Slitherine

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It's time to kick him in the nuts....

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ORIGINAL: pauk



o my God.... (but this would happen sooner or later, anyway).

I understand your position, however keep in mind that lessons from your AAR are priceless, imortal and maybe will (hopefully) have impact for the future patches.

It would be nice if you could continue game...

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ORIGINAL: veji1

Arghh....;;

Don't know what to say... At least now you can focus on real life... Still, would it have been different had you been playing with Niks mod ? You would certainly have lost that battle, but maybe not all carriers, and have damaged or sunk quite a few... god... This kills half the expectation I have for this whole board... I hope we win in rugby otherwise it'll be a crappy Week End...

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ORIGINAL: aztez

I think the game should go on. UBER CAP or not the biggest problem with the PBEM's is the fact that once allied player can give some payback most of these games stop.

Since Wobbly & co. took repeat beatings I think the Japanese side should not end the game because it took an gamble and once in a while lost it. Yes, KB got decimated but it was the players choice to battle it out. Now that the allied have control of seas I think Japanese side should start looking other ways to compesate the loss.

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ORIGINAL: PzB

That's just my thoughts; I don't really want to quit - but my feelings advice me to do so. At least for a while.
What do you think, is playing on without heart and soul really the thing to do at this point...?

Wobbly reached this stage with the frustration of the Indian Campaign - Dave got fed up with the game mechanics
and Ken had Internet gremlins. These players played the game for 4-12 months each. So I kinda feel that a replacement
would do me good! Pretty sure we could find a competent Axis fanboy for the task? Since all you loyal followers
are around to support the campaign things would continue like before! I could stick around and provide advice.
Again, appreciate all the fabolous support - you guys are the reason I've kept on for so long

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ORIGINAL: PzB

Give our repair yards 3-4 months and we should be able to field
9 carriers, 3 cvls and 7-8 cves.

In the meantime we have to delay the enemy advance as much as possible and train our LBA pilots to
even higher standards.

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ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown



Sorry to see this result. All you defensive plans have come to naught because of a decision to go for a medium value target of opportunity.

But I do have some comments.

We all knew about the Uber CAP. Much of PzB's defensive planning had been focused on how to deal with this problem. And here we see that had PzB stuck to plan, he could have dealt with it. Notice the extraordinarily large number of Hellcats blown away in just one day of combat. Also notice that Andy lost all these Hellcats even though they outnumbered the defending fighters. And these defending fighters were not even the best fighters that PzB can field--they are only Zekes which are not nearly as good as Tojo's, George's and Tony's.

If, instead of the KB facing off against the allied Death Star, this kind of airbattle had occured using LBA during an attempted invasion of the Marianas or Palaus, Andy's Uber CAP would have been greatly thinned out after the first day of battle. Should that battle continue for one or two days more, with additional Jap fighters being flown in from staging bases, the allied CAP would end up as a shadow of its former self and become ripe for a counter stroke from the KB.

My real question is: under such circumstances, that is, not losing the KB before LBA has even had a chance to play a role, what chances would the allies have in succeeding in pulling off a long range invasion that can only be supported by carriers and unescorted bombers? Does it not seem possible that a Japanese defense is entirely within the realm of the possible as long as the KB is not lost before the decisive battle?

At any rate: All Hail the PzB!

Yammas from The Apo-Tiki Lounge. Future site of WITP AE benders! And then the s--t hit the fan

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ORIGINAL: PzB

Nice to hear from you again Al You're right about the light...I've felt the strain of war for a while!
When I go to bed I still see images of burning Zekes and US heavies in my head. Wake up tired and exhausted
in the morning still thinking about what can be done to win the war <G> I really could do without this for a while

The loss of the carriers is a big blow as it will allow Andy's birdfarms to conduct strike missions into
the heart of the empire as long as he keeps >6 hexes away from any major air bases (Zeke range). If Andy
plays like I think he will only 1-2 cv's and a couple of cvls will remain of the KB + 5 cve's. 3 new cv's
will arrive within 3 months or so. Could be enough to create a quality carrier formation - there are still
ample amounts of expert CAGs left. So the battle is far from lost - it just became more complicated.

The invasion of the Palaus and Marianas would be the high point of this campaign Jap carriers or not. The ability
to make large amounts of LBA available in the right place at the right time would be the crucial element. I've always
stated that it would be suicide to engage the US carriers mano el mano (and now I had to show you why ). Now Japan
HAS to concentrate on the only valid strategy: how to make LCU and LBA defeat carrier and amph power. In reality he KB
becomes a Democles sword by 1944!...so much to loose and so little to gain!

So here's what I would like to suggest: I try to save the remains of the fleet and re-organize according to new doctrines and
hire Ken as Second in Command. Whenever I run out of steam or time he can take over for me and vice versa!
This would make it simpler for me to concentrate on my new priorities and remain in the game. At the same time
the game could be played to the end: something which has always been one of my foremost objectives

What do you think about this Ken? Pauk has also offered his services - (thx Pauk).

Suggestions/advice from the rest of you: could this work?