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INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 3:40:12 AM   
marky


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im hyper active, and im 20, so i have bounds and bounds of energy

wat i cant seem to consitently be able to do is turn those energy producers down, or off

i constantly have trouble sleeping

the only time i had no trouble sleeping was wen i was in scool

but having graduated HS almost a yea ago now, i dotn really have anything to suk up that enbergy and bleed me

i dont know wat to do, or how to do it anymore

if uve got a pill, a technique, anything, i have more than an open mind, and i like to think i always do

tho sum yoga wou8ld prolly b good for me, or sum of that other good stuff

just dont say sex, cuz i cant get that right now, and im sure as hell not ready for it lol
(still a virgin)


cmon guys uve gotta have sum kind of trick

today after staying up all night i was so worn out that i went to clean my car, and i left a light on inside, the rear passenger light

and it was on for at LEAST 6 or more hours

good news is that Destiny started right up with no problem

god i love her

only girl i can truly trust

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 3:50:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: marky

hey guys

im hyper active, and im 20, so i have bounds and bounds of energy

wat i cant seem to consitently be able to do is turn those energy producers down, or off

i constantly have trouble sleeping

the only time i had no trouble sleeping was wen i was in scool

but having graduated HS almost a yea ago now, i dotn really have anything to suk up that enbergy and bleed me

i dont know wat to do, or how to do it anymore

if uve got a pill, a technique, anything, i have more than an open mind, and i like to think i always do

tho sum yoga wou8ld prolly b good for me, or sum of that other good stuff

just dont say sex, cuz i cant get that right now, and im sure as hell not ready for it lol
(still a virgin)


cmon guys uve gotta have sum kind of trick

today after staying up all night i was so worn out that i went to clean my car, and i left a light on inside, the rear passenger light

and it was on for at LEAST 6 or more hours

good news is that Destiny started right up with no problem

god i love her

only girl i can truly trust


Ahem, well - you kinda limited my suggestions, but I do have one for you that is garunteed to work - no fooling.

Exercise, working out. Hit the weights and hit the track...it WILL work if you put the effort and discipline into it....not that it'll be THE - MOST -FUN you ever had, but it will pay off oh so nicely in many was for the rest of your life.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 3:58:25 AM   
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Totally agree with Big B, go for exercise - jogging, swimming, etc. Cut down on stimulants such as coke, pepsi, coffee and tea, smoking is no-no . You are young - you have many years ahead and keeping fit is one good and cheap way to live a life- healthcare cost is very expensive. I wish I do what I say. Maybe I will run the marathon.. after practising for many months of course - boy running sure make me feel sleepy.
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 4:30:02 AM   
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well

ive never touched a cigarette, or any kinds of drugs, and i barely drink at all, last drink was in july i think and b4 that new years

i have been working out and swimming and walking

yesterday i went to westwood health and fitness center, which is wher ive been going

my goal was to lift 8 maybe 9 tons worth

i lifted 10

i also swam and walkeda few laps

since going ther ive lost a cpl inches, maybe 20 pounds and my arms r starting to get bigger and bulgier

also im startin to get sum pecs

i havent been able to the last cpl weeks cuz ive been busy, and i got a chunk taken out of my heel, i could barely even wear sandals, so no walking ther

but its healed now

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Ahem, well - you kinda limited my suggestions



i wont be engaging in that particular activity for at LEASt another year
so ill be a virgin for at least a while longer




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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 4:31:09 AM   
marky


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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 6:35:10 AM   
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ne other techniques?


Any free clinics or can you afford to go to a doctor? I know a girl who has insomnia and she was given some medication to help her.

Also ... you under any kind of stress that could be making you not be able to sleep? Stress can do wierd things at times.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 9:24:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The most iimportant thing I've found, and I'm not so hot-wired anymore, is to simply try to eat and do the same things at the same times every day. IOW, the most important points are like an hour before you go to bed and when you're actually in bed. Don't do anything in that last hour that might excite you. Do the calmest thing you have to do at that time. I need not say that you also should watch what hours you take on caffeine and what not. Avoid sugars big time at that hour till, or even earlier. Also don't eat anything that late that will conflict possibly with your stomach, like hot sauces.

In my case regularity of that last hour and going to bed the same hour help immensely. I'm working 3rd shift right now and it's quite a breeze if you do this. I would also urge that you DON'T take naps at any point of the day. Just find some way to stay awake such as a short loud noise to change the pace of what's around you, then get back to whatever it was you were doing. Also know that if you wake and just can't go back to sleep, that the next day's sleep will very likely be much easier.

I suspect you're greatest enemy, however, is the one-more-turn menace, of whatever game you may be playing. In my case I've stopped playing on the computer at least 45 minutes before I hit the hay (yeah, the results on the computer can excite at times). Despite everything else I've said, if you can conquer the one-more-turn menace and go to bed at the same time EVERY NIGHT your worries are largely over. Nerves will still hit you every once in a while and wake you up, as they do me now, but that happens irrespective of your sleeping habits to some degree. I know it must be difficult for you, afterall I remember being 20 and there was no such thing as sleeping regular with me, and I wanted to stay up late simply because my job at the time demanded it, but also because since I was living with my parents then it was just simply at time for some freedom, but then I didn't realize the advantages of a consistent sleep either.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 10:05:16 AM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 10:14:47 AM   
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I suffer from chronic insomnia, it sucks


Sorry to hear that. Any medication or treatment , maybe I can hear your advice.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 12:17:56 PM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 12:57:29 PM   
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Sounds good. I will try that! Hey marky, you hear that?

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 2:24:34 PM   
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Just login every time you're ready to go to bed. Put the monitor by your head in your bed if you must (preferable to falling asleep in the computer chair, since falling out of chair could cause permanent sleep or ruptured limbs) and stare at the following smiley endlessly until you can't stare no more:


Smiley to stare at>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Failing that perhaps Matrix could come up with a screensaver of fence-leaping sheep or something to help insomniacs.

< Message edited by Charles_22 -- 9/18/2005 2:40:45 PM >

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 2:31:46 PM   
patrickl


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Work stress can really get to one. On the other hand a lot of us just don't have enough sleep, well at least quality sleep. That is modern day life - demands of being a father, husband, co-worker, WITP PBEM partner etc. Relying on sleeping pills is bad (provided you can get a doctor to prescribe for you).

Cheers!

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 2:39:36 PM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 3:06:54 PM   
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I suppose the weather plays a part. Here in Singapore, the weather is hot and humid practically all year round, so if you don't sleep in air-conditioning - you just can't sleep!I don't sleep in a/c because of sinus while my wife and daughter sleeps in a/c. I think up in US or Europe the weather should be condusive to sleep esp the winter months.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/18/2005 8:09:44 PM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 5:47:15 AM   
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1-Read for a little bit.
2-Rub one out.
3-Repeat as necessary.

Steps 1 and 2 may be switched.

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 6:07:12 AM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 6:17:01 AM   
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This a little personal but, The advice given to me while in the Navy was:
1-Read for a little bit.
2-Rub one out.
3-Repeat as necessary.

Steps 1 and 2 may be switched.


2 - Rub one out ? Meaning ...
Thkx


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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 6:20:11 AM   
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This a little personal but, The advice given to me while in the Navy was:
1-Read for a little bit.
2-Rub one out.
3-Repeat as necessary.

Steps 1 and 2 may be switched.

If you switch 1 and 2 wash your hands

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:02:50 AM   
marky


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actually b4 i turn out the lights i do rub 1 out usually

usually if i do it jus wen im ready to sleep my eyes start closin on their own

i do read too


doesnt always help tho

ill try em all, wher applicable

thanx guys

i did buy a computer book

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:09:17 AM   
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and lifted 11 tons worth today at health club

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:12:46 AM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:16:43 AM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:20:05 AM   
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thats about the equiv weight of 4 whale sharks....




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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 7:22:32 AM   
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this was my source for the tonnage of the boats... it sounds about right

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mandm/ptboatp1.htm

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 8:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Make sure you go to bed at the same time every night and get up a the same time everyday. Don't watch T.V. and make sure your room is dark. Try reading an old boring text book, seriously. Exersize in the morning when you wake up, not before you go to bed. Something else that you might want to try is a supplement called melatonin. Your body makes this stuff naturally and this is what makes you feel sleepy. You just might not be making enough of this stuff your self and a little boost may be needed.You can get this stuff at any store that sells dietary supplements and is pretty cheap. It is non-habitual and safe. I use it when I get stuck in that non sleep mode. Good luck

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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/19/2005 11:21:18 PM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/20/2005 2:08:01 AM   
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RE: INSOMNIA- OT but NEED help ! - 9/20/2005 2:30:18 AM   
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