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Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie DVD ... - 11/30/2004 2:25:09 AM   
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I gotta think so. The packaging and the content make this, to my mind, an essential buy for your Christmas list, if you don't already have it. For the few of you that haven't seen it, the extra material contained in the sixth DVD alone makes it worth the price. Also, an often-overlooked part of the collection are the field guides that are included with each segment. There are a vast number of speaking parts in this mini-series, and the field guides sort out the chain of command, from Eisenhower on down, as well as offering a description of each character and who portrays him in the movie. This is NOT a fictionalized account of the war--the Americans, at least, all represent real people. In many cases you see the men represented giving interviews. Some of these veterans have since passed away, adding an extra poignancy to the experience.

To my mind, if anyone ever asks me why I am so fascinated with long-ago tragic events, I can simply show them this , and say, "we must honor them and never forget what they did for us". For the men of Easy Company 506th PIR, this package does just that.

Background note: much of the interview footage was conducted by the late Steven Ambrose and members of his staff in 1990, during preparation of Mr. Ambrose's book, on which the mini-series was based. Other interview material was done by the production staff of the mini-series.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 4:03:10 AM   
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How much extra actual film footage is there?

In the UK you can get it £34 at HMV. Its cheap over at Play I think aswell.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 5:09:36 AM   
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The main episodes themselves are not extended, but the sixth (bonus DVD) is close to two hours, with the documentary ("We Stand Alone Together: The Men of Easy Company", which is 80 minutes), Ron Livingston's ("Nixon") video diaries of the actors' "training camp", and a 30-minute featurette on the making on the film.

I paid about $80 for this collection, and to me it was worth every penny. I watch it more than any other movie set I own. After repeated viewings, you really get to know these guys, and that's special, at least to me.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 5:24:00 AM   
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I'd actually have to wonder what other war movie DVD pack it has to compete against?

The Kelly's Heroes DVD Pack? The Battle of the Bulge DVD Pack?

Even the Saving Private Ryan DVD pack? The field really is pretty small.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 5:29:09 AM   
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I'd actually have to wonder what other war movie DVD pack it has to compete against?

The Kelly's Heroes DVD Pack? The Battle of the Bulge DVD Pack?

Even the Saving Private Ryan DVD pack? The field really is pretty small.


Well, Chris, that is true. This is what makes this a unique thing. I know of no other war movie that goes so in-depth on a particular subject or unit. Until the follow-up Pacific series comes out, it's one of a kind.

Of course, having worked on MCSE in a small way makes me predisposed to be so enthusiastic about it. Whether you bought MCSE or not, I still think it's on the "essential" list for WWII students.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 5:53:10 AM   
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I think what Chris "might" have been saying, is Band of Brothers being a multi disk offering, really can't be put up against anything other than lengthy multi disk offerings for the most part.

I don't so much think of it as a film per se, as a film is usually a 90-120 minute offering with a differently paced story.

I have always considered it a mini series. Wasn't it basically that though?

People will pick apart darned near anything put on film if given a chance. So it comes down to did you enjoy it? Did you enjoy it enough to buy it so you could enjoy it several more times?

The best disc for me was the 6th disc. Made getting the set worth it.

Military series in competition?

Well I guess it would be running up against documentaries if you ask me.
World at War
War Years
Victory at Sea
10 Thousand Day War
All worthy competitors.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 6:13:54 AM   
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Never saw the movie nor did I see any ads about it, could you please tell me, what it is about or how it is called here?

Is it a good movie about the war or just some heroism?? Is it worth the buy, or does "Private Ryan" does the same for me?

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 6:20:30 AM   
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No real connection with Saving Private Ryan beyond the people that made the film.

The film is about a parachute unit, you follow their actions from training to jump into Normandy through the fighting in France and into Germany.

6 dvds in the set.

Some parts are gripping, some a bit dull. Action looks very good in some parts but others a bit hum drum.

It was based off of a book. It had a lot of input from actual veterans, the guys who were actually the ones represented in the series in a lot of cases.

Watching this series, is a good primer for playing the Steel Panthers Mega Campaign Screaming Eagles.

You won't regret watching this one, but not everyone will watch some things several times regardless of what it is. So you need to ask yourself, is this a rental or a purchase choice.
But I do highly recommend it.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 6:34:41 AM   
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Sound interesting , so I will look for it, if it is available in german

just googelt for it it is called "Wir waren Brüder" (When we were brothers) in german, gee, what a translation

thx for the hint, I`ll check my video store for it

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 7:01:46 AM   
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Well, Les, my two favorite war movies are the 5-hour version of "Das Boot" and "Band of Brothers". I honestly can't pick my favorite between the two. Why? Because they are about the men, and about the fact that much of the time, the guys were fighting boredom and the everyday humdrum of war. In the humdrum, you get to know the guys, and I think this is fine. This is is definitely the antidote and dose of real life that you do NOT get in an abstract wargame like SPWaW ( even though it DOES have its share of boredom on occassion).

You cannot deny that the glory and non-stop action of sensationalistic books and movies don't portray the real-life experience as well as these two miniseries do.

Now, strictly speaking, the "BoB" packaging is much superior to "Das Boot" uncut. Nevertheless, if you wanna "get real", at least as well as a dramatic recreation can do, then these are it.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 7:41:34 AM   
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Hey guys, I took the time to record BOB when it first came on HBO {gotter on VHS} so I'd be real interested in getting u to copy the last disk for me GUNNY ,we'll talk bout that later. I tend to agree with Hexed on this, depending on your views of older classics is my fort'ee,band of brothers came out here in saskatoon right after prvt. ryan so they kind of overlaped the scenses,I still watch and prefer movies like the devil's brigade,the guns of naverone,Where Eagles dare,Darby's Rangers, I find my campaign hopping in SPWAW follows in tow of the war movies I watch and I'm like u in my love of the WW2 era.might be in trouble this week, A Bridge too far was just on so I will likely go refight Col. Frosts prediciment at gabner's last ride. till my next post keep your socks dry and your helmet on. RT

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 4:54:31 PM   
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For "big scale timespan" films, I wonder how many here remember watching Shaka Zulu?

I have that in my collection. It has some incredible scenes in it too. There is a very haunting tune in one part near the end as well. That, and holy toot, I have never seen so many topless black girls before hehe (yes the film made zero effort to fuss over that detail).

I think Shogun was a cool mini series to watch (and no I am not one iota interested in a long boring dialogue of how it might have been inaccurate here there or otherwise). I found it to be very entertaining.

There have been a few Civil War based series that I thought were quite impressive. Can't quote any immediate titles.

You know what would be cool. a BoB style approach to a series, but set during the Roman Empire perhaps.
Something like watching maybe Sharpe.

It doesn't always have to be WW2 to be interesting.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 9:33:37 PM   
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I'd also say RUN SILENT RUN DEEP is my fav,black and white war movie,they did such a good job with the models and diarama's for the ships blowing up and the background scenes alot to be said for sets and flood tanks.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 10:01:47 PM   
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I'd also say RUN SILENT RUN DEEP is my fav,black and white war movie,they did such a good job with the models and diarama's for the ships blowing up and the background scenes alot to be said for sets and flood tanks.


Once again, the book was far more better. And at least educational (somewhat).

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 11/30/2004 11:53:19 PM   
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Is it a good movie about the war or just some heroism?? Is it worth the buy, or does "Private Ryan" does the same for me?



It should also be mentioned that BoB is a true story (as opposed to "based on" or "inspired by"); it's as close to Ambrose's book as they could get, and that was based on hundreds of hours of interviews with the soldiers concerned.

The care with casting was incredible - not only is the acting superb but the resemblance of the actors to their characters (check the photos in the book) is uncanny. My only gripe with the series was that they chickened out on bad language. Usually it doesn't matter, but in a few places (for those that have it, watch the bit where Easy come under fire approaching Carentan) it really blows the realism. They should have just "bleeped" on networks that wouldn't broadcast swearing.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 1:52:41 AM   
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I read on the back of the box it has extra footage within the actual film. Well I thought I did anyway.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 3:56:09 AM   
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Well, Les, my two favorite war movies are the 5-hour version of "Das Boot" and "Band of Brothers". I honestly can't pick my favorite between the two. Why? Because they are about the men, and about the fact that much of the time, the guys were fighting boredom and the everyday humdrum of war. In the humdrum, you get to know the guys, and I think this is fine. This is is definitely the antidote and dose of real life that you do NOT get in an abstract wargame like SPWaW ( even though it DOES have its share of boredom on occassion).

You cannot deny that the glory and non-stop action of sensationalistic books and movies don't portray the real-life experience as well as these two miniseries do.

Now, strictly speaking, the "BoB" packaging is much superior to "Das Boot" uncut. Nevertheless, if you wanna "get real", at least as well as a dramatic recreation can do, then these are it.


Holy Cow! A FIVE HOUR version of Das Boot? I thought it was a great movie as it was. Is the 5 hour version available anywhere? Nobody else in my house would sit through five hours of it, but I would if it's good.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 7:06:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chris Trog

I'd actually have to wonder what other war movie DVD pack it has to compete against?

The Kelly's Heroes DVD Pack? The Battle of the Bulge DVD Pack?

Even the Saving Private Ryan DVD pack? The field really is pretty small.


FWIW...

The Battle of the Bulge has yet to make it to DVD... at least the Henry Fonda, Robert Shaw and Robert Ryan movie version.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 7:52:37 PM   
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I grew up watching Victory at Sea, it was pretty cool,
Love both Das boot and BOB, am a huge airwar fan, so love Blue Max.. WW1 and BOB, Battle of Brittian.. but my favorite mini was a BBC on a group of Brit pilots in WW2.. anyone remember the name, I have forgotten it? ok, that and Band bob

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 7:58:47 PM   
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Erm BBC........."Piece of Cake"? Well the book was called "Piece of Cake"

Based on the book. The book is far better. Its sequel is good too. Well worth a read. Although his best series was his WW1 RFC books. Author Derek Robinson.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 8:01:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chris Trog

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Well, Les, my two favorite war movies are the 5-hour version of "Das Boot" and "Band of Brothers". I honestly can't pick my favorite between the two. Why? Because they are about the men, and about the fact that much of the time, the guys were fighting boredom and the everyday humdrum of war. In the humdrum, you get to know the guys, and I think this is fine. This is is definitely the antidote and dose of real life that you do NOT get in an abstract wargame like SPWaW ( even though it DOES have its share of boredom on occassion).

You cannot deny that the glory and non-stop action of sensationalistic books and movies don't portray the real-life experience as well as these two miniseries do.

Now, strictly speaking, the "BoB" packaging is much superior to "Das Boot" uncut. Nevertheless, if you wanna "get real", at least as well as a dramatic recreation can do, then these are it.


Holy Cow! A FIVE HOUR version of Das Boot? I thought it was a great movie as it was. Is the 5 hour version available anywhere? Nobody else in my house would sit through five hours of it, but I would if it's good.


Chris, "Das Boot: The Original Uncut Version", should be available at retail outlets like Circuit City. It is two DVDs, and it is the entire TV miniseries as broadcast in Germany. There's a couple of other threads about this on the forum. In this version, Werner (the
correspodent) does a voiceover narration.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/1/2004 8:56:48 PM   
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Piece of cake? is that in response to my ?

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/2/2004 12:56:45 AM   
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Two more items about "Band of Brothers". I greatly admire two men featured in this series. One is Richard Winters, played by Damian Lewis. This man is soft-spoken but with a commanding presence that denotes an inner strength. The interviews with the real Richard Winters demonstrate this. A master of analyzing tactical situations quickly, his men believed in him and trusted that he would make the right decisions. He didn't glorify in war--he hated it, but these things had to be done, so he did them. A drive is underway to get the Medal of Honor awarded to him for the action at Brecourt Manor, which is recreated in "Day of Days".

The same sort of spirit exemplifies West Virginia-born Carwood Lipton, played by Donnie Wahlberg. As First Sergeant, he looks out for everyone, makes sure everyone is where they are supposed to be, and also displays an inward courage that doesn't require histrionics and flag-waving. The First Sergeants are the glue that keeps the unit from losing cohesion. This is the type of patriotism and workman-like "get the job done" attitude that I truly admire. The real life Sgt Lipton is also interviewed in this series. He was very ill at the time, but participated out of respect for his comrades. He passed away not long after these interviews were done.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/2/2004 5:12:25 AM   
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I'd actually have to wonder what other war movie DVD pack it has to compete against?

The Kelly's Heroes DVD Pack? The Battle of the Bulge DVD Pack?

Even the Saving Private Ryan DVD pack? The field really is pretty small.


FWIW...

The Battle of the Bulge has yet to make it to DVD... at least the Henry Fonda, Robert Shaw and Robert Ryan movie version.


Good. It's the 2nd or 3rd worst war movie ever made. Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck is the all time worst war movie ever made.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/2/2004 4:49:45 PM   
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Good. It's the 2nd or 3rd worst war movie ever made. Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck is the all time worst war movie ever made.



Windtalkers with Nicholas Cage gets my vote as all time worst.

BoB is a great addition to any warheads collection.

I wish the Bastogne episode focused on a bit more action than focusing on Eugene Roe (medic).Well, more like mixed feelings on this one.I do like the fact they give great credit to the brave medics.But it is the battle of the bulge so I feel more than two episodes were in order for that one.

My favorite is the 'breaking point' episode and the assault on the town of Foy.

I also like the way they portrayed Lt/Cpt Spears.If you notice in episode 2 that he is hovering around the map at the CP before the brecourt assault.Then he 'pops up' with extra ammo...."command said you mite need some ammo,do you mind if Dog Company takes a shot at the last gun?"....lol...The in 'the breaking point' he charges down the hill to relieve Lt. Dykes and rally the assault on in.When the dreaded 88 fires and Spears come charging/leaping through the blast is just wicked and gives you feeling of courage and power.Although its probably BS to be that close to an exploding 88 round but still,the effect is cool.

I think everyone who watches or buys it will get something out of it.There is a strong sense of 'brotherhood' in it without the 'brothers' not wanting to get to attached to replacements...etc etc.

The package it comes in is pretty kewl.Its a metal, dog tag looking box.But the replay value is great with 10 episodes there is something for everyone in this epic mini-series!!

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/3/2004 7:53:59 AM   
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Its about as good as you can expect a warfilm from Hollyweird.
But I will say the documentary/interview disc was a nice addition.

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/3/2004 7:31:57 PM   
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BOB related Lt Foy was not Killed per the Book, really was promotted by wars end! WPWA
.. West point Weiner Asso.! at its finest.. no offence to the better parts of west point..
pretty amazing!

and my vote for worst modern war movie, excluding everthing from OLiver "Stoned"..
lol is "Thin Red Line"

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/5/2004 8:01:47 PM   
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For those with "money tight" at least in my area in USA, going to a library is worth it, mine locally has a good collection of VHS and DVD's for loan, including the BoB collection and more.


Just took out 5 DVD's including From here to Eternity, Ben-Hur, etc

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/16/2004 4:56:08 PM   
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Good. It's the 2nd or 3rd worst war movie ever made. Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck is the all time worst war movie ever made.


At least Pearl Harbor tried to use realistic weapons and equipment....unfortunately the same cannot be said of Battle of the Bulge!

BoB is a very worthy addition to anyone's collection, however I still can't get over Damien Lewis being cast in the lead role...unless this was a proviso from the BBC...he's a Brit after all?! I can understand some of the lesser characters, but the lead?

Anyhow, The Longest Day and A Bridge Too Far should also be given due consideration as being 'good' in the genre (Cornelius Ryan's books were probably v. hard to adapt by virtue of the sheer scale...but not bad attempts) and 'bad' in the genre would be Battle of the Bulge and Raid on Rommel....which, if I remember correctly even uses snippets of another film pasted in...Tobruk! I think?

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RE: Is "Band of Brothers" The Best War-Movie ... - 12/16/2004 5:28:18 PM   
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BoB is a very worthy addition to anyone's collection, however I still can't get over Damien Lewis being cast in the lead role...unless this was a proviso from the BBC...he's a Brit after all?! I can understand some of the lesser characters, but the lead?


I think they wanted the actors to look like the soldiers they were supposed to be.

I thought Damien Lewis did a good job!

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