Madison
DD Wiley
DD Wedderburn
DD Walker
DD Wadsworth
DD Wadleigh
DD Strong
DD Stockham
DD Stanly
DD Sproston

Allied ground losses: - Fast transport mission!!
56 casualties reported
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Air Combat

India

Again we come under heavy air attack in Bombay and performed wel despite the odds!

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 17
Ki-100 Tony x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 39
F4U-1D Corsair x 35
TBM Avenger x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 12 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 4
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Home Islands Defensive Perimeter

We moved our forward fighter defenses back just in time!
Not a single fighter met the enemy onslaught: This nasty sweep would have reduced our CAP
severly.

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 67
P-61A Black Widow x 22

No Allied losses
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The first attack by 4Es was a small one...

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 36

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 40
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The follow up raid was devastating and would have pushed through:

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 448

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 11 damaged

Japanese Ships - mostly damaged ships in port
AP Ural Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ryoyo Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Haguro Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sangetsu Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yoshida Maru #3, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AS Chogei, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sasago Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Daijukyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Senkai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
531 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Airbase hits 46
Airbase supply hits 38
Runway hits 780
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 3
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If that wasn't enough another 300 Super forts attacked!
This was an all out attack. In all 800 Superforts attacked Amami today - is it possible
that Andy is planning an invasion?

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 296

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 606
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More small scale recon attacks on the enemy fleets:

Day Air attack on TF at 49,48

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 13
F6F Hellcat x 39
F4U-1 Corsair x 31
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed
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Enemy launched a strike on a single ship in the Okinawas:

Day Air attack on TF, near Kadina at 54,45

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 24
Corsair IV x 23
SB2C Helldiver x 7
TBM Avenger x 7

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Yokohama Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Near Java

More freebies of Java:

Day Air attack on TF at 15,58

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DMS Ellyson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Helena Modjeska, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 12,59

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
AK North Wind, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ralph Talbot
AK Tjisadane, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Ground Combat

Performed a recon mission from Naga and into Manila and found plenty of troops here.
Andy has certainly not embarked his entire Army?

Ground combat at Manila

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 290977 troops, 2883 guns, 167 vehicles, Assault Value = 5937

Defending force 113 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied max assault: 12952 - adjusted assault: 12056

Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 12056 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Recon Reports

As you can see it looks like an enemy invasion fleet is gathering.
On the other hand the dispersion of enemy fleets is a bit strange.

If this really is the invasion fleet - can we say anything about were it is going.
Could it be a decoy - and what preparations should we do.

Can we sit out for another few days and await the enemy moves?
I think this would be the best solution. Pull back our ships and troops and let Andy
get closer before taking any action.

Advice?




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RE: Has it begun? - 3/9/2008 6:13:04 PM   
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i think this is not a trick. He is going to land somewhere, but will he land on Amami?

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/9/2008 6:35:47 PM   
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That's what it looks like - since he's staging of Ishieak the goal should be Kyushu area.
I'm moving a inf and a pz div towards Kyushu.

The amount of engineers in the Okinawas can keep the airfields open unless B-29s pound them daily.
The question is when and were to send in our air force. We cannot deploy prematurely - only landings in
the most critical Home Island bases will trigger an all out effort. We still got the last 5-6 months to go
and need to keep a reserve.

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/10/2008 7:15:21 PM   
PzB74


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Ok $hit is just about to hit the fan here!
Making my last preparations to meet the storm.

Trying to get another 2 destroyers ready for the fight.
The sub fleet is loading up mines and will try to lay them in front of the invasion fleet.

Our remaining patrol crafts and minesweepers are also gathering to support the Combined Fleet Operations.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/12/45

Bombardments

4000 casualties from bombardment of 1 BB and 1 CA must be a new record...
Got plenty of support units in Bombay.

Naval bombardment of Bombay, at 20,10 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed

15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Shropshire, Shell hits 15
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
4607 casualties reported
Guns lost 48

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 5
Port hits 1
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 5
Ki-100 Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 34
F4U-1D Corsair x 37
TBM Avenger x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Ayatosan Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Suwa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 2
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It's pretty clear that Andy is passing by or to the Okinawas. He continues to pound
the chain with his B-29s.

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 334

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 34
Airbase supply hits 15
Runway hits 575
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 19

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 210

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 434
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK West Nilus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
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Sweeps came late again, but met no opposition....

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 47
P-61A Black Widow x 18

No Allied losses
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Ground Combat

Pushing the nuisance Para unit back towards Lucknow. India looks like it has been attacked
by moles...

Ground combat at 27,13

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2875 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 60 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Japanese max assault: 56 - adjusted assault: 54

Allied max defense: 3 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Invasion Fleet Forming Up




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RE: Has it begun? - 3/10/2008 9:27:04 PM   
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It is too early to move your reserves. Just keep them equidistant from Shikoku and Kyushu for now. Once he starts to land you'll know where to move them. Right now all your movement will do is probably add another 2 or 4 days of additional movement IF you guess wrong. Since it'll take him a while to move slowly into position ( he can't race in as then stragglers will fall behind and be left uncapped )  unload such a mammoth force you can afford to not move until such time as you have a better idea where he's going.

Hold back, keep the reserve in being, once it is committed you are committed, keep your freedom of decision and action for as long as possible.

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/11/2008 12:14:11 AM   
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It was not a 'full deployment' of reserves Nemo - I simply moved the into Kyushu in order to be able to move to
threatened bases 2 days earlier than if the target is Shikoku. If enemy ships move towards Shikoku we will be able to divert them.
Have to move by air and sea anyway.

It is also dangerous to move prematurely in case Andy feints first - but that may be difficult with such a huge fleet.

I'm not really in a position to exploit the potential uncovered TF. Then I have to turn a lot of bombers on naval attack
and they will most likely attack the most well protected targets. So I have prepared a plan for how to best exploit enemy
weaknesses while optimizing our own resources.

The only truly good thing is that Andy doesn't have any bases within fighter range of the Home Islands.
Ishieak is still size 1, me thinks it takes forever to build a size 0 base to size 2
Read a thread on the forum were it was said that it doesn't help to increase the number of engineers beyond a certain number.
This makes sense, some of the best programming in regards to land combat in WitP that I've heard about for a while.

I'm still considering whether it is worth committing the Taiho or not.
It's our last carrier and she can do a valuable job as a raider and threatened enemy weak spots when fully repaired
(currently at 15 sys). She can also go down in a blaze of glory while delivering a torrent of kamikaze units.

Been reading Andys thread against Pauk since Pauk stopped posting and I know that he will most likely deploy his fleet carrier along with a CVL and CVEs. Since most our bombers will target the carriers it will be a waste of resources to throw them all in again a full strength target since the troops will most likely get ashore anyway. Our prime objective will therefore be to save our best naval bombers and wear down enemy CAG strength and fleet AA ammo, thus making them more vulnerable in the long run. Andy will have to run in reinforcements and supplies as well.

So I agree with your assessment about holding back reserves Nemo.
Let's wait Andy out and let him play his cards before showing our ace of spades

Can someone go and post this poster on Andy's capitalist thread?
It's part of our new propaganda offensive






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RE: Has it begun? - 3/11/2008 5:45:22 AM   
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Obviously, your striking ability is limited since your fighters don't seem to want to escort. What you need is some way for his CAG to come to you so you can burn it out. Do you have a way where you feel your CAP fighters can be insured of engaging his CAG enmasse?

Alternatively, take several datais of fighters, set them to escort, and then set one small sentai of bombers to naval attack. This way, if you are lucky, you will get a large number of escorts while only sacrificing a few bombers. If the fighters fail to escort in large numbers, then you still only lose a small number of bombers.

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/11/2008 8:48:15 AM   
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Remember to have at least a single sub in the same hex as where the big airbattles will take place, this will give you a 50/50 chance of having your pilot rescued.

You could always try the "sacrificiall lamb" method. Creating a single ship TF in a harbour hex and then CAP it with everything you have got...  

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/11/2008 6:13:08 PM   
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In the Home Islands there are so many big air bases and so much aviation support that I hope
to be able to field a more potent striking force then before - but I'm not all to confident about this.

I checked and Black Widdows on sweep missions can reach 3 bases in Kyushu.
600 B-29s will be able to reach almost any base in the western part of the Home Islands.

So our ability to put up a major defensive posture against enemy CAG depends on were Andy invades.
The further east he goes the less support he will get.

Sending a lot of fighters to escort a few bombers is not so effective though, enemy CAP is lethal when we attack.
A more effective approach is to LRCAP the target area from many surrounding bases.
An even better one is to sweep the enemy target hex and then send in our bombers.

I got some 500 quasi trained Reppu and Zeke kamikazes standing by.
Another batch of FB and level bombers is also available and I'm planning to dispatch hundreds of float planes
and low exp bombers on kami missions as well as soon as enemy CAP dissipates above the invasion fleets.
Ca 1000 LBA are also available and they have received intensive training for some time.

That's good advice Wild Willie!
Must expect every sub in the same hex as the invasion fleet to be lost, but it can save a lot of important pilots for the Empire!

Andy is very careful about sending his CAGs against single ships - burned his fingers before.
But we can certainly play on this card by sending out our own carrier and surface elements and thus forcing him to deploy
more strike ac.

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RE: Has it begun? - 3/13/2008 1:29:53 AM   
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13th of November 1945, 29 years before my first birthday!

Enemy replenishes at Ishieak and continues preparations while bombing the Okinawas.
We await behind our fortifications.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/13/45

Air Combat

Most air units now in Karachi refitting.
A few Tonys put up a token resistance but manages to shoot down 4-5 enemy ac!

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 54
TBM Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 18
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Port hits 1
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 27

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Heiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 9
Port supply hits 2
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Still heavy sweeps over Amami:

Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 80
P-61A Black Widow x 23

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 173

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 382
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
TBM Avenger x 15

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 6
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Tatsuta Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Suwa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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My goal throughout the game has been to never pass by an opportunity to sink enemy ships
and it's not without a certain glee this will continue even into 1946!

Day Air attack on TF, near Mentawi Island at 17,49

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Republic
AP Monrovia, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

1608 enemy assault value - far to little to threaten Bombay but enough to lay down a siege.
Perhaps Andy is encouraged to send more troops and ships to India?

Ground combat at 20,11

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 59646 troops, 677 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1608

Defending force 721 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied max assault: 1329 - adjusted assault: 595

Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 595 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
509 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Bombay is now cut off




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RE: Has it begun? - 3/13/2008 2:57:39 PM   
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Come on, get on with this war will you guy's.....

Typical, just as things start to get exciting there is a commercial brake...... 


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It has begun! - 3/13/2008 11:17:14 PM   
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A turn got lost in cyberspace Wild Willie

Ok it has begun. It looks like Amami is the target - but it could be
a feint so we're still awaiting enemy landings. Can't show our cards yet
so we sent in the kamikaze. Despite large numbers broke through it was
impossible to score hits. Still, we're lowering enemy AA ammo which is also
important at this early stage. Know this from earlier experience.

The Fleet and Air Force has been put on full alert and the next turns will
be decisive.

Not really looking forward to it because I don't have many effective weapons
against Uber CAPs. I can use hundreds of transports to empty enemy TFs ammo, but
don't want to this. Stock handles small and medium scale combat much better
than large scale battles.

If the target is Amami we have to fight offensively in a turn or two.
If Andy bypasses we have our Shindens which may give us an advantage.
I'd still prefer him to land at Amami though...gives us more time to prepare defenses
in the Home Islands.

Luzon is on the border between 2 weather zones.
Hex line below Aparri is almost always clear or overcast - from Aparri and up
it's t-storms almost every day.

This means enemy 4E and sweep fighters fly almost every turn.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/14/45

Enemy ships enters Amami!

TF 1080 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Japanese Ships
AP Ryoyo Maru, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Haggard
DD Caperton

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 6
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 74
P-61A Black Widow x 29
B-29 Superfortress x 32

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 314

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Sangetsu Maru, Bomb hits 26, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
261 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Port hits 30
Port fuel hits 13
Port supply hits 30
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 111

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 266
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Day Air attack on Naha , at 54,46

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 1
B-29 Superfortress x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28
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Day Air attack on 2nd Hvy Gun Regiment, at 56,44

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 83
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
Corsair IV x 26
SB2C Helldiver x 9
TBM Avenger x 40

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 6 damaged
TBM Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 31st/C Division, at 56,44

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 128
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 52
SB2C Helldiver x 24
TBM Avenger x 44

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Day Air attack on 31st/C Division, at 56,44

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 128
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 52
SB2C Helldiver x 24
TBM Avenger x 44

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Day Air attack on 31st/C Division, at 56,44

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 62
F6F Hellcat x 74
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
SB2C Helldiver x 49
TBM Avenger x 43

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Here comes our first major kami strike: 60 out of 100 Reppus break through.
0 hits Ridiculous...

Day Air attack on TF at 54,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 100
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 100 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE St. Lo
CVE Cape Esperance
CVE Takanis Bay
CVE Vella Gulf
CVE Commencement Bay
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 20 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed
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High level strike - all kamis get through - 1 hit!
Even high altitude kamis are more useless than in RL.

Day Air attack on TF at 55,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zeke x 66

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F6F Hellcat x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zeke: 66 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB Idaho
CVE Tulagi
CVE Casablanca
BB Alabama
CL Perth
CL Columbia, Kamikaze hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F6F Hellcat x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
Corsair IV x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Another 12 misses...

Day Air attack on TF at 54,44

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 17 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Manila Bay
CVE Vella Gulf
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It has begun!




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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 12:40:01 AM   
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A few details:

Got ca 15 subs loaded with mines. Provided only aggressive sub captains, was hardly a competent
man in command there. As soon as the enemy invasion beaches is located the subs can try to place their mines
and attempt a few attacks.

Some 25 patrol and minesweepers have been readied as aux support vessels for the Navys surface fleet and transports.
Large number of barges will be used to reinforce the invasion beach, ignoring losses.
Enemy ships will expend lots of ammo to stop them. This seems to be the one thing we can drain the enemy for

Our air transport fleet will also be alerted and should be able to bring in ca 500 AV before the transports are depleted.
A maximum of maybe 750-1000 AV could then be brought in to any endangered base. Already 1500 AV at Amamai and the HQ there
has 100% prep points. It will take a tremendous effort to break this nut, but I'm sure Andy has the tools to make it if he
really wants to.

The Taiho is capable of 28 knots and will be held back - she can create a stir among the enemy fleets.
I'm dividing the rest of the surface fleet into a battle group with 3 battleships and the remaining operational destroyers.
The most effective TF left to us will be the 3 heavy and 3 light cruisers that will form a fast cruiser striking force.
A last long lance charge at the end of the line?

If we can disperse the enemy our air force can maybe inflict enough damage on enemy naval assets that another follow up
invasion will be delayed and reduced in strength.

Parts of the Ops report:

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR 11/14/45

Enemy fleets heading North by East:

Ki-46-III Dinah has spotted Bennington at 56,44
D4Y Judy has spotted Bennington at 56,44
D4Y Judy has spotted Boxer at 56,44
C6N Myrt has spotted Boxer at 56,44
G4M2 Betty has spotted Essex at 56,44
C6N Myrt has spotted Minneapolis at 54,44

Ki-67 Peggy has spotted LST-356 at 54,44
Ki-46-III Dinah has spotted LCT-375 at 41,69
Ki-67 Peggy has spotted LCI(R)-644 at 54,44

C6N Myrt has spotted Stembel at 54,44
C6N Myrt has spotted Jewell Seam at 54,44
E7K2 Alf has spotted John M. Bozeman at 54,44
Ki-67 Peggy has spotted Winged Arrow at 54,44
E13A1 Jake has spotted Empire Hartebeeste at 54,44

Ki-30 Ann attacking Thornback at 62,39
Thornback is reported HIT

< Message edited by PzB -- 3/14/2008 12:47:44 AM >


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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 1:55:08 AM   
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Make him pay.....

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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 2:06:41 AM   
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At least they went for the juicy targets. Slim consolation, but well that's already better than usual huh? 

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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 6:02:26 AM   
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I am not sure how using up his AA ammo is going to help if he is going for Ammani. You are not going to be able to follow up very well since that island will be out of range of most of your Shindens. Instead, he will invade, pull back his fleet to reload, and then come back later to invade the home islands. Your big hope, obviously, is to keep Amami suppressed as long as possible once he takes it. Question is, do you have the bombers/fighters to be able to do that?

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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 5:08:40 PM   
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That Kami rate is Horrible! Does anyone know if this will be addressed in AE? The Divine Wind has become the Divine Fart!

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RE: It has begun! - 3/14/2008 6:49:32 PM   
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not so bloody A2A model will provide more kamikaze hits. That is what i have been told.

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Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/14/2008 9:43:02 PM   
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Ok, the enemy has gone ashore at Amami!
Huge armadas of surface ships, LBA and CAG supports the invasion.
241 000 troops have landed - not counting the casualties - 10k in landing and another 15k in the first assault!-)

Enemy only got a 0-1 odds, but with so many troops we're severely out numbered and can not afford such costly
casualties (12k today) for a prolonged time.

It will be difficult to get rid of these pests, maybe impossible.
Will get back to our defensive plans later.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/15/45

TF 1044 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
MSW Scurry
MSW Competent
MSW Champion
MSW Prevail
MSW Spear
MSW Swallow
AE Daniel S. Lamont, Mine hits 1, on fire
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TF 1088 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
MSW Cessnock
MSW Strive
AP Empress of Asia, Mine hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
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TF 1097 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
DD Madison, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Wadleigh
DD Stoddard
DD Stockham
DD Stevens
DD Stembel
DD Pringle
DD Metcalf

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
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TF 1111 encounters mine field at Amami (56,44)

Allied Ships
MSW Recruit
MSW Zeal
MSW Velocity
DE Tisdale
DE Halloran
DE Charles R. Greer
DD Killen
LCI LCI-995, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Sub/ASW Attacks

ASW attack near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
SS RO-42, hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Remey
DD Rowe
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Surface Combat

Huge enemy support TFs clear away a few derelict transports.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Daijukyo Maru, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas
BB New York
BB Texas
CA Canberra
CL Marblehead
CA Louisville
CL Ontario
CL Vicksburg
CL Pensacola
CL St. Louis
DD Hale
DD Halford
DD Halligan
DD Paul Hamilton
DD Healy
DD McCord
DD McGowan
DD McKee
DD McNair
DD Miller
DD Morrison
DD Murray
DD Newcomb
DD Nicholas
DD Stephen Potter
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Sasago Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas
BB New York
BB Texas
CA Canberra
CL Marblehead
CA Louisville
CL Ontario
CL Vicksburg
CL Pensacola
CL St. Louis
DD Hale
DD Halford
DD Halligan
DD Paul Hamilton
DD Healy
DD McCord
DD McGowan
DD McKee
DD McNair
DD Miller
DD Morrison
DD Murray
DD Newcomb
DD Nicholas
DD Stephen Potter
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AP Yoshida Maru #3, Shell hits 33, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas
BB New York
BB Texas
CA Canberra
CL Marblehead
CA Louisville
CL Ontario
CL Vicksburg
CL Pensacola
CL St. Louis
DD Hale
DD Halford
DD Halligan
DD Paul Hamilton
DD Healy
DD McCord
DD McGowan
DD McKee
DD McNair
DD Miller
DD Morrison
DD Murray
DD Newcomb
DD Nicholas
DD Stephen Potter
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese Ships
AG AG-106, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-116, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-370, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AG AG-373, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5049, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-2059, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-2081, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
AG AG-2091, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
AG AG-2099, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AG AG-2531, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Houston
DD Remey
DD Rowe
DD Schroeder
CA San Francisco
CA Quincy
CA Hobart
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Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Bombay, at 20,10 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied Ships
CA Shropshire
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Pensacola
CL Vicksburg
CL Ontario
CA Louisville
CL Marblehead
CA Canberra
BB Texas
BB New York
BB Arkansas

Japanese ground losses:
504 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 1

Runway hits 12
Port supply hits 1
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Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Chester
BB Idaho
BB Wisconsin

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
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Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Allied Ships
BB Washington
BB South Dakota
BB Alabama

Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
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Naval bombardment of Amami, at 56,44

Allied Ships
CA Houston
CA Indianapolis
CA San Francisco
CA Quincy
CA Hobart

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Invasions

Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1003
TF 1003 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

153 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LST LST-776, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
LST LST-767, Shell hits 4
DE Oberrender, Shell hits 1
DE Naifeh

Allied ground losses:
2791 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1003
TF 1003 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
175 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1004
TF 1004 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

168 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LSM LSM-58
DE James E. Craig, Shell hits 1
DD Twiggs, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1730 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1028
TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

167 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DE Koiner, Shell hits 3, on fire
LCI(R) LCS(L)-119, Shell hits 10, on fire
LCI(R) LCS(L)-118, Shell hits 6
DE Kirkpatrick

Allied ground losses:
2553 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1033
TF 1033 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

108 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Tuscaloosa, Shell hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
3126 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1050
TF 1050 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

108 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LST LST-706, Shell hits 5, on fire
DE Hilbert, Shell hits 4
DE Eldridge

Allied ground losses:
2642 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1088
TF 1088 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

74 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LCI(R) LCS(L)-21
LCI(R) LCS(L)-23, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
3347 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1097
TF 1097 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
556 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1108
TF 1108 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DE McGinty
DE Forster
DD McDermut
DE Charles E. Brannon
DE Ulvert M. Moore

Allied ground losses:
2369 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1110
TF 1110 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

69 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Tingey, Shell hits 1
LSM LSM-379
LSM LSM-376, Shell hits 3

Allied ground losses:
428 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1111
TF 1111 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

172 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LCI LCI-626, Shell hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1139 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1112
TF 1112 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
827 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1115
TF 1115 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

Allied ground losses:
493 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Amami, 56,44, firing at TF 1116
TF 1116 troops unloading over beach at Amami, 56,44

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Port hits 1
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 86
P-61A Black Widow x 27
B-29 Superfortress x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 259

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
347 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 7
Port supply hits 9
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Day Air attack on Amami , at 56,44

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 121

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 221
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Day Air attack on 511th USA Para Regiment, at 28,16

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,45

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas
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Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 16,66

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Helena Modjeska, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amami at 56,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18
Ki-102a Randy x 6

Allied aircraft - this is todays enemy CAP over Amami
FM-2 Wildcat x 63
F6F Hellcat x 145
F4U-1 Corsair x 28
F4U-1D Corsair x 89

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 18 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 6 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Amami

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 60498 troops, 828 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Defending force 241605 troops, 2399 guns, 1424 vehicles, Assault Value = 7085

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
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Both enemy assault and friendly defense values were moderated down quite a bit!
Not sure I like the horrendous casualties on Day 1.

Ground combat at Amami

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 217065 troops, 2399 guns, 1411 vehicles, Assault Value = 7085

Defending force 87277 troops, 857 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 1612

Allied max assault: 9340 - adjusted assault: 1233

Japanese max defense: 1183 - adjusted defense: 1280

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
12920 casualties reported
Guns lost 275
Vehicles lost 48

Allied ground losses:
15393 casualties reported
Guns lost 379
Vehicles lost 133
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Invasion!!




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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/14/2008 9:53:21 PM   
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Hmm, given that it'll take him 3 days to recover disruption and be ready to attack again could you not:

a) fly in more troops,
b) set a couple of Army HQs to prep for the invaded base --- this might help your modifiers.

It is a surprise that he lands there but it is also good as it gives you additional weeks and, hopefully, months to prep for the invasion of the Home Islands. One thing though, be prepared to lose a lot to hold this base IF you can since if you CAN hold this base there won't be any invasion of the Home Islands, his forces will be wrecked.

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 12:49:18 PM   
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Pay atention on ranges from amami to home island bases . They will be in range of every type of allied planes .

If it isn't big job can you tell me how much INF divisions and brigades you have in HI bases ?

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 3:13:16 PM   
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I know Nemo, we have to hit the enemy hard on the beaches!
Despite bad weather, enemy superiority and difficulties in launching combined strikes I've released almost
the entire arsenal.

If we can blunt Andy here he will sail back to his cave and never come back!

The advantages:

*)ALL enemy targets within range will be acceptable targets.
*)Only a few LBA fighters at Ishieak, so almost all his losses will be CAG.

A multitude of sweeps, surface combat groups, subs and carrier reactions could weaken enemy CAP
enough over Amami to allow our LBA to get at the TF - and woe to them then.

I've trained my LBA back into pretty ok shape, but this will be the last time I have time and resources
to do it. From now on more and more units will turn kamikaze after being trained to mediocre levels.
Also have hundreds of high exp Sonias and other useless ac that will be turned into kamis and released
at enemy vans and cripples.

Bypassing the Okinawas is very dangerous! Andy needs a lot of B29s to keep Amami suppressed and support
the invasion force. He can't possible have enough to also close both Kadina and Naha. These are extremely
tough and well protected bases and now I'm moving in hundreds of trained Shindens and place some ships there.
If Andy turns his CAGs on naval attack they will find a lot of 'hot' targets.

Worst case scenario:
If Andy captures Amami we must attrit his LCU so much that it will take several months to get them back into shape.
Since Amami is only a size 4 AF he will have to keep mostly fighters here. This means that we must withdraw much
of our heavy CAP out of Kyushu which will lay western Japan open to complete devastation from the air.

I am aware of this Milman, but a size 4 AF can only hold so many ac and since he needs a big CAP it will only be
room for ca 1-150 medium bombers at most. The number of divisions in the Home Islands doesn't matter so much because
they wary in size and exp from the big Guards and Imp divisions to semi built Home Guard divisions. In all we have
ca 30k assault points on the Home Islands including Okinawas and Iwo Jima. It will however be difficult to strip more
than 8-10k for any given invasion area - but this should be sufficient I hope.

Well, the dice is cast - let's see if the Gods of War smiles to us or not




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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 3:38:32 PM   
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Holy cr@p.......

This will hurt both sides.

I LOVE all or nothing battles....

This will be epic, a lord of the rings style showdown only with kamikazes

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 3:53:23 PM   
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"forecast : thunderstorms" . Not very good but lets hope this will be nice attack .

About troops in HI . MAybe you should put 15k in east , 10k in cetral , and 5k in north bases of HI . That way you can react fast on every atempt .

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 3:58:03 PM   
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Now this is going to be the real thing!

With him bypassing Okinawa and Formosa you might consider to shift some of the defenders there to Amami or the HIs.
Did you consider some night bomber attacks - even if they might score just a few hits it might make him divert some of his CAP.

I am not sure I like that you moved the Taiho so close to the landing beach - I might have moved her somewhere to the Matsuyama area to
a) get some land-based Shindens as LRCAP,
b) have some of his carriers react away from the landing beaches,
c) get them in the escort range of your fighters and in the range of more of your small and medium bombers (if his carriers react).
Well, now it is to late and it involved plenty of if's anyway

Looking forward to a great show

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 5:30:06 PM   
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Weather is notoriously bad in this region - almost rain and t-storms everyday.
What I did notice for tomorrow was that Luzon had 'rain' as forecast as well. This may
ground enemy LBA!

I have crack Emily and some Frances bombers on night attack - they got canceled yesterday
because of....bad weather.

Last time I moved the Taiho in to force a reaction the enemy didn't even notice them!!
Andy only puts his search planes on 1-2 or 3 hexes range. Don't think he dares to turn on naval
attacks because they will most likely hit targets under a heavy Shinden CAP! There certainly are
plenty of these decoys around.

I also ordered the Taiho to move north of the invasion beaches and put 40% of Shindens in the bases
nearby on escort missions. Anything that moves into the kill zone will get a tough ride.

Impossible to control such a show, just have to line up the troops and pray.
Odds are stacked heavily against us - I'm expecting heavy losses but there is nothing else to do.

I think there is something like 7k AV just in Kyushu area Milman and another 3.5k on Shikoku.

Turn is in....

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 5:31:40 PM   
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Yes, now is the time to expend all your remaining assets...

BTW might you consider just basing the kami Sonias at Okinawa etc so that they ONLY expend themselves on cripples making for the Phillipines. Also have you committed ALL of your kamis on Day 1? Wouldn't it make more sense to just weaken the CAP on Day 1 and expend your kamis on Day 2 after the CAP has already been significantly worn down.

Lastly, why not transfer the floatplanes off those CAs and BBs so that you can keep those floatplane units in action after the ships go down. I routinely do this when sending ships to their doom.

obviously if all these orders have already been made this doesn't matter but I just thought I'd pipe up "just in case". Either way it'll be damned exciting. Good luck.

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 5:48:22 PM   
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Sonias already in place in Okinawas
Kamikazes were mostly high altitude and I had hoped to smash a cv before the main attacks.
Now I have cleared the runways and made room for our LBA instead. Trying not to over stack too much!

Floatplanes on BBs are Rufes - they will go down with the ships but can shoot down another torpedo bomber
that may have caused damaged.

Trying to setup Snagit for multiple screenshots.

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RE: Enemy invades Amami - 241k men ashore! - 3/15/2008 6:12:24 PM   
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LOL! Should have known you'd have covered the options. Well, we await the result with anticipation. Banzai!!!

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