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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 7:48:20 AM   
ZOOMIE1980

 

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ORIGINAL: max_h

another reason why english sucks.




lets make a fully logical language the world language - german!!!


Yes, it does.

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 8:00:14 AM   
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My pet peeve is when people use "should of," "could of," or "would of" (which make absolutely no sense) instead of should have, could have, or would have.


Or, indeed, should've, could've or would've ... but, I will admit, the "phoneticisation" that this represents was, sadly, all too common some years ago here in Oz High Schools. Seems to have died out, though - and I'd like to think I played a small part in helping it do so!

Allot/alot is a pet peeve. too.

As is ...

Little Sally: "Can I go to the bathroom?"

Me: "I don't know, can you?"

Little Sally (after scrunching up brain and thinking): "May I go to the bathroom?"

Me: Sorry, we don't have any Bathtubs at this school.

Little Sally: "May I go to the toilet?"

Me: "Yes, of course, Sally. Why didn't you ask in the first place?"

(NB: Can = "am I physically able to". May = "have I got permission to". "Bathroom" = an americanism, not to be encouraged in Australian schools, though, of course, OK in the US)

The kids hate it ... the common response is "Oooh! You're just like Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss XXX" ... which goes to show, we all do it

Phil (a current History/English teacher in Australia)

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 8:12:21 AM   
Drongo

 

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Little Sally: "Can I go to the bathroom?"

Me: "I don't know, can you?"

Little Sally (after scrunching up brain and thinking): "May I go to the bathroom?"

Me: Sorry, we don't have any Bathtubs at this school.

Little Sally: "May I go to the toilet?"

Me: "Yes, of course, Sally. Why didn't you ask in the first place?"



Little Sally: "May I now have a mop instead, you bastard?"

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 9:08:17 AM   
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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 2:37:29 PM   
Buck Beach

 

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 2:57:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: max_h

another reason why english sucks.


lets make a fully logical language the world language - german!!!


One of the payoffs for using the "sucky" english language is the fun of wordplay. Just look at all the amusing examples of it in this thread. Try to do the same thing auf Deutsch and native german-speakers will just look at you with straight faces and say, "That's wrong, you can't say that."

< Message edited by irrelevant -- 10/1/2004 8:19:36 AM >

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/1/2004 10:52:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never seen a thread like this on a sports fan-board. Well, I have seen a few... They usually end in flames pretty quickly.

I like Warriner's for all of the rules and Rhetoric for Writers on style.

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 1:29:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Knaust

straight!....strait is another thing...anyway, excuse me for my poor English...second language, of course


Just keep reading this thread while I invade Japan on you as I think your Italian
front line is ready to collapse as soon as my heavies show up.

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RE: As a former English teacher... - 10/2/2004 3:51:13 AM   
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Hmm. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" ... surely you mean "That is atrocious" rather than "That is attrocious?"


And you endorse an ostensible quote that begins with "let he?" "To let," when used as meaning "to allow," is a transitive verb. The objective case is called for. "Let him" is correct. The original text was not originally cast in English, so that the translator of the version you "quote" is the person in error, not the original writer in Greek.

Let those who can teach.

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 3:56:26 AM   
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I don't know what you are talking about pasternakski. Unless you don't understand that students make mistakes and will use their's instead of there's. That is what I was talking about. I have that experience on a daily basis of students making mistakes, and then helping them to correct those mistakes.

But thank you for showing your ignorance by attacking me when I was talking about not attacking teachers.

(Ex. There's a way to defeat the Japanese in WITP. NOT Their's a way to defeat the Japanese in WITP.)


You merely need to explain yourself more clearly and demonstrate the correctness of your understanding. My daily experience, by the way, is as a professor of English at a major American university (and I do not capitalize common pronouns in the body of a sentence as you apparently deem appropriate).

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RE: As a former English teacher... - 10/2/2004 3:57:18 AM   
Halsey

 

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This is the best forum on the web!

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 5:00:01 AM   
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Little Sally: "May I now have a mop instead, you bastard?"


Thats worthy of a salute!

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RE: As a former English teacher... - 10/2/2004 9:03:40 AM   
Knaust

 

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 9:08:28 AM   
Knaust

 

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ORIGINAL: CMDRMCTOAST

quote:

ORIGINAL: Knaust

straight!....strait is another thing...anyway, excuse me for my poor English...second language, of course


Just keep reading this thread while I invade Japan on you as I think your Italian
front line is ready to collapse as soon as my heavies show up.


Italian front line collapsing?...just ready to open a second front in Europe?...is this option available in WITP?

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 6:14:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pasternakski

quote:

ORIGINAL: donkuchi

I don't know what you are talking about pasternakski. Unless you don't understand that students make mistakes and will use their's instead of there's. That is what I was talking about. I have that experience on a daily basis of students making mistakes, and then helping them to correct those mistakes.

But thank you for showing your ignorance by attacking me when I was talking about not attacking teachers.

(Ex. There's a way to defeat the Japanese in WITP. NOT Their's a way to defeat the Japanese in WITP.)


You merely need to explain yourself more clearly and demonstrate the correctness of your understanding. My daily experience, by the way, is as a professor of English at a major American university (and I do not capitalize common pronouns in the body of a sentence as you apparently deem appropriate).


If you are talking about where I said NOT Their's ..., that is actually where I left out punctuation by accident. (OOPS) Sorry if I wasn't more clear. I meant for the part after NOT to be a separate sentence.

HEY MATRIX ----- We need a grammar and spell checker for the posts now. I am tired of typing twice. Now I have to type it in Word first so I can spell check and grammar check everything. Then I have to type the corrected version in the box again. Forget the patch, I want a spell check and grammar check for my posts!!!!!!

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RE: As a former English teacher... - 10/2/2004 9:44:33 PM   
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I would find a good Grammar book, Warriners comes to mind - notate the page(s), and send that lovely bit of misinformed miseducation to the schools department head, cc's to the Principal, and each member of the local School Board. That is attrocious.


Hmm. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" ... surely you mean "That is atrocious" rather than "That is attrocious?"

Phil (a current History/English Teacher)


Hey! I was hired as a teacher, not as a typist. If I thought there was to be a grade on this forum, I would have proofed the text.

To be perfectly clear about my response, my umbrage was not about the error as much as about the teacher's response. Intellectual arrogance has no place in the classroom - even though we have all experienced it from time to time.

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 11:24:16 PM   
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Ya know, Knaust, you have absolutely, positively come to the wrong place for advice on grammar.



LOL

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/2/2004 11:38:56 PM   
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My daily experience, by the way, is as a professor of English at a major American university


You needn't apologize. You are welcome to post here even so, just provided you are funny.

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RE: Off Topic: English grammar - 10/3/2004 10:21:30 AM   
Mike Scholl

 

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of the participants didn't like English in school and couldn't wait to be done with it forever.
I know it's the way I felt. And now we're all here playing English Teacher..... THAT'S FUNNY.

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