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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/13/2004 8:45:06 PM   
Hirohito

 

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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

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ORIGINAL: medck

I don't mean to second-guess Dude--well, not too much!--but the carriers lost around NZ and perhaps the 100,000 troops could have been usedin Malaysia, Singapore and India. The carrier strike force could have covered a lot of operations in the Bay of Bengal while the army finished off the Brits. With your success in China, that would make it difficult for the allies in Burma/Bangladesh/India and you could perhaps have replicated your major land success.


All those Allied units in New Zealand would also be free for action elsewhere. They could be sent to India as well.

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My guess is that Dude got a bit lucky at Pearl Harbour when he lost zero carriers (I think Mogami lost 4 when he tried to take it).


Luck? Actually the other way around. I now know that zero carriers can be lost taking Pearl Harbor. Just take the smaller Hawaiian islands with troops and build up the airfields. No reason at all to risk any carriers getting in range of Pearl Harbor. What is the point of moving carriers close to Pearl Harbor after the intial attack?

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However, that luck ran out in NZ. That level of Japanese carrier loss is probably about right for such aggressive Japanese operations in the face of LBA and allied carriers. The British are weaker, so the losses might not be as substantial -- and the gains from Burma and India are a whole lot more than from NZ. You could secure one side of the map!


If anyone wants detailed instructions on how to take New Zealand, I'll give them to you. There are two tactics. Come at the place directly by landing on the north island or indirectly by landing on the south island.

If you go north, you need to go in very early with one division and one brigade or wait for three divisions if the Allies get the NZ division before you arrive. Post two or three carriers on each side of the islands. Land two hex behind Wellington or Auckland to avoid the coastal guns. Now you have won the battle.

If you go south, you'll not need more than one division for the initial landing. Land at Christchurch. Build up the airfield and port. Destroy Wellington. Land a couple of divisions and win the battle.



You should be second guessing dude, he's clearly inept. PH is easy to take. You first take all the undefended bases around it, along with Midway, Johnston Island, and Palmyra. But after you take these bases you actually move AIRCRAFT onto them. And you move massive IJN forces into the area to support the carrier raiders. After the first attacks on PH you switch the missions of the carrier planes to naval attack. If you play this right one of two things will happen, either the allied player will flee or you will trounce the USN. Either way PH is cut off from supplies. Now you can take it. BUT, you have to land several divisions, armored units that you released from the home islands and armored units that you released from the Kwantang army, lots of engineers, and HQ units.

If you don't take PH and you don't inflict high casualties on the USN at PH and continue to do so,and there is no reason why you can't, you will have trouble later.

I can't even begin to fathon how you throw away an entire army at NZ.

Obviously the details of following this strategy were not thought through. As I have always said these strategies take PLANNING and preparation and you have to plan to the last ship, last plane, last soldier.

I still feel that this ineptitude is on purpose to discredit me.

Hirohito

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/13/2004 9:35:09 PM   
Zeta16


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Status: offline 		So what did he do that was so bad, he killed me at PH, however if you are going to land there you will lose a lot of ships. Remember you can not stop every ship I send into PH with supplies and they can repair airfields quickly. He did take all of the bases around PH first. However if you commit the japaneses airforce to major long term battles they will decline in fast order. If I have supplies in PH I can replace planes with better pilots than he can bring. That is why he has lost so many planes and combat ships. He lost his best pilots and his replacements can't compare to mine. That is Japan's problem, you can only attack at the start were you have such a great advantage the other player can not hurt you. If you fight a lot of big air battles at the start you can never catch up. You need time to train up pilots and bulid reserves. In a all out offensive you can not do this. Just the Op loses will degrade your units fast. He has done the best he could have done, but things have caught up to everywhere except China. It is now hard for him to come close to many of my bases with ships, because they will be sunk by air power. He has lost 6 cv's, 3cvl's, and 3cve's because of the degrading of his pilots skills. Not really his fault just a by product of an all out Japanese commitment. Yes it will take me a while to make my moves witht the allies, but once I get aircraft into an area he is finished in that area except China and Burma were he has a great edge in troops. He has no offensive punch in his navy any more and he has lost like 1300 zero's, so he has to be really hurting in his pilot skill levels. How long will he hold out who knows, he will should take all of china and then move those troops to other places. Will it be in time, at this point I am not afraid of any Japanese airbase any where in the Pacific.

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/14/2004 12:33:24 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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ORIGINAL: Hirohito

You should be second guessing dude, he's clearly inept. PH is easy to take. You first take all the undefended bases around it, along with Midway, Johnston Island, and Palmyra. But after you take these bases you actually move AIRCRAFT onto them. And you move massive IJN forces into the area to support the carrier raiders. After the first attacks on PH you switch the missions of the carrier planes to naval attack. If you play this right one of two things will happen, either the allied player will flee or you will trounce the USN. Either way PH is cut off from supplies. Now you can take it. BUT, you have to land several divisions, armored units that you released from the home islands and armored units that you released from the Kwantang army, lots of engineers, and HQ units.


LOL, this is basically exactly what I did. I did cut him off from supply and placed several hundred aircraft around PH. That's why I took the place so easily. I still lost several dozen APs though, there isn't anything that can be done about that.

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If you don't take PH and you don't inflict high casualties on the USN at PH and continue to do so,and there is no reason why you can't, you will have trouble later.


The entire US fleet was basically sunk at PH. Zeta has lost 11 battleships so far, all of them of the slow US variety.

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I can't even begin to fathon how you throw away an entire army at NZ.


It's easy. The Allies get the New Zealand division pretty quickly. Then they can slowly send in more reinforcements over the months. It became a situation where both sides were sending reinforcements and the Allies have the advantage because they are on the defensive. Also, it's basically impossible to send resupply convoys because of the coastal guns and LBA.

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Obviously the details of following this strategy were not thought through. As I have always said these strategies take PLANNING and preparation and you have to plan to the last ship, last plane, last soldier.


OK, show us your planning "to the last ship, last plane, and last soldier".

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I still feel that this ineptitude is on purpose to discredit me.


Yes, that's been the plan all along.

< Message edited by WiTP_Dude -- 11/13/2004 6:13:58 PM >

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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/14/2004 12:34:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hirohito

I see what is happening. You run a goof ball campaign and call it "hirohito style" so that you can discredit my strategies. When I get my computer at the end of november I'll show you how to run this campaign.



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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/14/2004 1:08:34 AM   
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I would prefer to discredit an allied plan now please. Do you have any plans for the allies?? An early invasion of Japan perhaps.

< Message edited by moses -- 11/13/2004 5:17:55 PM >

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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/14/2004 1:18:08 AM   
EUBanana


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Status: offline 		Yeesh. And Hirohito wonders why people attack him?

Someone needs a courtesy crash course...

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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/14/2004 1:23:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Yeesh. And Hirohito wonders why people attack him?

Someone needs a courtesy crash course...


Ah, leave him alone, he's obviously some punk kid who needs to get out more and walk the dog.

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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/14/2004 2:19:03 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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Status: offline 		The match has slowed down to a crawl as winter has hit the Aleutians. Allies busy planning their 1943 offensive. Japanese dig in at various islands.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/16/42

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TF 1142 encounters mine field at Cold Bay (105,35)

Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield

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TF 1142 encounters mine field at Cold Bay (105,35)

Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield

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Night Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Manpower hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 12


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 6


No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 65th Brigade, at 61,139


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 92,36


Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 7


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shiratsuyu
TK Ken'yo Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 92,36


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Kikuzuki

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38
Enemy troop pockets take a while to finish off.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72829 troops, 566 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 44980 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
656 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Allied ground losses:
721 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11451 troops, 356 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 246550 troops, 122 guns, 42 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
228 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,40
Another troop pocket in the making.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 47856 troops, 482 guns, 258 vehicles

Defending force 46014 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1484 casualties reported
Guns lost 43
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
178 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wellington

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 58998 troops, 503 guns, 150 vehicles

Defending force 43034 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 30 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
671 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
645 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/17/42


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TF 1142 encounters mine field at Cold Bay (105,35)

Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield

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Night Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-24D Liberator x 4


No Allied losses

Oil hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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TF 47 troops unloading over beach at Pamakasan, 24,66


Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported

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TF 47 troops unloading over beach at Pamakasan, 24,66


Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 34
P-40E Warhawk x 20
B-17E Fortress x 102


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
340 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 61,139


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 9


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 16000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38
Several thousand Chinese surrender.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72362 troops, 547 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 44138 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
740 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

Allied ground losses:
6940 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11337 troops, 354 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 247067 troops, 125 guns, 42 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
98 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wellington
Not too bad a result given the circumstances.

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 58539 troops, 483 guns, 150 vehicles

Defending force 42136 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
617 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
648 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1

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Amen! - 11/14/2004 9:01:14 AM   
rhondabrwn


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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

Yeesh. And Hirohito wonders why people attack him?

Someone needs a courtesy crash course...


That's the understatement of the day! His plans are interesting but is the attitude he displays some kind of macho roleplay or what? It certainly isn't flattering!

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/14/2004 11:00:30 AM   
duckenf

 

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I can't even begin to fathon how you throw away an entire army at NZ.


I thought the PH invasion went perfectly -- the taking of nearby bases, the LBA attacks, the limited exposure of the fleet. I do think that he might have lost a carrier or two, but Dude put his fleet in a position where he could get lucky. Standing toe-to-toe in PH will lose carriers no doubt about it. Going for the nearby islands gives you a good chance at not doing that.

The problem with NZ was that Dude didn't do that. The carriers lingered, there were few (if any) nearby bases to provide heavy LBA attacks and the resupply convoys, some with carrier escorts, got shredded. If NZ had been more like PH, then Dude could be coming up with new names for Wellington and Auckland. I'm sure he has figured a way to do it better next time, but this time he unfortunately put himself in a position where his fleet could be unlucky.

He has performed best in China and that is often overlooked. I'd predict that if he wins this thing (and I doubt he will) it will be because of his successes in China--and then Burma, Malaysia and India built on the China success--not the Pacific. However, there is some rough terrain on the way to India after beating China. That's why the fleet could have been helpful in the west -- a more rapid invasion of India by sea, for instance. The allies weren't going to move out of NZ before 1943 anyways and 150,000 Japanese troops in Ceylon/India could do a lot of damage.

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/14/2004 7:17:53 PM   
Zeta16


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Status: offline 		There is no way now he can do a sea invasion of India. I have the whole British fleet intact, with over 400 heavy bombers in that part of the world.

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/14/2004 8:23:57 PM   
IKerensky

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Dude,

I am just wondering if, in order to be able to take Chunking , you'd better keep all thoses chineses pocket alive. If I read correctly the manual and docs, every killed chinese unit will be rebuild for free at 1/3 strenght at Chunking after 3 month ( or is it 6 .. ).

Anyway, it sound like you are currently giving Chungink reinforcement. Perhaps that is the reason why it is nearly impossible to take...

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/15/2004 5:19:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zeta16

There is no way now he can do a sea invasion of India. I have the whole British fleet intact, with over 400 heavy bombers in that part of the world.


This is probably true but Medck has a point that they divisions could have been used better elsewhere. Perhaps taking out Malay and Singapore.

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RE: Amen! - 11/15/2004 5:20:58 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

That's the understatement of the day! His plans are interesting but is the attitude he displays some kind of macho roleplay or what? It certainly isn't flattering!


Well, everyone has written things they wished they had not written. Hopefully Hirohito can move forward now and attempt to prove these concepts he has.

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/15/2004 5:23:05 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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ORIGINAL: KERENSKY

Hi Dude,

I am just wondering if, in order to be able to take Chunking , you'd better keep all thoses chineses pocket alive. If I read correctly the manual and docs, every killed chinese unit will be rebuild for free at 1/3 strenght at Chunking after 3 month ( or is it 6 .. ).

Anyway, it sound like you are currently giving Chungink reinforcement. Perhaps that is the reason why it is nearly impossible to take...


I don't think Chungking can last three more months. After the destruction of these pockets, I can then move several more divisions to Chungking. I'll have 500,000 men not to mention tons of tanks and artillery.

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/15/2004 7:29:09 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/20/42

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Night Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 9
B-24D Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Oil hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 19
B-17E Fortress x 102


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 65th Brigade, at 61,139


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 135,108

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
PG Charleston
AK Manini
AK Mana

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73007 troops, 537 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 40101 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
716 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
473 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11371 troops, 356 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 248118 troops, 123 guns, 44 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
234 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 44,29

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1502 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 42 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wellington

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 57071 troops, 431 guns, 150 vehicles

Defending force 40350 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
350 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1







AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/21/42


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Night Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 4


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 67
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5
Ki-36 Ida x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 92

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
A6M3 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 14
CW-21B Demon x 12
Brewster 339D x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 22 destroyed, 9 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
Brewster 339D: 5 destroyed

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
1 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 61,139


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 8


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing at 16000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72590 troops, 522 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 39600 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
577 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Allied ground losses:
566 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11393 troops, 354 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 248368 troops, 123 guns, 44 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
187 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wellington

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 57525 troops, 444 guns, 151 vehicles

Defending force 40136 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
224 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Post #: 496
RE: NZ Instructions - 11/15/2004 9:14:15 AM   
duckenf

 

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ORIGINAL: Zeta16

There is no way now he can do a sea invasion of India. I have the whole British fleet intact, with over 400 heavy bombers in that part of the world.


That's my point exactly. If he had the carriers he lost in NZ, he could sweep the British fleet aside and thin out your front lines some in Burma as you had to at least think he could invade India by sea. Now you have everything and he has an incredibly reduced IJN. That is the strategic failure of the NZ campaign.

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Post #: 497
Last NZ Force Wiped Out - 11/17/2004 5:44:45 AM   
WiTP_Dude


Posts: 1434
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TF 33 encounters mine field at Rabaul (61,88)

Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
AP Nichiren Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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TF 1050 encounters mine field at Adak Island (98,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Bayfield

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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
LB-30 Liberator x 14
B-24D Liberator x 6


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Oil hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
8 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,53


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Ryoyu Maru #21
AP Sanko Maru, Shell hits 8

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 72890 troops, 499 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 37392 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
223 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11386 troops, 353 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 247061 troops, 110 guns, 34 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 45,29

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7245 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1218 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wellington

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1635 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 78672 troops, 599 guns, 151 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)


Japanese ground losses:
190 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wellington
Japs finally finished off.

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73872 troops, 599 guns, 151 vehicles

Defending force 1380 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 2531 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
10163 casualties reported
Guns lost 22





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/29/42


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ASW attack at 56,43

Japanese Ships
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Asagao
DD Sanae
DD Numakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Kamikaze
DD Sazanami
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

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Night Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13
LB-30 Liberator x 13
B-24D Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 56,43

Japanese Ships
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Asagao
DD Sanae
DD Numakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Kamikaze
DD Sazanami
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 40
P-40E Warhawk x 18
B-17E Fortress x 105


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
436 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73384 troops, 498 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 37238 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
127 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11339 troops, 352 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 246956 troops, 109 guns, 33 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
576 casualties reported

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RE: Junyo Sinks - 11/17/2004 6:23:23 AM   
Tankerace


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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hirohito

I see what is happening. You run a goof ball campaign and call it "hirohito style" so that you can discredit my strategies. When I get my computer at the end of november I'll show you how to run this campaign.





Let me get a few things straight here. You come up with all these "brilliant plans", and then the only person that actually tries it (and doesn't succeed, as 95% of the people on this board predicted) you call him inept.

Sir, you are the first person I have ever seen in a wargaming community to ever call another person inept. Not only should you be indebted to Witp_dude for actually trying your screwball theory, you should also finally realize that most of the forum members on this board know what they are talking about.

I do hope that in the future you can choose your words more carefully. The person you call inept today might give you a good thrashing in a PBEM game, and if they are inept, that doesn't speak well for you does it?

< Message edited by Tankerace -- 11/16/2004 10:27:54 PM >

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Post #: 499
RE: NZ Instructions - 11/17/2004 6:50:40 AM   
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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/17/2004 6:56:22 AM   
kellyc

 

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Status: offline 		And to think that Witp_dude is doing two separate pbem games based off of this guy's strategy, he'd be alittle nicer. Nothing like investing time and energy only to get insulted. In my opinion Witp_dude did a great job and sure made for some exciting and tense reading. I only hope he is getting as much enjoyment out of the game that I am reading about it.

Sincerely and respectfully
Kelly

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Dude is on the brink of success - 11/17/2004 11:21:26 AM   
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quote:



Let me get a few things straight here. You come up with all these "brilliant plans", and then the only person that actually tries it (and doesn't succeed, as 95% of the people on this board predicted) you call him inept.



What is most amazing is that Dude hasn't failed in this AAR. The Hirohito stratgey has failed in the Pacific and Dude gave it his best shot. However, in China it is a different story -- Dude is running rampant and this is the one area there is little mention of from Hirohito. If Dude wins this thing, it will be in spite of the Hirohito strategy and all due to his own skill in running the ground war in Asia. He still has a long way to go, but he does have his act together and is far from inept.

And I thought the PH invasion was pretty flawless; I was sceptical that it could be done, but Dude certainly proved to me that it is within the realm of possibility for a good player facing a good (but outnumbered and initially disadvantaged) opponent. Zeta should get some credit, too, for hanging tough and knowing when to fight - he broke the back of the Hirohito strategy by knowing that NZ was the place to throw his resources. His bombers have been having a field day over Hanoi and he has (hopefully) had almost 12 months to build up Indian and Malaysian defenses. How long will it take to wrap up China? Will Malaysia/India be another PH/China or another NZ? I am quite interested in seeing how it goes.

< Message edited by medck -- 11/17/2004 9:21:56 AM >

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RE: Dude is on the brink of success - 11/17/2004 8:43:37 PM   
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RE: Dude is on the brink of success - 11/17/2004 9:52:23 PM   
Tankerace


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Status: offline 		Sorry, late at night, I should have worded it better. The fact that Dude has done so well is a credit to him. I, like many others, predicted the strategy would fail. Granted, it gives Japan breathing room when the Allies come roaring back in '43, but it does not win the war.

By saying it did not succeed, I was referring to the strategy, not to Dude himself. I for one was impressed at how far Dude was able to carry it, and I think he can make '44 and '45 very difficult for Zeta. Who knows, he might even be able to prolong the war past '46 (assuming WitP would model this).

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Post #: 504
RE: Dude is on the brink of success - 11/18/2004 7:22:52 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/02/42

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Night Air attack on Miri , at 31,57


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 8
B-24D Liberator x 5


No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 70,44

Japanese Ships
PG Chitose Maru

Allied Ships
SS Scorpion

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Day Air attack on 4th Ind. Brigade, at 40,32


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 6


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 21
P-40E Warhawk x 13
B-17E Fortress x 56


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 100th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-48 Lily x 6
Ki-49 Helen x 6
Ki-36 Ida x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 57th Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 33
Ki-48 Lily x 18
Ki-49 Helen x 13
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
G3M Nell x 11
Ki-48 Lily x 9

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 12
CW-21B Demon x 6
Brewster 339D x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 4 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
TK Merula, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,61


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meigen Maru, Shell hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38
These results aren't good.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 74938 troops, 519 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 37176 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 26 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2332 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1423 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking
Chinese have managed to build two more forts despite lack of supplies.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42327 troops, 577 guns, 285 vehicles

Defending force 245071 troops, 96 guns, 31 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
873 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2578 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at 42,40

Japanese Shock attack
Japanese suffer big losses but win the battle.

Attacking force 41927 troops, 381 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 31851 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2022 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 46,29
Unit with no equipment refuses to surrender. Someone fix this.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7200 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 610 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Guiuan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 450 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guiuan base !!!






AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/03/42


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Night Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 7


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Ind. Brigade, at 40,32


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Burma Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,62


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meigen Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet
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Sub attack at 57,44

Japanese Ships
AK Toba Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pogy


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Ground combat at 43,38
Forget it, I'll just let them retreat since they won't surrender.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 72288 troops, 483 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 35955 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1694 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
410 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12364 troops, 393 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 240925 troops, 86 guns, 27 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
424 casualties reported

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Post #: 505
RE: NZ Instructions - 11/18/2004 7:25:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kellyc

And to think that Witp_dude is doing two separate pbem games based off of this guy's strategy, he'd be alittle nicer. Nothing like investing time and energy only to get insulted. In my opinion Witp_dude did a great job and sure made for some exciting and tense reading. I only hope he is getting as much enjoyment out of the game that I am reading about it.


Currently I am only playing one game of WiTP. I do not want to try Hirohito strategy again. Maybe Hirohito-lite.

< Message edited by WiTP_Dude -- 11/18/2004 12:25:24 AM >

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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/18/2004 7:27:44 AM   
Tankerace


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RE: NZ Instructions - 11/18/2004 8:15:17 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Get burned one-too many times did you?


Yeah, Hirohito wasn't too much help other than providing a vague outline. A Hirohito-lite plan might work better:

1. Don't invade Anchorage. This kind of took care of itself in my match but the original Hirohito plan called for invading Anchorage. This is not a good idea as it just makes your supply lines that much longer. Dutch Harbor should be enough.

2. Don't invade New Zealand. Too far away from anything. Take Noumea though as this will help delay the Allied advance up into the Solomans.

3. Take out Malay and Singapore at the start. Skip the Phillippines and put five or six divisions into this area. Should fall pretty quickly. Then these units can be moved east for the invasion of Pearl Harbor.

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One Year Anniversary - 11/20/2004 5:30:28 AM   
WiTP_Dude


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Status: offline 		Japanese celebrate with large event at Mogami Harbor.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/06/42

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TF 31 encounters mine field at Kiska Island (92,35)

Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru
PC Hachijo

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Night Air attack on Hanoi , at 36,37


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14


No Allied losses

Manpower hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 30
P-40E Warhawk x 10
B-17E Fortress x 80


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 94,36


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 7
P-38G Lightning x 18
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PC Hachijo
PG Zuiko Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Burma Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Yachiyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 32,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-27 Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
TK Eiyo Maru
TK Mitu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet
3 x Brewster 339D attacking at 100 feet

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Ground combat at 43,38
Japanese allow Chinese to flee since they weren't surrendering.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 71533 troops, 482 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 35725 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 38 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
577 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Allied ground losses:
640 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 41,40
Another stack of Chinese I keep pushing around.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19702 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 23268 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 47,30
Japanese chase ghost and rumors.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7250 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 554 to 1



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/42


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Night Air attack on Miri , at 31,57
Oil hits annoying, can't do anything until "Operation Kick Zeta out of SE Asia" beings.

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 15
B-24D Liberator x 6


No Allied losses

Oil hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Ind. Brigade, at 40,32


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 6


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 28,37


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 38
P-40E Warhawk x 22
B-17E Fortress x 100


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

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