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Allied Forces Update... - 1/4/2006 5:09:40 AM

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Tophat is busy and I have time on my hands, so here is a summary of some of the Allied Combat forces as of September 14, 1942:

Land Based Air: Total - 6523; Fighters - 2653, Fighter Bombers - 592, Level Bombers - 2062

That includes Soviet planes, and the Soviets are not currently active.

Naval Air: Total - 607

That only includes Fighters, Dive Bombers and Torpedo Bombers

Combat Ships:

Aircraft Carriers: 6 US Fleet CVs, 2 British Fleet CVs, 1 British CVL

The British carriers all have Seafires.

Battleships: ten 20-knot US BBs, three 28-knot US BBs, four 20-knot British BBs, one 28-knot British BB, one 28-knot British BC

Heavy Cruisers: 15 US CAs, 5 British CAs, 2 Australian CAs

Light Cruisers: six US 2-stack CLs, four US 4-stack CLs, nine British CLs, three Australian CLs, two NZ CLs, 3 Dutch CLs

AA Cruisers: 4 US CLAAs, 3 Brit CLAAs, 1 Dutch CLAA

Destroyers: 140 DDs of various Navies

Only two of the US 20-knot BBs have any damage and are sitting in shipyard ports at SysDam of 14. None of the other combat ships have any significant damage. All ships are upgraded to the latest upgrades with the exception of the two US 20-knot BBs with SYSDAM 14. All ships that are due for the October 1942 upgrades are sitting in Shipyard ports.

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RE: The Bob McNamara theory... - 1/4/2006 9:40:16 AM

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he can't beat you in china fast unless he starves you there

defense and coserve supply
without air campaign aimed in resources ad oil he will not gain much

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Another Hiatus... - 1/6/2006 3:17:31 AM

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Tophat has been busy with Family Life this week, and I am going on a week long pc-free vacation starting Saturday, so this AAR will be dormant for until the week of the 15th.

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/6/2006 12:25:53 PM

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Have a good one Dave.

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/10/2006 5:09:04 AM

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Dave,

When you get back can you post your intel screen for September into the Lunacy games thread?

Thanks and I hope the vacation is enjoyable.

Tom

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/12/2006 2:27:00 AM

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Hey Dave. Is this you in full armor?

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/12/2006 11:06:53 PM

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I've been wondering for months, basically since I first saw Dave's avatar, what (or who) is it?

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/15/2006 5:48:14 AM

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quote:

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Hey Dave. Is this you in full armor?

Hai! That's Keroro Gunsou, aka Sergent Frog.

Actually, Keroro is a master of disguises and shows up all sorts of outfits...

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/15/2006 5:51:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oldsweat

I've been wondering for months, basically since I first saw Dave's avatar, what (or who) is it?

Keroro Gunsou, aka, Sergent Frog, from the anime and manga of the same name. He's the leader of an squad of invading alien frogs in a popular TV Tokyo anime. For more info, http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/keroro/

Cheers -

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RE: Another Hiatus... - 1/15/2006 5:53:25 AM

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Dave,

When you get back can you post your intel screen for September into the Lunacy games thread?

Thanks and I hope the vacation is enjoyable.

Tom

Okay, will do.

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Back from the Coast... - 1/16/2006 12:18:49 AM

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September 14 -

Okay, we're back at it again after another long break. The "rest" seems to have done the Program "good" - a lot more bomber attacks flew this turn than usual. Of course, since Tophat has a lot more bombers in position to attack my forces than I do his, this turned out to be much better for him than me, but my forces were able to keep Mandalay closed.

The turn started out well enough; my Brit night fighters not only flew against Mandalay but even got a hit! I've stood them down again because each time they fly their morale drops precipitously despite the fact that they didn't suffer any losses. Then a Japanese transport ship actually ran into one of the mines that my subs laid at Koepang. This is a very unusual occurrence for my mining efforts.

BTW - Tophat continues to bring a lot of troops, supplies and air units to Timor. He must either want to defend it in the worst way, or is planning to use it as a staging ground against northern Australia.

Next, the Japanese daylight bombing attacks started in a big way. First off, Tophat got all of his Eastern Chinese bombers to fly against Sian. It was impressive, almost like watching two full strikes from the KB. Then Tophat's planes in Southwestern China all took off at once against Wuchow. I had moved a good Brit Mohawk squadron into Wuchow but they were totally overwhelmed by Japanese fighters. There is no way I can contest the air at this time against 80+ crack Japanese fighters in Southern China.

Even Tophat's "trainees" in the Philippines got off the ground for a change and hit some of my remaining trapped Philippine troops. Unfortunately I can't transport my remnants out because there are pieces of equipment left that won't fit into subs. So Tophat continues to get "free" training.

Finally, Tophat sent a group of Betties, accompanied by a group of crack Zeros, against Derby, catching one of my planes on the ground. I've only got 60 experience level pilots in my Australian Hurricanes, so there is no point to sending them up against 80+ experience level Zero pilots. So I'll let Tophat bomb those northern Australia bases for now - I've got little there for him to damage.

I did get one big bombing raid off:
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Day Air attack on Mandalay, at 33, 30

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 111
P-40B Tomahawk x 71
F-5A Lightning x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 129
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Although I'm not able to fly these sorts of attacks much more than once a week, this approach has been keeping Mandalay closed. As usual, all of the Indian bases are covered with thunderstorms this turn, and some of my planes were damaged in the attack, so I've stood everyone down again. My problem is that I don't have enough long range escorts to be able to launch these sorts of attacks elsewhere.

In the ground war, Tophat did the usual artillery attacks in Sian, Hengchow and Kungchang. My forces replied nicely in Kungchang. My forces in Wuchow also tried an artillery attack, but for some reason, despite having a big advantage in troops and artillery, the Chinese there achieved no result against the Japanese.

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Four Chineses Cities... - 1/17/2006 3:09:22 AM

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September 15 -

Tophat finally got WitP loaded and working on the new PC that he got before Christmas. I sent him the v1.602 patch since it isn't available on the Matrix download site any more. Tophat is quite happy with the results from his new, faster machine. I'm just happy that there don't appear to be any "gotchas" occurring from this.

As far as the Game itself goes, the rain returned in a big way this turn. Tophat only got off one big air raid on Sian and his only other bombing run was a training mission in the Philippines. I only had one bomber group set to attack - the Chinese at Lanchow - and they didn't fly.

Tophat has now brought 11 combat units to Wuchow, including three artillery units. The base is at a Level 9 fortification so I expect to be able to tie up those troops for some time. Tophat is also trying to move some troops to the East of Wuchow, but I've got a couple of Chinese units blocking that direction too. Tophat now has four Chinese cities under siege. He is obviously looking very seriously to grabbing victory points in China. That's fine, I've got lots of Chinese units rebuilding in Chungking.

Otherwise, I'm still keeping the vast majority of my Allied ships in port as I await the October upgrades. I've also pulled more of my weaker air units back from the Fronts - there is no point in wasting them at this time. And my engineers keep on building up bases everywhere.

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/17/2006 5:39:38 AM

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September 16 -

This turned out to be one of my better days in quite a while. A number of my air attacks flew while most of Tophat's air attacks didn't. In particular, Sian got a respite from the daily monster attacks that it has been receiving for weeks.

First off, Tophat got a fairly strong attack off on Wuchow that had 50 fighters accompanying 27 Helens. They didn't cause a lot of damage and I don't want to throw small fighter groups against such a large number of escorts, so I didn't mind the cost of not contesting the air over Wuchow.

Next, my newly arrived B-25 Group in India got a chance to hit Mandalay while the Wellingtons were resting:

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Day Air attack on Mandalay, at 33, 30

Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 2
B-25C Mitchell x 51

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29
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This wasn't a "devastating" attack by any means, but it was good for those new pilots to get some easy practice in early on. And the damage did help to keep the airfield at Mandalay closed. Next turn I'm resting the Mitchells and sending the Wellingtons out again. (I have the bomber units at different air bases.)

After this my B-17 squadron in Darwin took off for more practice against Kai Island:

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Day Air attack on Kai Island, at 39, 78

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
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When I upgrade my first squadron of fighters to P-38s next month I'll bring them to Darwin to have them get practice against Kai along with the B-17s. This is only fair since Tophat "happily" sends training missions against trapped Allied troops in the Philippines, such as he did this turn.

My B-17 squadron at Canton Island then hit Baker Island, shooting down another Zero without losing any planes:

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Day Air attack on Baker Island, at 94, 92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Runway hits 1
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I had these bombers at 26,000 feet and they blew right past the Zeros. This helps to keep Tophat a little worried.

But Tophat isn't terribly concerned about the Pacific, other than to want to keep me in check, because he is focusing the lion's share of his effort in China. Here are the forces that Tophat presently has committed in sieges in China:

Wuchow - 11 units: 2 ENG, 4 ART, 5 INF (and two more arrived at the end of this turn)
Kungchang - 12 units: 2 ENG, 1 ARM, 1 ART, 8 INF
Hengchow - 14 units: 2 ENG, 1 ARM, 3 ART, 8 INF
Sian - 25 units: 4 ENG, 2 ARM, 8 ART, 11 INF

Tophat is also pestering some of the units that I have in blocking positions around Wuchow. He has also maintained troops in all other Chinese bases including sufficient forces in his frontier bases to keep me from doing nuisance invasions. As you can well imagine, Burma is very quiet, and I'm not too worried about the Soviet border either.

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/17/2006 2:40:42 PM

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Hi Dave,

How do you feel about China? You feel comfortable there or do you think he will push you back anywhere?

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/18/2006 12:48:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Hi Dave,

How do you feel about China? You feel comfortable there or do you think he will push you back anywhere?

Regards,

Steven

Tophat is very serious about China and intends to try to grab as much as possible in order to go for an autovictory. Fortunately for me he has been splitting his attacks so that he hasn't been able to break through in a big way. He ought to eventually be able to push me out of Sian if he doesn't wait too long, and Southwestern China is at risk too, but he will have to commit more troops. In the meanwhile I am building up my forces in the areas where I will be able to attack most strongly in 1943. I intend to hit Tophat with a number of steamrollers at once. He is already getting antsy about my intentions with my British forces.

So I won't be surprised if Tophat captures a few more Chinese bases during the next few game-months, but that won't change my overall strategy, and in fact it helps because Tophat has committed a number of good units to China that he could be using elsewhere.

Thanks for the comments -

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/18/2006 12:50:37 AM

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September 17 -

I got an idea this turn (always a dangerous thing

) and decided to experiment a bit with the training of my air units in my backwater bases. I've been stymied by the presence of continuously bad weather in my air bases in the West Coast and Australia and haven't been able to train my fighter units very often because of operation losses due to bad weather. But I just thought about the relationship between operational losses and mission distance and was wondering if this had any effect during training. I usually have all of my fighter units set at maximum distance - does that mean that they have that "distance factor" added in when they are on training missions?

I've noticed that Hurricanes and Spitfires tend to get less operational losses than P-40s, but I assumed that was because of the relative size of the squadrons. But I've also seen F4F squadrons receive fairly hefty operational losses during training and many of my Spitfire squadrons are the same size. So to test this out I set all of my training fighters to either a distance of "1" or distance of "0" instead of their maximum distances. Now I'll watch to see if the operational damage rates change or remain the same.

But not all of my planes are on training missions and this was another turn where the weather cleared up enough for both sides to put planes into the skies. First off, the respite at Sian was short-lived as Tophat got both of his regular large-scale bombing attacks off. He is keeping the air field at Sian closed, and also is keeping a lot of crack fighter pilots on escort there, so I am not trying to contest things at Sian. But what's "good for the goose�" holds in this situation as my Wellingtons took off and hit Mandalay very hard again:

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Day Air attack on Mandalay, at 33, 30

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 120
P-40B Tomahawk x 71
F-5A Lightning x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 164
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So Tophat has given up the skies over Mandalay too.

Tophat also got off two bombing raids on Wuchow, but they didn't cause much damage. Therefore, I moved the now rested AVG down to Wuchow to see if I can catch him by surprise. This turn he had few escorts flying with one of his attacks, and none with the other.

In the Northern Australia/Timor Front, some of Tophat's Bettys took off from Timor to hit the air field at Wyndham, destroying a couple of Catalinas on the ground but causing no other damage. I'm getting very tempted to move a large number of P-40Es in to challenge him. We'll see how things go. Tophat has been leaving Darwin alone, so I've been able to continue bombing from there with relative impunity. This turn I forgot to stand down the B-17 squadron in Darwin and they hit Kai again, getting more easy experience:

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Day Air attack on Kai Island, at 39, 78

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 14
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I'm considering pulling this squadron out and putting another in so that they can all share in the practice. Finally, my Lanchow bombers flew for the second day in a row and that was a pleasant surprise.

In the ground war in China Tophat tried a deliberate assault on Wuchow this turn:

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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 126211 troops, 1383 guns, 52 vehicles

Defending force 81042 troops, 495 guns, 76 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)

Japanese ground losses:
3045 casualties reported
Guns lost 93
Vehicles lost 9

Allied ground losses:
551 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
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Tophat had his troops prepare for this siege for a long time. But my troops have been sitting "fat, dumb and happy" for a long time too, so they were able to cause the Japanese a lot of problems. Now that the AVG is in place the effect of the Japanese aerial assault ought to be reduced too. Now all I have to do is remember to turn on my engineers to rebuild the fortifications at Wuchow.

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/18/2006 1:07:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

September 17 -

I got an idea this turn (always a dangerous thing ) and decided to experiment a bit with the training of my air units in my backwater bases. I've been stymied by the presence of continuously bad weather in my air bases in the West Coast and Australia and haven't been able to train my fighter units very often because of operation losses due to bad weather. But I just thought about the relationship between operational losses and mission distance and was wondering if this had any effect during training. I usually have all of my fighter units set at maximum distance - does that mean that they have that "distance factor" added in when they are on training missions?

I've noticed that Hurricanes and Spitfires tend to get less operational losses than P-40s, but I assumed that was because of the relative size of the squadrons. But I've also seen F4F squadrons receive fairly hefty operational losses during training and many of my Spitfire squadrons are the same size. So to test this out I set all of my training fighters to either a distance of "1" or distance of "0" instead of their maximum distances. Now I'll watch to see if the operational damage rates change or remain the same.

I always use a range of '0' or '1' when training and get relatively few Op losses.

Keep up the good work...

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RE: Four Chineses Cities... - 1/18/2006 1:12:47 AM

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quote:

I always use a range of '0' or '1' when training and get relatively few Op losses.

Keep up the good work...

Great! Thanks for the feedback. (It's only too bad I didn't think of this a few games ago...

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The AVG Strikes! - 1/18/2006 5:22:33 AM

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September 18 -

Well, my plan at Wuchow worked quite well. The AVG struck and struck hard. Tophat was pleased that his Tojos held their own, but as I mentioned to him, I'll have better planes very, very soon.

The AVG handled two attacks - the first one being heavily escorted:

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Day Air attack on Wuchow, at 42, 39

Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 13
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 48
Ki-49 Helen x 19

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 7 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 18 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 19 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 1
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The second came from Hanoi and wasn't escorted:

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Day Air attack on Wuchow, at 42, 39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 8 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5
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Tophat also got his usual two big attacks off on Sian while my Mitchells flew against Mandalay again:

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Day Air attack on Mandalay, at 33, 30

Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 52

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 34
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I also got a Hudson squadron to attack the troops and airfield at Kai:

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Day Air attack on Kai Island, at 39, 78

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 9
F-5A Lightning x 3

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
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This is the beginning of a training campaign for my air units in Australia. I've moved the B-17s out of Darwin for now and I am moving in various Dutch and British survivors that have now reached middling levels of experience and need "practical" training now.

BTW - my bombers at Lanchow flew for a third day in a row. That helped my troops when they did their artillery bombardment of the besieging Japanese troops.

At the end of the day, the Japanese had lost 42 planes to various causes, mostly air-to-air combat, against 21 losses for the Allies.

I'm keeping up the pressure this coming turn. First, I pulled the AVG out of Wuchow - Tophat will undoubtedly move a number of his crack fighter units to attack Wuchow this turn. But I've also moved most of my Wellingtons and my crack P-40B unit to Yunan in order to stage a surprise attack on Hanoi.

At the same time, I moved my remaining longer range British bombers to Dacca so that they can continue the aerial bombardment of Mandalay and get some practice too.

The message to Tophat will become clearer and clearer as time goes by; he is still having it "easy", wait until he sees the sky darken with US heavy bombers and long range fighters�

Dave Baranyi

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Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/19/2006 5:14:31 AM

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September 19 -

My attack on Hanoi worked beautifully! The 23rd FG and the Brit Wellingtons came in and blasted everything in sight:

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Day Air attack on Hanoi, at 36, 37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 25
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 74
P-40B Tomahawk x 68
F-5A Lightning x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 20 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 75
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For the day, the Japanese lost 56 planes against 11 lost for the Allies. Of the Japanese losses, 26 were Tojos, 16 were Sallys and 9 were Tonys. BTW - I have well over 100 each of P-40Bs and P-40Es in replacement reserves.

I've now pulled the Wellingtons back to rest and prepare for more action in China, while leaving the 23rd FG in Yunan to "discourage" any reprisals.

Wuchow was a bit cloudy so Tophat's bombing raid there did little damage and I was able to repair and pull back more of the AVG. Tophat followed up that raid with a Tony sweep, but there was nothing in the air to meet him.

No attacks came at Sian for a change; I don't know if Tophat was rained in or decided to pull his better fighters to the Wuchow fray.

I sent my Beaufort VIFs on a daylight raid of the air field at Mandalay. They got a few hits and took a little damage from flak. My planned Brit bomber attack from Dacca didn't fly. I moved the P-5A recon squadron back to Dacca to see if that helps things next turn.

In Northern Oz Bettys and Zeros hit Wyndham again, damaging a couple of planes on the ground. My bombers didn't fly out of Darwin against Kai. I've now got a couple of longer range Dutch fighter squadrons set to attack along with the bombers next turn, so maybe they will take off.

I also set the B-17 squadron at Canton Island to hit Baker Island again. Soon I'll more the rest of that bomber group back together and give Tophat a bigger headache.

Tophat has gotten really aggressive on the ground in China. He moved 4 divisions to the hex between Wuchow and Kweilin and kicked out the Chinese LCU that I had there. I am moving another bigger Chinese LCU out of Wuchow and into the hex to the Northeast in order to prevent Tophat from cutting my troops off from supply.

Tophat is also moving two LCUs back towards Lanchow. He tried that a game-month or two ago and I bombed the Japanese unit into retreating. So I'm setting all the Chinese bombers to hit those two units and am moving my strongest Chinese LCU from Kungchang to Lanchow. I'll have to watch elsewhere to make certain that Tophat isn't sneaking into other dangerous positions.

Ten more days until October! September 1942 has been a long month.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/19/2006 9:53:46 AM

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Watch it, he might have up CAP! (Never repeat a working trick!)

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/19/2006 12:04:41 PM

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Watch it, he might have up CAP! (Never repeat a working trick!)

That is exactly the game that we are playing in China - "Duck the CAP". We both have a number of key air bases and we are both moving our air units from base to base, hoping to catch each other off guard. So while I have no intention of going right back to Hanoi, I still want to hit some of his other targets at the Chinese front.

Tophat is still hoping that he can wear down my US fighter groups in a battle of attrition, but as long as I can keep on getting 2:1 or better quantitative odds in the air I will continue to get better results than he gets. My big concern is to avoid having one of my two good P-40 groups hit by 3 or 4 crack Daitais simultaneously.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/19/2006 6:16:25 PM

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I am playing the same game with Mogami and we are both getting hammered from time to time. Those P40B groups are priceless in the CBI theater but most of the time I keep them sitting at home because they rebuild so slowly.

My Lunacy game is up to September 23rd it will be really nice when the P38s finally show up. Like you I can hardly wait.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/19/2006 11:51:22 PM

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Those P40B groups are priceless in the CBI theater but most of the time I keep them sitting at home because they rebuild so slowly.

That's why I sat them out for so long and carefully horded them. Now when I lose some, I've got the replacements. But I don't want to fight them down to a handful either. As with any of the Allied 1942 fighters, they are only really good if you can swarm your opponent.

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The British are Coming... - 1/20/2006 3:17:58 AM

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September 20 -

This turn Tophat sent his big bomber attacks at Hengchow for the first time in a long while. This meant that Wuchow got a respite as did Sian. That is helping the repair work of my troops a lot. Tophat also sent some bombers after a unit that I have blocking the road to Kweilin, but that unit isn't really important other than to buy time.

All of my bombers in India flew this turn. The Mitchells hit Mandalay first with no damage to themselves, then the mixed British bombers followed and did some damage while getting some practice too. I'm resting all those bombers next turn while I send my crack Wellington squadrons out of Chengtu to hit the Japanese troops at Sian. Tophat hasn't put any CAP over Sian in ages, so this ought to surprise him. <g>

My Aussie and Dutch bombers and fighters flew out of Darwin today and hit Kai Island nicely. I'm resting them again this turn. I've got plenty of time and I don't want to have too many planes under repair, just in case Tophat gets the bright idea to try to do a naval bombardment of Darwin.

Tophat's Bettys and Zeros went after Wyndham again, but I've got less and less there so I don't care. As long as it is a malarial base I'm not going to spend a lot of effort to defend it. Tophat also got off a couple of training missions at the trapped troops in the Philippines. Once my subs are upgraded I am going to send them to the Philippines and try to evacuate the remaining troops. Tophat has had enough "free shots" so I feel no qualms about "resurrecting" the survivors.

My B-17 squadron in Canton Island flew and blew past the Zeros over Baker Island again this turn. Neither side suffered any serious damage, but it means more experience for my pilots. I've now brought the other two squadrons back to Canton and rebuilt the Bomber Group. In a couple of turns I'll send the whole group against Baker - that ought to shake up the Zeros there a fair amount. <L>

Oh yes, my SB-2cs hit Tophat's Mongolian Cavalry on the outskirts of Lanchow this turn. I'll keep bombing them until they retreat again.

BTW - right now the air point score is Allies - 1803, Japanese - 2434. So Tophat has lost a third more planes than I have. I like those numbers. Now if I can only start to cause him to lose more ground troop.

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Hitting Back at Sian... - 1/20/2006 6:11:46 AM

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September 21 -

Tophat's bombers left Wuchow and Sian alone again today. I'm not sure how much of that was caution and how much was rain, but I'm still happy with the result. Tophat did get one light bombing raid off against Hengchow but it did little damage.

In contrast, my Wellingtons hit the Japanese troops at Sian hard twice, with nice casualties achieved and an end result that the daily Japanese artillery bombardment was a fraction of the strength that it usually is at. I'm sitting down my Wellingtons next turn and will decide where I send them next afterwards. There are lots of targets around and if Tophat splits up his CAP I'll do some hunting with my P-40s again too.

My Beaufort VIFs had another nice daylight raid of Mandalay and helped to keep the runway heavily damaged. Next turn the Brit bombers in Dacca will go after Mandalay again.

And my SB-2c and Hurricane squadrons in Lanchow hit the Mongol cavalry hard again. We'll see how persistent Tophat is this time.

Otherwise things are quiet most places other than China. I have a whole bunch of new forces that will be arriving in the South Pacific over the next couple of game weeks. My buildup of the Fronts continues nicely.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/20/2006 9:53:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

quote:

Those P40B groups are priceless in the CBI theater but most of the time I keep them sitting at home because they rebuild so slowly.

That's why I sat them out for so long and carefully horded them. Now when I lose some, I've got the replacements. But I don't want to fight them down to a handful either. As with any of the Allied 1942 fighters, they are only really good if you can swarm your opponent.

Cheers -

Dave Baranyi

Because of that I tried to convince you to retreat your Phillippine airgroups to China/India not to Autralia.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/20/2006 1:23:57 PM

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Because of that I tried to convince you to retreat your Phillippine airgroups to China/India not to Autralia.

Since I was retreating my British airgroups to India and had the AVG there already I felt at the time that I didn't need the USAAF planes from the Philippines too. I expected Tophat to be more aggressive in the PNG region, and he wasn't. But it turned out okay in the long run because it appears that Tophat will make a move in Northern Australia.

What this has meant in the overall picture is that I now have good air forces in both Indian and Australia and overwhelming air forces in the Central and South Pacific. When I start offensives in 1943 I'll be able to crush Tophat's forces quickly. (At least, that's the theory...

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Thanks for the comments.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/20/2006 1:46:13 PM

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The advantage o fthe US planes is their longer range, the Brits have great but shortlegged fighters. P40 are much more flexible in choosing their targets.
I hope the planes will help in Australia now.

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RE: Hanoi is Hammered! - 1/20/2006 6:34:51 PM

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The advantage o fthe US planes is their longer range, the Brits have great but shortlegged fighters. P40 are much more flexible in choosing their targets.
I hope the planes will help in Australia now.

That is certainly true. That's why I left the AVG in India to build up strength. I also knew that I would eventually be receiving the 23rd FG in Karachi. Since I wasn't intending to do any offensive operations in the Far East during the first 8 to 10 months of the War, there was no need to bring other P-40 groups into India.

The big problem with P-40s is their scarceness during the first year of the War. If you waste them you have to wait months to rebuild them. As you said, the Brit planes are good but have short range - that makes them perfect for defensive operations during the first year of the War. Now that the threat of Japanese offensive operations in India has diminished greatly I am able to start using my Brit air units for limited offensive operations of their own.

Right now my main strategy is to keep the air field at Mandalay closed. Japanese bombers at Rangoon become just a minor nuisance that way because the Japanese fighters can't escort the bombers far enough to be a threat. And I am finally making a tactical realignment in Burma - I have a Brit Naval Base Force marching to Alkyb. Once it gets there I'll fly in some Spitfires for aerial defense and then start to build up the base. By Spring 1943 I should be able to start a serious aerial campaign against Rangoon. Once Rangoon is neutralized I'll move forces into the Andaman Islands and be in a position to seriously threaten Malaya and Sumatra by late 1943.

I've got the entire British Fleet, Royal Air Force and the Brit/Indian/Commonwealth forces available, so I'm not concerned about a Japanese attack on India at this time. If Tophat were to try a naval attack on India without the KB I will destroy it easily. If Tophat commits the KB, or some substantial portion of it to an Indian Invasion, I will smash into the Central Pacific with 8 full-strength US Divisions, tons of support troops and the entire US Pacific Fleet.

So time is on my side and I continue to hope that Tophat commits some of his forces outside of China. But if he doesn't then I will still move on at least three fronts in 1943.

Thanks again for the comments -

Dave Baranyi

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