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RE: Pause - 12/31/2004 10:07:29 PM   
mogami


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Status: offline 		Hi, I'll try to find out what is going on as quickly as I can. I am running the game in the background to arrive at your time frame and see what happens.

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RE: Pause - 12/31/2004 10:24:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, I'll try to find out what is going on as quickly as I can. I am running the game in the background to arrive at your time frame and see what happens.


Thank you, hopefully this isn't too much trouble. Maybe Matrix has a better way to test for these kind of problems available?

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RE: The End is Near - 12/31/2004 11:41:45 PM   
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I'm not convinced: from the casualty reports, they're causing even more grief than the minefields. Shouldn't the air and naval bombardments have neutralized the CD guns?

There aren't any coastal guns and there are very few casualities.


Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 1134
TF 1134 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


138 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Detroit


Allied ground losses:
209 casualties reported

Oh really? Then what was responsible for the above, and many more like it??

BTW, the "Detroit" was a CL, one of the Omaha class with mostly caissoned 6-inchers.

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RE: The End is Near - 12/31/2004 11:48:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

quote:

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

I'm not convinced: from the casualty reports, they're causing even more grief than the minefields. Shouldn't the air and naval bombardments have neutralized the CD guns?

There aren't any coastal guns and there are very few casualities.


Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 1134
TF 1134 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


138 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Detroit


Allied ground losses:
209 casualties reported

Oh really? Then what was responsible for the above, and many more like it??

BTW, the "Detroit" was a CL, one of the Omaha class with mostly caissoned 6-inchers.




IT got sunk very early in the game, So it came back as a CA.

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RE: The End is Near - 1/1/2005 12:37:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

I'm not convinced: from the casualty reports, they're causing even more grief than the minefields. Shouldn't the air and naval bombardments have neutralized the CD guns?

There aren't any coastal guns and there are very few casualities.


Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 1134
TF 1134 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


138 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Detroit


Allied ground losses:
209 casualties reported

Oh really? Then what was responsible for the above, and many more like it??

BTW, the "Detroit" was a CL, one of the Omaha class with mostly caissoned 6-inchers.


Mostly LCU artillery and the like. You have the ask one of the developers what gets classified as a "coastal gun". Look at the Midway invasion, there were thousands of "coastal guns" listed there and only maybe 50 or so where legit.

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RE: The End is Near - 1/1/2005 12:39:43 AM   
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RE: The End is Near - 1/1/2005 3:08:24 AM   
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Those 209 losses were just op losses from landing. Remember you take these losses even when landing on unoccupied beaches.


That many?? I count over ten groups of such losses -- way too many for men stepping on sharp rocks. And getting back to my first point, naval and air bombardment should be even more damaging to LCU artillery than emplaced coastal guns. Maybe the fire suppression routine could use some tweaking?

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RE: The End is Near - 1/1/2005 3:14:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can ask Zeta16 how many losses he actually had. My guess is that they were mostly disruptions rather than lost equipment. He took PH in only four or five days so his units really weren't in too bad of a shape.

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I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/6/2005 12:22:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do hope that the problem can be corrected as this is my favorite AAR. I spent X-Mas in internet isolation and found myself wondering on New Year's Day whether Zeta had gotten the nerve to go for Mogami Harbor (Zeta Harbor, I mean)! Are you really sure you need those 400 planes though Dude? At this point with the skilled pilot shortage you could say that their disappearance has robbed Zeta of 400 VPs!!!

And Hirohito could have been quite happy, because it looks like the ALLIES could be pulling a Hirohito strategy in 1944. Sure Dude has the big invincible army coming from China (well, that's the propaganda), but it is on a narrow supply line and the Allies appear to have total naval and air superiority. Zeta has the ability to land 100,000 troops pretty much anywhere he wants in the Pacific and Indian Ocean shorelines, and dude sure can't defend everything from hong Kong down to Singapore and over to Calcutta. That 500,000 man army looks like it would be ripe for having its supply line cut. Then it fights like a 125,000 man army and Zeta's Commonwealth Army can probably beat it. A strategic withdrawal towards Kirachi with the 500,000 man army in pursuit and then *wham* 75,000 Americans land near Calcutta, 25,000 Australians land in 3 or 4 groups elsewhere along the rail line and Dude is looking like the Ottoman Empire.

I think that this AAR has revealed there are some occupation limit short-comings -- the Japanese should have to garrison EVERY hex in China (and Russia) that they want supply to go through, not just the cities. Look at the problems the US is having in occuppying Iraq against the insurgents. 120,000+ US troops and they still have trouble with the supply lines. In China in the 1930s and 1940s it would have been a lot worse as the Japanese had less body and vehicle armor and their vehicles weren't as all-terrain as is currently the case and the guerrillas were much more extensive (and very nationalistic in their hatred of the Japanese; plus the old, failed regime of CKS was not too unpopular in contrast to Saddam). Garrison duty would have been the name of the game for japan in China and mainland Asia and that is not really replicated. If it were up to me, I'd put every japanese unit out of supply that couldn't trace a supply path back through other Japanese units in controlled hexes. That way at least the RR and roads would also get garrisoned. Same with the USSR, Malaysia, Burma, India and Vietnam.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/6/2005 1:28:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Zeke groups will come with pilots of 60 experience plus the planes are better armored. Not having several hundred of them is going to be a limitation. I'm mean if it's over and the Zekes don't matter, why even bother playing?

Yes, the Allies can land somewhere to cut the supply lines. However what happens when I move 15 divisions with 99 experience via railroad to the spot where they landed? Zeta will have problems unless he can gather a massive amount of divisions for the beachhead. Seems like a waste of Allied manpower when they would be better used for invading Japan.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/6/2005 12:42:02 PM   
duckenf

 

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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

Yes, the Allies can land somewhere to cut the supply lines. However what happens when I move 15 divisions with 99 experience via railroad to the spot where they landed? Zeta will have problems unless he can gather a massive amount of divisions for the beachhead. Seems like a waste of Allied manpower when they would be better used for invading Japan.


Invading Japan might well be a better option for Zeta -- although the strategic bombing campaign would give him needed victory points and soften up the defenders prior to the invasion.

However, my point was that the allies have some opportunities for curtailing your invasion of India. I would think it would be a Hirohito-in-reverse strategy and the allies need not wait around for your 15 divisions to arrive, they could just hit some other point on the supply line like Lawrence of Arabia. But your 15 divisions might have to fight your way to the allies; a few hundred men along the rail hexes leading to the invasion hex would mean slower movement for your 15 divisions and more time for the allies to either withdraw or bolster their forces. Plus a small landing behind your 15 divisions and they, too, might find themselves out of supply. But my guess is the allies withdraw and land elsewhere -- they can land anywhere from Vladivostock to Singapore and then all over Burma/India (the key supply route). That's a lot of ground to cover. And who's to say a landing in Vladivostock isn't a feint to attract your core divisions far from the actual landing in Singapore?

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/6/2005 9:04:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's a waste of Allied assets and will buy more time for Japan to get better deal in the final surrender terms. I encourage Zeta to do this.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/13/2005 1:47:47 AM   
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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/13/2005 3:10:48 AM   
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<poke, poke> I take it with no answer regarding the missing Zekes, this game is dead?


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say it aint so!!!!!

I was really enjoying this one.....someone finally comming to the end

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/13/2005 3:12:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no clue if they found anything. Ending the game is up to Dude.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/13/2005 4:27:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no idea. Don't know if it will be fixed next week, next month, or not at all. I can't go on any longer because there isn't much potential for Japan to have air cover without lots of Zekes.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/20/2005 8:10:25 PM   
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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/20/2005 9:43:42 PM   
Zeta16


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Status: offline 		We are still waiting for an answer. I don't think anyone has gotten back to Dude in a long time. Kind of sad that no one will help him. If it can't be resloved I offered to play like a month ahead and not really attack of anything to see if they start to come or not. If that doesn't work maybe some can pick the game up from him and play. Or I can just get his password and see what was really going on. I am hoping for the best, but that I think is a long shot.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/20/2005 9:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		The game will move ahead again soon even if no information is forthcoming from the secret cabal known as Matrix. If the problem doesn't fix itself eventually, the game will have to be scraped.

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RE: I hope the End Isn't Near! - 1/20/2005 9:48:51 PM   
WiTP_Dude


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ORIGINAL: Zeta16

We are still waiting for an answer. I don't think anyone has gotten back to Dude in a long time. Kind of sad that no one will help him. If it can't be resloved I offered to play like a month ahead and not really attack of anything to see if they start to come or not. If that doesn't work maybe some can pick the game up from him and play. Or I can just get his password and see what was really going on. I am hoping for the best, but that I think is a long shot.


Well, if it gets to the point that the Zeke issue can't be fixed, I have no problem handing the game over to some willing party. They should realize though that they have very few good planes at this point and the Zeke is the major aircraft of the Japanese arsenal. Mainly all that is left other than the Zekes are some Oscars, Tonys, and a few night fighters.

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Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/21/2005 5:50:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		The game continues but the Zekes still aren't showing up. If someone wants to volunteer to continue without Zekes, they can email me or send a private message.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/07/43

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Night Time Surface Combat at 26,64
Some transports are sneaking through the DEI, I don't know where they are going.

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
CL Sendai, Shell hits 2
DD Numakaze
DD Asagao

Allied Ships
AK Delawarean, Shell hits 1
AK Honolulan, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Montanan
AK Oregonian
AK Virginian
AK Trieste
AK West Cawthon
AK West Isleta
AK Florence Luckenbach
AK Don Jose, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Kainalu
AK Empire Audacity, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Waterhen
AK Empire Ocean
AK Empire Grenfell
AK Empire Parsons
AK Empire Homer
AK Empire Clive
AK Empire Gilbert
AK Empire Wyclif
AK Empire Trust
AK Empire Ranger
AK Empire Dryden
AK Empire Johnson
AK Empire Pibroch
AK Empire Ballad
AK City of Manchester, Shell hits 1
AK Ben Nevis
AK Deslock
AK Federlock
AK Hatterlock
AK Tantalus
AK Vitorlock
AK Tjikarang
AK Toendjoek

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Day Air attack on 1st Reserve Tank Regiment, at 36,24


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 5
Hudson I x 9
Beaufighter VIC x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 20th Division, at 33,26


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 9
Beaufighter VIC x 8


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 5
Beaufort V-IX x 23
P-40E Warhawk x 4


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 18
Liberator VI x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 33,26


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 7
P-40N Warhawk x 4


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Brewster 339D bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Tantalus, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63
Sallies attempt to sink the transports.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Trieste
AK Empire Pibroch, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK West Cawthon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Tjikarang
AK Empire Dryden
AK Tantalus, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Honolulan, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Wyclif, Bomb hits 2
AK City of Manchester

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Vitorlock, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Deslock
AK Tjikarang

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Waterhen, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Ballad
AK Empire Ocean, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Tjikarang, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Ki-21 Sally x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Wyclif
AK Tantalus, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK West Cawthon, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/08/43


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Day Air attack on 1st Reserve Tank Regiment, at 36,24


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 5
Hudson I x 9
Beaufighter VIC x 5


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Division, at 33,26


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 8


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,61

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Tjikarang, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Clive, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Ballad, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Ki-21 Sally x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Homer, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK West Isleta
AK Empire Clive, on fire
AK Hatterlock, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Oregonian, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Florence Luckenbach, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,61

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Tantalus, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Trust, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Ranger, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ben Nevis
AK City of Manchester, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Florence Luckenbach, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Oregonian, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat at 24,61
Some Japanese ships get a nice and safe work out.

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Oyodo
CL Naka
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Naganami
DD Yukikaze
DD Sanae

Allied Ships
AK Empire Ocean, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
AK Tjikarang, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat at 24,61

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Oyodo
CL Naka
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Naganami
DD Yukikaze
DD Sanae

Allied Ships
AK Honolulan, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK West Cawthon, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Empire Wyclif, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tantalus, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/21/2005 6:05:52 AM   
Zeta16


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Status: offline 		I guess that is what happens when you have not play this PBEM in over 3 weeks. You forget somethings

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RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/21/2005 10:06:15 PM   
WiTP_Dude


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/11/43

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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 6
Beaufighter VIC x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60
Sallies still attacking transports.

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Clive, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,71

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK City of Manchester
AK Empire Parsons, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 47

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Pibroch, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Dryden, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Parsons, on fire
AK Empire Ballad
AK Ben Nevis
AK Trieste, Bomb hits 2
AK Toendjoek
AK Delawarean
AK Empire Johnson
AK Vitorlock
AK Empire Homer

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,67

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Federlock, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,71

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Delawarean, Bomb hits 1
AK Empire Johnson
AK Ben Nevis
AK Empire Grenfell, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,71

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Vitorlock, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Montanan
AK Empire Homer, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Gilbert, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ben Nevis
AK Empire Ballad
AK Empire Grenfell, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Trieste
AK Empire Pibroch, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/12/43


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Day Air attack on 1st Reserve Tank Regiment, at 36,24


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 18
Hudson I x 11
Beaufighter VIC x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 2
Beaufighter VIC x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 33,25


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 2
Beaufort V-IX x 22
P-40N Warhawk x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Clive, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,69

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Federlock, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK West Isleta, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Deslock, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/22/2005 2:25:16 AM   
Catphish

 

Posts: 31
Joined: 4/1/2004
From: columbus, ohio
Status: offline 		Hey Zeta16

I just moved to the columbus area I do not have WITP yet (I really want flashpoint ) but have UV.
I have a number of different wargames both board and computer my email is cgallaugher@wowway.com maybe we could get a game going

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Post #: 894
RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/22/2005 9:08:27 PM   
WiTP_Dude


Posts: 1434
Joined: 7/3/2004
Status: offline 		Player still needed who wants to go ahead with no Zekes.

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Post #: 895
RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/27/2005 1:05:41 AM   
WiTP_Dude


Posts: 1434
Joined: 7/3/2004
Status: offline 		This game is now offically over I guess. You can PM Zeta16 if you want to continue as the Japanese.

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Post #: 896
RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/27/2005 1:19:02 AM   
Gen.Hoepner


Posts: 3645
Joined: 9/4/2001
From: italy
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

Player still needed who wants to go ahead with no Zekes.


Still no answers from Matrix support?

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Post #: 897
RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/27/2005 1:23:17 AM   
WiTP_Dude


Posts: 1434
Joined: 7/3/2004
Status: offline 		Other people had a similar problem and it couldn't be fixed either. Find the "Zero black hole" thread. It's probably just bad luck of some sort.

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Post #: 898
RE: Games Continues... For a Little Bit? - 1/27/2005 1:29:22 AM   
Gen.Hoepner


Posts: 3645
Joined: 9/4/2001
From: italy
Status: offline 		That's a HUGE problem!!! It means that none of the games can go after 1943....this is a must to be fixed!

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Post #: 899
RE : Zekes - 1/27/2005 4:58:03 AM   
herbieh

 

Posts: 804
Joined: 8/30/2002
From: Sydney Australia
Status: offline 		I might have missed something, but details on Zeke problem seem to be a bit scarce

Are they just missing?, or organising?
With a very late seizure of the DEI, and a very early rampant Allied fleet cutting them of from Japan, is there any actual oil and Heavy industry to produce them?

Way I read it way back when the Horatio way was floated a lot of people warned that this would happen and we would see a mid 43 finish

Seems to me just the chickens coming home to roost
Of course more info on problem might prove me wrong?

Anyone else up to mid 43 and not recieving Zekes.?(or up to 43 and getting them!)

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