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Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:17:57 PM   
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Ok as promised here it is the long awaited list of data base changes for Patch 1.3

These changes will not update your current games, so in order to utilize the changes you will need to start a new game. You do not have to restart your games but to get the full benefit of these changes I suggest you do so.

A new thread will be started for 1.4 to address remaining issues, we could spend 10 more years tweaking/fixing/changing the OOB data bases and still not be 100% correct so this process will continue over time.

I fully expect comments this thread to be interesting as some of you will like the changes and others will not, so without further ado lose the hounds of war...


WitP OOB and Data Base Modifications: Patch 1.3
1. Increased maneuver of Firefly (90) from 15 to 28, durability to 30, added armor.
2. Added C-46 Commando to aircraft database (156), and modified C-47 to upgrade path to C-46 starting in July 43.
3. Increased Unicorn class sortie points from 0 to 120.
4. Increased the Soryu class and ship sortie points from 288 to 450.
5. Adjusted ships Valiant (3175) and Queen Elizabeth (3176) to Queen Elizabeth class (1407).
6. The Ki-21 & Ki-48 are reversed in value. The Ki-21 should have '12' mvr while the Ki-48 should have '19'. Decreased the MC-21 Sally mvr from 19 to 12.
7. Modified Ki-43-1b (aircraft and groups) to carry one 7.7 and one 12.7 mm machine gun.
8. Decreased maneuverability of Ki-49 Helen (66) from 19 to 16.
9. Added 2 Mitsubishi engines (237) to the L2D2 Tabby aircraft.
10. Added 1 armor to the Barracuda (96) aircraft.
11. Decreased max bomb load of B-18A Bolo to 4400.
12. Adjusted Noumea Airfield build size to 3. Altered May 42 and later scenario Airfield actual size to 6.
13. No.222 Group should start the game in Colombo. No.225 Group should arrive in January 1942, not January 1943.
14. Decreased starting amount of tanks in Indian Tank brigades.
15. Corrected leadership of 25th Army (Yamashita), 5th Division (Matsui), and 18th Division (Mutaguchi).
16. Corrected arrival date of Kusaka, R. to 6 Dec 41.
17. Freed up leaders currently attached to unit templates.
18. Corrected the following ships are incorrectly listed as British. They are in fact Australian vessels: 5291 Barwon S. AK (Allied) AK British 06-Dec-41, 5292 Adelong S. AK (Allied) AK British 06-Dec-41, 5294 Mildura S. AK (Allied) AK British 06-Dec-41, 5295 Mungana S. AK (Allied) AK British 06-Dec-41, 5296 Murada S. AK (Allied) AK British 06-Dec-41, 9368 Koolama M. AP (Allied) AP British 06-Dec-41, 9381 Zealandia L. AP (Allied) AP British 06-Dec-41.
19. Dutch Cruisers (Van Heemskerk) and Destroyers (Issac Sweers, Van Galen, Tjerk Hiddes) now arrive at Colombo.
20. Altered name of device 484 to Stuart I Light Tank.
21. Added numerous floatplane squadrons to Royal Navy ships (airgroup database 2350 – 2368).
22. Added the following ships currently missing from Marianas scenario: 3154- BB New Mexico, 3607- Ralph Talbot, 3522-Wadliegh, 3463-McDermutt, 3561-Bailey, 3483-Halsey Powell, 151-Naganami.
23. Altered Indomitable (3035) arrival date to 27 Jan 42 for Dec. 41 scenarios, and 1 Jul 44 for later scenarios.
24. Altered Ki-67 Peggy and P1Y Frances to carry one torpedo instead of internal bomb load. Aircraft can now perform torpedo attacks or normal bombing attacks.
25. Altered weaponry of Pearl Harbor coastal defense unit (2682).
26. Relocated South Pacific and North Pacific HQ’s to Pearl Harbor for Dec 41 scenarios.
27. Added Allied daily supply to bases and added oil and resource stockpiles to Japanese bases in scenarios 13 and 9
28. Changed arrival date of US 8th and 49th FG (1503 - 1504) to 1 Jan 42
29. Added upgrade class for Japanese CV Taiho class to all campaign scenarios, class 32 upgrades to class 613 in 12/44 and receives 24 additional 25MM (069) L/R and 84 5 inch Rockets (083) L/R
30. Removed US Commander 12559 Montomery, A. from Japanese APD-46 (347) replaced with random Japanese commander.
31. Scenario 14 reloaded 1st USMC Division back on transports .
32. Renamed Japanese Armored Divisions to Tank Divisions (1672, 1742 and 1743)
33. Changed PG Isabell (4079) from Austrailian to USN
34. Changed VP-21 (2307) arriving 8/1/44 as Mariners, to on Map Midway 12/7/41 (as Catalina set upgrade to Mariner)
35. VP-22 (1445 on map 12/7/41 set upgrade to Mariner (Removed 2308 duplicate of 1445 set to arrive 9/1/44 as Mariners)
36. VP-23 (1446) already on map 12/7/41 (removed 2309 arrives 1/20/42 with Catalina and duplicates 1446)
37. Removed the following air groups from all non 12/41 scenarios, these groups were all disbanded/destroyed during the Malaya and Java campaigns. 1170 : 453 Squadron RAAF, 1171 : 488 Squadron, 1176 : 4 AACU, 1193 : W Flight RAF, 1201 : 2/2 Flight RAAF, 1204 : 2/13 Flight RAAF,
1233 : 2/24 Flight RAAF, 1301 : 232 Squadron and 1303 : 605 Squadron
38. There are two seperate units that are named "51st Heavy AA Bn" in the Japanese OOB One of them is in Pescadores and the other is in Saigon. Pescadores (1082) Saigon (1457) Renamed (1082) 50th heavy AA Bn.
39. Japanese DD Natsushio (172) starting as upgraded Kagero 6/1944 in most scenarios, changed to correct class (065)
40. Changed all 12/41 scenarios for No. 5 RNZAF Squadron aircraft type changed to Singapore's (103) that upgrade to PBY Catalina (103). All other scenarios changed type to (103) PBY Catalina
41. No. 84 Sqd. and 211 Sqd. should start arriving in January 42 with Blenhiem IV Bombers. The currently arrive 433 days and 612 days respectively. They were historically part of the 225 Group.
42. No. 215 Sqd. should arrive in April 42 not the 251 days currently in the game.
43. The 225 Group HQ and 225 Aviation unit should arrive in January 42 not the current 402 days.
44. Altered NZ forces as follows: leave the 8th brigade (2620) as is on map 12/7/41, rename the 5th brigade (2864) the Fiji Brigade and set arrival data as 11/15/42, and rename the 3rd NZ Div (2855) to 14th NZ Brigade (and reduced to brigade size) and delay the arrival until 1/15/42.
45. Increased disability factor of 2nd Marine Division (2693) to 35.
46. Increased experience of British 7th Armoured Brigade to 80.
47. Corrected the Il-2 12.7 mm MG from have a firing arc of BT to TR (5).
48. Deleted 54 RAAF Sqd, 54 RAF Sqd is already in the RAF OOB.
49. 34 Sqd Blenheim IV upgrades to Wellington -- should upgrade to Hurricane II ; 60 Sqd Blenhiem I upgrades to Blenhiem IV -- should upgrade to Hurricane II ; 258 Sqd Hurricane II arriving Colombo 1/42 -- should arrive Colombo 3/42 ; 11 Sqd Blenheim IV upgrades to Wellington -- should upgrade to Hurricane II ; 113 Sqd Blenheim IV upgrades to Wellington -- should upgrade to Hurricane II ; 30 Sqd Hurricane II arrives Calcutta 3/42 -- should arrive Colombo 3/42 ; 45 Sqd Blenheim IV upgrades to Mosquito FB.-- should upgrade to Vengeance I ; 152 Sqd Mohawk IV -- should be 155 Sqd ; 217 Sqd Hudson upgrades to Beaufighter VIC -- should upgrade to Beaufort V-IX ; 54 Sqd Spitfire Vb arrives Trimcomalee 9/42-- should arrive Melbourne 8/42 ; 321 Sqd Catalina I arrives Dacca 9/42 -- should arrive Colombo 8/42 ; 42 Sqd Blenheim IV upgrades to Wellington -- should upgrade to Hurricane II.
50. 240 Sqd Catalina I arrives Dacca 10/42 -- should arrive Madras 7/42 ; 194 Sqd Hudson upgrades to Beaufighter VIC-- should upgrade to Dakota I ; 84 Sqd Vengeance I arrives Karachi 2/43-- Should arrive Paembang 1/42 as Blenheim IV, upgrades to Vengeance I.
51. 20 Sqd Lysander arrives Calcutta 1/43 -- should start on map at Delhi; 22 Sqd Beafort I arrives Delhi 1/43 -- should arrive Colombo 4/42; 82 Sqd Vengeance I arrives Hyderabad 1/43-- should arrive Karachi 5/43; 176 Sqd Beaufighter VIF arrives Trimcomalee 1/43 -- should arrive Calcutta 1/43.
52. 413 Sqd Catalina I arrives Trimcomalee 2/43-- should arrive Colombo 4/42; 89 Sqd Beaufighter VIF -- should upgrade to Mosquito FB; 81 Sqd Spitfire VIII -- should upgrade to Thunderbolt; 123 Sqd Hurricane II -- should be Spitfire VIII, upgrades to Thunderbolt; 131 Sqd Spitfire VIII-- should upgrade to Thunderbolt.
53. 15 RAAF Sqd arrives Townsville -- should arrive Sydney; 18 RAAF Sqd arrrives Darwin -- should arrive Canberra; 22 RAAF Sqd upgrades to Boomerrang -- should upgrade to A20 Boston; 8 RAAF Sqd is duplicated , the later one arriving with Beauforts should be deleted.; 33 RAAF Sqd arrives Melbourne -- should be Townsville, and upgrade to Dakotas; 38 RAAF Sqd arrives Melbourne w/Dakotas -- should arrive Sydney w/Hudsons, upgrades to Dakotas; 41 RAAF Sqd arrives Melbourne -- should arrive Townsville, upgrades to PBM Mariner; 84 RAAF Sqd arrives w/Kittyhawks -- should arrive w/Boomerrangs, upgrades to Kittyhawks.
54. No.1,2,3,4,9 RNZAF Hudson Sqd's should upgrade to PV-1 Venturas; No. 14,15,16,17,18,19,20,24 RNZAF Kittyhawk Sqd's shoulds upgrade to F4u-1 Corsairs.
55. No. 25 RNZAF Sqd should arrive w/SBD Dauntless (July 43) and upgrade to F4U-1 Corsairs.
56. Added A6M3a (8), longer range version of A6M3, available Nov 42.
57. A6M5 gun package changed to two 20 mm Type 99 mod 2 cannon, and one each of the following 7.7mm type 97 MG and 13.2mm type 3 MG.
58. A6M5c gun package changed to three 13.2 mm type 3 MG's and two 20 mm type 99 mod 2.
59. A6M8 gun package changed to list 20 mm Type 99 mod.2
60. A7M2 20mm Cannon changed to 20mm type 99 mod.2.
61. J1N1-S bombs changed to external (12).
62. B6N torpedo changed to external (12).
63. Fixed California Class (180) 3 inch and .50cal AA from all RS to RS and LS in pre 4/42 scenarios
64. Fixed radar never repairs problem in USN Maryland and Pennsylvania classes
65. Changed main guns on New Mexico class battleships (ships and classes) from 14/45 to 14/50
66. Changed nationality of DD's Napier, Nepal, Nestor, Nizam and Norman (3728 - 3732) from British to Australian.
67. Changed Karachi's base force (3479) to TOE of "0", to match the sister City named British Base forces
68. Changed unit (2141) 101st USAF base force from US navy to US Army
69. Reduced Exp and moral to 60 for (2568) 3rd Australian Division
70. Added USN Flush deck DD to APD conversion to all scenarios that apply (removes duplicate DD/APD Schley, Ward and Waters issue)
71. Fixed Yamato class (501) radar issue
72. Fixed Japanese Shimane Maru class and ships 4.7 guns
73. Fixed Depth charges on Doresy class (312)
74. Fixed class name (1481) from blank slot to Neosho
75. Fixed secondary 25mm guns on Oyodo (528) class
76. Fixed LS Rockets on Zuiho (553) class
77. Fixed LS Rockets on Ryuho (555) class
78. Fixed rear 4.7 gun mount on Tomodzuro (593) class and ship
79. Fixed Soryu upgrade classes 605, 606 and 607 25MM AA guns and 608 25mm AA guns and rockets.
80. Fixed Hiryu upgrade classes 609, 610 and 610 25mm AA guns and 611 25mm AA guns and rockets
81. Fixed Pennsylvania 1213 upgrade class 20mm AA guns
82. Fixed Swan (PG) upgrade class 1317, rear main gun mount and LS 20mm AA guns
83. Fixed 20mm AA guns on Queen Elizabeth upgrade class 1407
84. Fixed MSW Pursuit and Competent and AK Shooting Star from arriving with zero fuel on board
85. Changed PC-142 (511), PC-150 (513) and PC-194 (521) commanders to random Japanese commander (were arriving with Allied commander)
86. Corrected Type KD3A/B (Kaidai 3a/b) - These boats had 6 forward torpedo tubes and 2 aft tubes, in game all 8 tubes are forward.
87. Corrected Type KD6A/B (Kaidai 6a/b) - In game boats of this type have 6 forward tubes with 2 ammo, this should be changed to 4 forward tubes with 2 ammo and 2 aft tubes with 3 ammo. These boats carried 14 torpedoes not 12.
88. Corrected Type KD5 (Kaidai 5)- There should be 4 forward tubes with 2 ammo and 2 aft tubes with 3 ammo.
89. Corrected Type J3 (Junsen 3) - These subs carried 22 torpedoes not 18, torpedo ammo should be increased to 4.
90. Corrected Type L4 (Vickers L3 Mod) - Ammo for 2 aft torpedo tubes tube must be 1 instead of 2, this type has only 10 torpedoes.
91. Added two Type K6 (Kaichu 6) - RO-55 and RO-56.
92. Added class “Type D1/2” submarines I-316 thru I-374.
93. Changes Beaufighter (134, 149, 152) bombs to external (12).
94. Corrected B-18 Bolo to 3 x .30 machine guns for defense.
95. Corrected the No120 RAAF squadron to Dutch pilots.
96. Corrected Ki-36 adding a 7.7mm Type 89 fixed firing forward in this plane in addition to the 7.7mm gun it has presently firing to the rear. Bomb load should set to facing 12-XT, presently it is 00-F.
97. Corrected Ki-67 Top Turret to Ho-5 20mm Cannon instead of Ho-3.
98. Corrected Ki-84a, the Gun Package Ho-3 is not the correct gun and should be switched to the Ho-5.
99. Corrected Ki-84c, the Gun Package Ho-3 is not the correct gun and should be switched to the Ho-5. Increased maneuver rating from 31 to 34. Increased bomb load to two 250 kg bombs.
100. Corrected Ki-61 KAIc weapon to Ho-5 20mm Cannon instead of Ho-3. Increased endurance to give a maximum range of 1120 miles.
101. Corrected late (after May 1943) arriving Liberty class ships to be class type 1486.
102. Scenario 16 Fixed 816 various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality
103. Removed leaders from bases 342, 345, 347, 362, 544 and 706
104. Scenario 15 Fixed 816 various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality.
105. Corrected late war arriving PT boats to correct upgrade class.
106. Corrected misc. errors in air group database (all scenarios).
107. Corrected misc. errors in leader and pilot database files (all scenarios).
108. Fixed ships with sunk dates before they arrive (were not arriving due to incorrect sunk data from previous named ship) Ship ID: 565 (Wa 6) - Sunk (411226)before arrival (421115) Ship ID: 568 (Wa 9) - Sunk (420202)before arrival (430315) Ship ID: 569 (Wa 10) - Sunk (411210)before arrival (430515) Ship ID: 573 (Wa 14) - Sunk (420112)before arrival (430515) Ship ID: 578 (Wa 19) - Sunk (411210)before arrival (430615) Ship ID: 579 (Wa 20) - Sunk (420112)before arrival (430715) Ship ID: 897 (Kazahaya) - Sunk (431006)before arrival (440315) Ship ID: 3030 (Langley) - Sunk (420227)before arrival (430815) Ship ID: 3062 (Corregidor) - Sunk (411217)before arrival (430915) Ship ID: 3109 (Block Island) - Sunk (440529)before arrival (450315) Ship ID: 3307 (Argonaut) - Sunk (430110)before arrival (440815) Ship ID: 3327 (Borie) - Sunk (431101)before arrival (450115) Ship ID: 3328 (Bristol) - Sunk (431013)before arrival (450615) Ship ID: 3345 (Ingraham) - Sunk (420822)before arrival (441015) Ship ID: 3349 (Maddox) - Sunk (430710)before arrival (441015) Ship ID: 3420 (Gregory) - Sunk (420905)before arrival (441015) Ship ID: 3958 (Edsall) - Sunk (420301)before arrival (450715) Ship ID: 3963 (Finch) - Sunk (420410)before arrival (450715) Ship ID: 4209 (Truxtun) - Sunk (420318)before arrival (450415) Ship ID: 4227 (Hector) - Sunk (420403)before arrival (430115) Ship ID: 4858 (Runner) - Sunk (431027)before arrival (450215)Ship ID: 4919 (Tantalus) - Sunk (411226)before arrival (440215) Ship ID: 4920 (Taurus) - Sunk (411227)before arrival (440215) Ship ID: 5432 (Pollux) - Sunk (420218)before arrival (440115) Ship ID: 6582 (PT-111) - Sunk (430201)before arrival (430515) Ship ID: 6583 (PT-112) - Sunk (430111)before arrival (430515)
109. Scenario 14 fixed various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality.
110. Scenario 10 fixed various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality.
111. Scenario 11 fixed various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality.
112. Scenario 12 fixed various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality
113. Scenario 13 fixed various ships (later war arrivals) arriving with the wrong upgrade class or wrong captain for the vessel nationality, also fixed arrival of many ships arriving on turn 1 and supply and resource issues
114. Miscellaneous correction to Allied aircraft build rates.
115. Changed DO-24 default bomb load from 10x 250lb bombs to 1 MK12 torpedo

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:28:21 PM   
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Thanks for the info. Very nice!

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:30:12 PM   
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Yeahh!!!! Finally some good news....... and the date of release?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:42:50 PM   
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Yeahh!!!! Finally some good news....... and the date of release?


Now would I be folish enough to publish a date. Might as well stick a big target on my back.

Should be any day now, we just finished testing the last item.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:47:58 PM   
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Well that's enough to calm me for now.... of course I won't be able to sleep for next few nights, knowing that any given time the patch might just come out...

regards and thanks for so long waited info

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 2:48:24 PM   
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Excellant. And thanks, Michael

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 3:04:07 PM   
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24. Altered Ki-67 Peggy and P1Y Frances to carry one torpedo instead of internal bomb load. Aircraft can now perform torpedo attacks or normal bombing attacks.



Fanboys happy ?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 3:09:52 PM   
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115. Changed DO-24 default bomb load from 10x 250lb bombs to 1 MK12 torpedo





oh o uber creaky flying boat KB killer torp bomber alert

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 3:38:34 PM   
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Many thanks to you gentlemen for the overtime you've put into this one. You all deserve a break! How about we give these guys some time to spend with their families before they get blasted again.

Patch 1.4? Get ready boys, here they come!

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:04:12 PM   
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Thanks Pry, very impressive!

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:08:28 PM   
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Damn! Anything else?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:12:51 PM   
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What effect does a bomb being carried externally vs interally have in the game?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:23:57 PM   
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quote:



115. Changed DO-24 default bomb load from 10x 250lb bombs to 1 MK12 torpedo





oh o uber creaky flying boat KB killer torp bomber alert


I was just thinking the same thing. Like this a/c needs any help. I can put 60 Zeros on CAP and yet this little a/c will get thru and hit every friggin time. This has got to be the most hated a/c in the game. For me anyway.

Good list though.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:32:09 PM   
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Wonderful job. For those of us that have games going, I understand that the OOB changes wont take effect until we start a new game, but will the other changes in the patch take effect in current games?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:42:07 PM   
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The day 1.3 is released I'll place my order, be sure about that. Thanks to everyone involved with this fine piece of wargaming software.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:51:08 PM   
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Nice list. Thanks for all the work! I love the game with 1.2, and I know it's only getting better which amazes me. Thanks.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 4:52:16 PM   
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What are the chances that DB issues not addressed in this patch will be addressed in the next one? Also, is Mitscher available as an admiral now?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 5:10:47 PM   
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I don't mean to start a laundry list of complaints about various issues that weren't addressed--I know that a lot of work went into this update, for which I am very grateful, and I counted three issues that I personally brought up on the list of corrections. But I have to ask, why weren't the issues about the Yorktown-class upgrade that I mentioned looked at? The Yorktowns had the greatest impact of any ships on the Pacific war, and IMO are most worthy of accurate modeling.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 5:20:32 PM   
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Thanks Pry. (and to everyone who helps with WITP)

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 5:40:32 PM   
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Do-24

The plane will not carry torpedoes on Naval Search. This change will effectively act as a "fix" for the uber Naval Search bombing thing.

BTW thanks.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 6:05:21 PM   
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Do these changes (where they effect ships "at the start of the war") apply to Scen 16, 12/9/41 as well as to Scen 15, 12/7/41?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 6:21:52 PM   
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56. Added A6M3a (8), longer range version of A6M3, available Nov 42.


Hmm. So are any squadrons going to upgrade to this? Will the upgrade of this plane be the same as A6M3 original? Stats the same as A6M3?

Good list Pry. Many thanks.

Good work by all

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 7:02:18 PM   
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cool!!!

Singapore’s are flying boats right???

a lot less wellies still historical needs

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 8:47:54 PM   
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Awesome, can't wait to restart.

Hey has anyone requested making the windows float so when you are looking at squadrons on an airfield and the radius circles change you can drag the data window to the side to see the airfield and the new area covered?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 8:51:03 PM   
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Wonderful job. For those of us that have games going, I understand that the OOB changes wont take effect until we start a new game, but will the other changes in the patch take effect in current games?


Yes. When you start a game the OOB for that game is read into an array (I am guessing how its handled, but this idea makes sense) and locked into the game. The other changes (improvements) will work fine, just the OOB modifications will not be involved in a current game...

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 9:00:51 PM   
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Aside from the OOB changes, is the ground unit retreat problem fixed? ie: a ground unit retreating into an enemy hex or through the winning enemy unit and ending up on his supply line.

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 9:30:46 PM   
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Very glad to see the C 46 made the cut..
Was the USS Wakefield added?.(She was a major player in the Pacific,1941/1942 as she took the last reinforcements to Singapore,was bombed,and then later carried the 2nd Marines Division to New Zealand.(Her sister West Point is in the OOB's).
Thank you,Bob

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 9:32:23 PM   
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forgive a newby, but do the fixes in this upcoming patch have any profound impact on the game AI?

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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 10:09:40 PM   
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impact.....yes

profound.....maybe



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RE: Patch 1.3 Data Base Changes (The List) - 10/14/2004 10:10:57 PM   
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forgive a newby, but do the fixes in this upcoming patch have any profound impact on the game AI?


These are just data fixes, not programming. That's in another thread.

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