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Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 2:18:11 PM

pauk

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As you probably know, Andy Mac and me lost formidable opponent (String) due education obligaitons. Andy kindly agreed for a PBEM, and I will be Japan (what else?) in this game. This AAR will be off limit to Andy...

Scenario 15 and common house rules (no teleport invasions on turn one, no creation of the new allied TFs on turn one, Japan can invade only historical places on turn one, etc...)

You will see some "borrow stuff" from other AAR's (thanks Cap. Mandrake and Feinder!) but i will keep good old fashioned things (combat reports) in AAR as well...

more to come....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 2:20:04 PM

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Ooh, wonderful, got something to entertain myself when I grow bored with drawing and planning

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 2:36:03 PM

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All negotiations with USA failed due uncoperation of white imperialists! Imperial HQ ordered:

1. preventive strike on PH
2. Liberation of the Philipines and Malaya peninsula
3. Liberaton of DEI

1. Based on my experience, PH attack always result with worst than historical results. I'm considering to detach Zuiho and Hosho from mini KB and reinforcing KB. In this case, CVE will join my remaining CVL at Camrah Bay. What do you think guys?

2. Operations on Phi must be finish before February. Imperial HQ approved opperation Thunder. 56th division is attached to "Phi group army", and IJAAF gathering strong air forces which will bomb enemy airbases at Manila and Clark field. IJN will provide air cover with Zeros. When Luzon is cleared these divisions will be used for DEI or somewhere else.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 2:40:41 PM

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Liberation of Malaya (Ish-proch-go)

Ish-proch-go is weakened because 56th division will be used in operation Tunder, but gen. Yamashita can count on 55th division and, if it will be needed, 33th division from BAA. You may notice that Ish-proch-go is pretty conservative and have two possible weak points:

1. reaction of the British fleet from Singapore
2. temporarily Allied air superiority in Malaya. Of course, I'm not worried about Buffalos and such "planes", i'm worried about AVG.

However, i decide it to risk with #1, if Mac decide to intercept my invasion fleet that will be the end of the Z force.

#2. Well, Imperial HQ clearly stated that Phi have priority. If Andy keeps Warhawks on PHI, then those W-hawks will be destroyed and i will have less problems with Java.

Anyway, I'm pretty easy going player, dont like planing for hours. Sometimes (mostly) this is a really disadvantage, but there is one advantage: flexibility to change my plans. So, depends on Andy's playstyle i will undertake needed measures.

Burma

2 tank regiments and one mix regiments. If Andy allow me i will take Rangoon. But it is not a must.

China

No playing "smart-ass" game there anymore. I'm massing division for the Changsha operation. China Command will later develop plans for capturing Sian-Yenen line.

mini KB

As i mentioned before, Zuiho and Hosho can be used for PH attack. Remaining CVL + CVE will provide cover for Kuching invasion (10-12th dec). Borneo invasion is scheduled for 15th dec (app)

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 2:44:18 PM

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I'd keep the baby Kb united. The PH affair is an old issue unfortunately. You can hope to damage all of his BBs but to sink none of them on day 1. If you stay there for few more days you can have some better results( i know i know...the lack of pilot issue).
I'd bypass Luzon. Keep there only the minimum indispensable to hold Legaspi and Clark and let him dig in in Manila. Use some 100 IJA bombers to drain his supplies there and bring everything else attched to the Southern Area Army to Malaya( the 21st and the 38th divs included). Singapore can be a problem with the river assault rule. Be sure to have overwhelming forces when you move from jahore Baru...

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 3:08:27 PM

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thanks, GH...

Probably i'm to big coward but don't like camping at PH. What if he catch me with PT's and DDs around PH during night phase? What about weather? Also not sure what kind of orders to give my pilots (only port attack is very dangerous if he move his CV's to PH). I don't like naval + port attack either (he can form unimportant fleets, or in the worst scenario my pilots can attack single AVD or something)....

Any suggestion appriciated....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 3:25:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pauk

thanks, GH...

Probably i'm to big coward but don't like camping at PH. What if he catch me with PT's and DDs around PH during night phase? What about weather? Also not sure what kind of orders to give my pilots (only port attack is very dangerous if he move his CV's to PH). I don't like naval + port attack either (he can form unimportant fleets, or in the worst scenario my pilots can attack single AVD or something)....

Any suggestion appriciated....

Keep Akagi and Kaga on port/naval and the rest on pure port. With their high exp squadrons those two should be enough to sink both lex and enterprise together should they show up.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 6:51:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pauk

Liberation of Malaya (Ish-proch-go)
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Anyway, I'm pretty easy going player, dont like planing for hours. Sometimes (mostly) this is a really disadvantage, but there is one advantage: flexibility to change my plans. So, depends on Andy's playstyle i will undertake needed measures.
...

Perhaps, now that you found time to do the nice pictures with arrows and stuff, you can devote some time to that planning thing you hate so much

Also, I'm very pleased with the operation "Ish-Proch-Go" name, but then I'm from Croatia too, and I can understand your Japanese

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 8:39:15 PM

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Amazing how many croatians are on this board

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 11:28:36 PM

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Are we gonna have to start beating you off with sticks?...

BTW GH, did you get the graphic I mailed you?

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/20/2005 11:40:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

BTW GH, did you get the graphic I mailed you?

Not at all. I thought you had forgotten and did not want to bother you any further with my requests....can you e.mail it to me again?

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 1:35:11 AM

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Good luck Pauk! I hope you get to use some of my ideas. I only hope you remember them seeing as we didn't drink any beer discussing them

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 5:40:20 AM

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I like the map diagrams going along with. Its a lot easier to understand than words cause I don't know place and unit names. The attack on Philippines looks different from the usual north/south invasion I see usually, noting the westside landings and use of paratroopers.

Please continue including the strategic maps, even it they do take hours to make.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 9:49:42 AM

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Thanks you guys for the kind words (and advices)!

GH: sometimes I am suprised too how many Croats are here (six of us posted here plus at least two who doesnt). Tokyo, i will try and do my best, but sometimes you just cant find the map and/or you dont have enough free time for that.

Anyway, back to the war. Another miserable performance at the PH and I'm certantly not suprised. I've tried everything even divide kate groups, but no why the hell i should sink even just one BB? It seems that new attack on PH is must. Is it clever sending KB E of PH just two hexes?

Other operations proceeding smoothly. No major opposition in the Malaya skies, and my LR CAP from Songhia done his job (protecting invasion fleets at Khota Baru)

I'm pleased with succesful paradrops on Legaspi and Appari. I got this bases turn earlier, and my forces are going to unload in friendly port (no disabling squads). Wake captured.

Other than that i can not cheer but didn't expect miracles when Imp HQ chosed pretty conservative plan. Yes, i can be pleased with numbers of destroyed allied planes (218 total, 42 A2A and 174 on the ground) but this is thanks to Andy - he did not moved planes from Clark and Wake although i did not request that in house rules.

Invasion fleets approach Jolo and Davao. They will start invasion tommorow. Mini KB is at Camrah Bay (i've upgraded Claudes to Zeros, he,he)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41

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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
G4M1 Betty x 50
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 3 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed
B-17C Fortress: 3 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
All G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 66
D3A Val x 135
B5N Kate x 143
F1M2 Pete x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
P-26A x 2
P-36A Mohawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A Val: 6 destroyed, 27 damaged
B5N Kate: 19 destroyed, 60 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
P-26A: 2 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 13 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 37 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 7 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 8 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 18 destroyed
A-20B Boston: 2 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mauna Loa, Bomb hits 1
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DMS Zane, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AO Ramapo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Breese, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1

Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 130

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
23 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
18 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
8 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
8 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 3000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x B5N Kate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 7
Buffalo I x 27
Blenheim IV x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Buffalo I: 11 destroyed, 5 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
CL Jintsu
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied ground losses:
911 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Airbase hits 32
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 235
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Shell hits 6
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba

Allied ground losses:
337 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63

55 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AK Kongo Maru, Shell hits 2
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 2
AP Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
244 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Legaspi

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 941 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 652 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 485 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 652 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1387 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1475 troops, 25 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1522 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 1

Batan Islands fall in Japanese hands too.

SE PACIFIC:

Have no big plans there yet, especially because i transfered South East Detachment for DEI (Kendari). I will take Kaveing and nearby bases and keep there long range Mavis. Rabaul can wait. Am I right String?

DEI: Invasion forces gathering at Palau - NLFs /with BF support and bombardment group/ will take Amboina, 2 SNLFs will take Menado, Kendari is scheduled for app 23. december.

No need for rush. Brunei will be captured but not before Kuching and Jolo.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 11:55:00 AM

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How many forces for Ambonia? NLF units could have some troubles....

Rabaul can wait? sure of that? I mean...the S.S.D won't make any real difference in SRA and DEI, while it can easily master Rabaul. IMHO, the soonest you take the solomons and NG, the soonest you start fortyfying and dig in ( building mutual-supporting AFs and ports).

How many divisions for Malaya?

for PH...seems that you had a real bad dice and roll...very few Kates using torpedoes...will you try another run? Normally i do not do that beause i like to keep my crack pilots alive... Under a certain point of view PH is usefull just because it disables the american pacific fleet. These BBs won't get into combat any sooner than 4/6 months...the objective is already achieved IMHO.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 12:30:30 PM

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all NLF's (including one from Guam) so it's 4 or 5. in my experience that should be enough (+SBF and naval bombardment)

Rabaul will wait, but not for to long. I've tranfered SEE into SAA because i want these operations finished ASAP. When I secure Kendari SEE will go to Kupang. You are right, it is certantly better to fortify Solomons and NG soon as possible, but i want to see how other operations going. I'm focused on PHI right now.

For Malaya: 18th div, 5th div, Imperial Guard, 55th, 33th and 21th will join latter. Also, all except one mix brigade (35th - Kuching) are assigned for Singapore.

I've just send Andy turn and after long thinking i decide not to go for another run. I also want to keep my crack pilots alive, especially when you dont have guaranty that some of BBs will be sunk in next run (made two tests and in both only bombs were droped from Kates

).

PH, as you mentioned, is old issue. It is really sad that very rarely you get even one BB and what is even more dissapointing is that all BBs will be into action well before history. Well, our Allied fanboys friends are pretty quiet about PH

: I guess they are occupied with rant against to low night exp of the American ships....

I'm considering to send KB on PH-San Francisco line, maybe i will be lucky....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/22/2005 1:40:58 PM

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Hi Pauk, glad to see you back in action

Good luck for your AAR.

quote:

PH, as you mentioned, is old issue. It is really sad that very rarely you get even one BB and what is even more dissapointing is that all BBs will be into action well before history. Well, our Allied fanboys friends are pretty quiet about PH : I guess they are occupied with rant against to low night exp of the American ships....

You're right. After discovering the "double strike bug" the devs toned down PH strike a lot. Now the results are absolutely not historical.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 12:02:29 AM

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thanks inver. You are right, but who cares

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

Philippines

Situation is pretty clear from the picture, I hope. However, i would like get input form you guys. Do you think that 4 divisions (+ 2 big SNLFs+Eng+tanks) will be enough to capture Manila? 21th div is send to the Malaya, and Philippine Group Army waiting for 38th and 2nd div (2th preparing for Manila, 38 will start preparing for CF after fall of HK)

DAVAO and JOLO: shock attack ordered for tommorow.

China

It seems that Andy will put pressure on the Canton. I have only one big Naval Gaurd, but send 2 SBF there. Hope that will be enough until reinforcement division (from east of Canton) arrive in the city.

Malaya

18th div and mix brigade unloaded at Khota Baru. Shock attack is ordered for tomorrow. Let's hope for the best. AVG shows in Singapore and escorted bombers on naval attack mission (my fleets at KB and Songhia) Fortunatly, no big loses to my beloved Oscars

Also, harrasment air attack come form Kuatan. Fast BB TF ordered to bombard Kuatan and withdraw to the safe waters. Transports from KB are also order to withdraw except few of them (unloading supplies). Unloading at Songhia proceeding and one Zero daitai in Songhia is on the LR CAP mission.

Right now, i can't do anything special against AVG, i have to wait until i have at least 2:1 advantage (with Zeros) against AVG. At least, it was good decision to start Malaya campaign conservativly.

What is the best way to deal with those american mercenaries?

COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS

at DavaO

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Natori
DD Minazuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Sawakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Wakatake
DD Kuretake
DD Sanae

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
AK Mauban, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Montanes, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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ASW attack at 26,45

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami
DD Uranami
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 2, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 18
Blenheim IV x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 9 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai

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Day Air attack on TF, near Taytay at 39,53

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AVD Childs
PG Isabel, on fire, heavy damage
PG Asheville, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 43,55

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 3

auxilary carrier force is formed. It consist of three AV and one CS.
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Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 751 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 12:21:13 AM

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Very nice maps and a good execution so far Pauk! Will follow your exploits... I hope this is a game that will be
played to the end!? Too few of them on this forum really. I'm going into late 1943 without knowing what's around the corner,
but that's just how I like it

What about a second round of Hangover if you finish your business in the PI and DEI quickly!?

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 12:44:47 AM

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thanks, Conqueror

(or it is Defender of the Crown?).

I'll do my best and i'm planing to play to the bitter end. That's why i play pretty carefully - i want to keep morale (my, not my soldier's morale) high and preserve my naval and air forces for future defense.

So, no rush for now although i will try to deal with white imperialists quickly. As i mentioned before, Imperial HQ has "elastic offensive" plan, which means that new target will be choosed depending of my opponent moves. My intention is strong hit at his weakest point.

But, i have one intersting idea. Attacking Townsville! If i took this base (and nearby Charters Town) early in the game i will divide Australian troops and after that i can invade Darwin. Also, it is nice to know that in Cairns are points for strategic bombing (300 (x2)=600 VP

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But India stays at first place for now....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 1:42:52 AM

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Don't be too cautious with your pilots Pauk! It's possible to train replacements in China you know.
Strike hard and vicious now as your planes are superior both in number and quality.

India is such a big gamble that it is wiser to look another way if you can't land in force by April 42.
(If you and your opponent hasn't agreed to ban the 'backdoor' approach that allows troops to be shifted
by changing their HQ, you should also think twice about invading India!)

Townsville is an 'old UV' target and as far as I can remember it seldom resulted in divine victory

Perhaps a very bold move against Brisbane? Gather as many divisions as you can and feint
an invasion of Townsville and Darwin - preferably after an early capture of New Caledonia!?

My Jap opponent in my Allied scen 15 game invaded Perth!!..and almost captured it *phew*. If Japan holds this
base it's possible to deny this sea route to India, destroy large amounts of Allied industry and resources
and divert their troops. The base force there can only accomodate 30 ac and it's a looong way from anywere.
You should have at least 2 and perhaps as many as 4 weeks to capture the place before reinforcements can
arrive in strength.

Accomplish this and it could become possible to conquer all of Australia! That would make you immortal

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 2:02:51 AM

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Oh NO!!! Don't go for the ego! Easily inflatable goods

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 2:49:06 AM

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He has already joined the dark side Honda...it's his dessstiny!

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 11:33:23 AM

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What interesting idea PzB! Perhaps you know if Japan get stragic victory points if he take base with ground units? (I don't play for victory points, but i think it is a good way to make pressure on Andy and force him to make "divine" mistakes. Of course i will continue if i achive 4:1 ratio). Main problem is that Perth is far away and it would require a presence of KB (or reinforced mini KB with Akagi, Shoho and Kaga?). What is your oppinion about schedule for this un-ortodox operation?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Operation Ish-proc-go proceeding smoothly. Troops are continue unloading at Songhia and Bandou without loses. What is more pleasing is that my BB TF caught his planes in Kuatan. Obviously he transfered them last turn and it was mistake. Personally i would put them in inland bases. But i won't complain about that. 22 planes destroyed on the ground (7 vildebeests 6 precious T-hawks (AVG i think) and 2 swordfish). Unforutnatly i have not additional force to finish his damaged planes on the ground.

Of course it isn't decisive victory, but such a things can impact opponents morale. Especially when he haven't to show anything in return.

My only concern is B17 in the Singapore. When they can be in Singapore? What to do now. I don't want start air bombing campaign of Singapore before i have 100 Zeros for escort...

KB refuleled and sent into ambush NE of PH.

Jolo and Davao captured. Both bases are operational now. Kaveing will fall next turn.

Philippines

16th div finished unloading and marching towards Naga. Air strike ordered on Manila.

China

First assault on HK went more than good, but i ordered to rest my troops before final assault. Andy moving their units towards Wuchow and Nanning, but if he want this base, i will let it. Canton is weak point for now and i need to secure this base. Meanwhile i'm massing divisions at Wuhan for Changsha operation. I will try isolate Changsha troops, but it will be difficult.

COMBAT HIHGLIGHTS

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Sub attack at 42,49, near Lingayen

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf, hits 2, on fire

good, ASW is working

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Naval bombardment of Kuantan, at 24,47

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 4 destroyed
Hudson I: 2 destroyed
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
CL Jintsu
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 26

so far 4 swordfish are destroyed
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Sub attack at 25,45

Japanese Ships
AK Nagara Maru
PC Ch 7
PG Tatsumiya Maru
MSW W.2
MSW W.1
PC Shimushu
DD Murakumo

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 2, on fire

another good hit. Yupee!
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Sub attack at 40,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

she sinks little later

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Day Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 38,59 form Tarakan

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

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Day Air attack on TF at 26,46

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
P-26A x 11

No Allied losses

they did not attack???
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,58

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Escalante R, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Day Air attack on TF at 41,58

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 3
E13A1 Jake x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Elcano, on fire
AK Escalante R, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Day Air attack on TF at 41,58

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 3
E13A1 Jake x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sarangami, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

look at that lovely float plane carrier force!
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Day Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 44,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Celebes Maru

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Day Air attack on TF at 26,46

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Vildebeest IV x 11

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Ryoyo Maru
PG Eiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sanura Maru
PG Uji, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PG Eifuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

aux ships done their job-protecting the AP's
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,61

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Day Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 39,59

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Day Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 42,59

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Magallanes, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Luzon, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Day Air attack on TF, near Bacolod at 42,57

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

you just have to love them
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Sub attack at 33,55

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
TK Mindanao, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 54217 troops, 534 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 12492 troops, 117 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
505 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
596 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 30024 troops, 355 guns, 15 vehicles

Defending force 7361 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
663 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 4:29:44 PM

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Brisbane and Sydney will each give you some 2700 victory points I think, Noumea another 1500 or so.
Put on the thumb screws in this area and I promise you that you will get all the attention you want

Perth is worth about 250 points but it's strategic and psychological value is much higher. Yes, you need to
send a carrier division to protect a landing force. 2 divisions, 2 engineer regiments and a large base force
would be suitable I think. If you could expand the base and place 40 Zeros and 40 Bettys here it would be
veery difficult for the Allies to wrest the place back from you.

I'm pretty sure that this is what Mike wanted to achieve in our game. He landed a full division, engineers and
eventually 1-2 tank regiments at Perth. The Australian brigade and base force behind 7 forts managed to repell this
attack, but it was a close call. At one point the Japs achieved a 1-1 odds.

It's a pretty wild idea, but it certainly surprised me and holds some promise...

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/23/2005 7:00:45 PM

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Hmmm, lot's of points but looks it will be hard. Well, we shall see...

10th December, 1941

Small detachment of 65th brigade couldn't hold Lingayen aganinst 21th PA division and Lingayen is in Allied hands. Enemy forces will have 150 or so supply more and i have to live with this, for now. Air strike on Manila aborted due bad weather - i'm hoping that tomorrow my samurais will be able to fly. Kaveing captured.

recon reported 47 fighters and 23 bombers in Singapore. They don't have valuable target because my troops disembarking out of their range. No sign of Dutch fleet or Z force, but i have to be very careful...

NOTE: some ships are sank, but all of them are heavily damaged and i don't expect that any of these enemy ships will survive.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 5:09:18 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41

Slow BB TF (protection fleet for Kuching invasion) intercepted (just as i hoped) and sank 2 MSWs, PG and AVD Childs north of Kuching. During the daily phase, Kates from mini KB caught precious reward - Pro Patria done with her duty. But she managed to mine Kuching port and i have to expect some hits on my transports (having 3 MSW in my invasion fleet). Andy finally know where is my baby KB. So far, i have to be pleased with decision of placing baby KB in South Chinese sea instead of classic solution - Celebes sea.

"Auxilary carrier force" scored some hits against enemy AK's. This force will continue pursue enemy ships north of Borneo. Betty's from south PI bases were succesful too. All in all 8 AK's, 1 PG 2 MSW and AVD are sunk yesterday.

Tarawa captured.

Philippines

Air strike from Legaspi worked perfectly - 11 enemy planes shoted down for one zero. All in all, he lost 30 planes and me 8 (mainly from ops loses, phew!)

I've ordered combined strike (from Appari and Legaspi) for tomorrow - Manila and Clark will feel divine wrath! I desperatly need to free three Zero groups assigned to the Philipine group Army for Malaya. Saigon are in the danger of air strike from Singapore with B-17.

16th division came to Naga with Eng rtg, Shuzan NG and Kure 1st SNLF, but i will wait for tomorrow when 56 div and Tank rtg joins the bulk of my army. It is better to wait one day then get 0-1 odds and lose time to recuperate (3 days?), don't you think?

Hong Kong falls and 38th division starts preparing for CF (65 Bde also preparing for this base). I'm not sure what to do with 2th div? This units traveling to Legaspi (PP-Manila) but i can assign division for CF? what do you think, do I have enough forces on the south for Manila? see map from post #3

Khota Baru will be liberated tomorrow, but i will mainly use Alor Star and Georgetown for air strike missions on Singapore. Air support (aviation rtg and Air Div HQ) embarks on the transports. I will disembark troops in Songhia and send them to Alor when i captured this base.

In my ideal plan i will strike at the same day. First (primary mission) with Army bombers from the Alor and Georgetown and with Betty/Nells with secondary mission although i'm reluctant about using my precious toys for ground targets. Strong escort will be provided, of course. But, i will start Divine Wrath-go only if i see opportunity to catch his torp bombers on the ground. What do you think guys?

COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
G3M Nell x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 85
Ki-48 Lily x 26

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 2 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 12 destroyed, 1 damaged (actually, only 6 W-hawks were destroyed)
PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed
B-17C Fortress: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 20

All bombers bombing at 15000 feet

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Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 49539 troops, 522 guns, 16 vehicles

Defending force 11876 troops, 93 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
205 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
11566 casualties reported
Guns lost 83
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 29374 troops, 329 guns, 15 vehicles

Defending force 7362 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
410 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 5:35:09 PM

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Pauk, what a brutal campaign. I don't envy your allied opponent. I do hope you go on a major conquest of Australia. I'd really like to see the effect of Perth getting captured. Would putting a big pile of planes there not drain you from other areas? I'm thinking if the IJN expands too much they can get overextended and weakly defended? I'm not sure about this. Please help with advice.

You sure got things worked out pat in every area. I wonder how your prowess would do against an allied brute like Tom Hunter or Fiender.

Anways, just wondering... are your Petes and Jakes based out of Davao? Sorry for dumb question. I didn't know those little fellows could dish out the hurt so well.

I may have to reread this AAR again sometime. My slow brain had trouble taking in all that info.

Kick some butt dude. Thanks for the nice maps.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 6:19:23 PM

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Hi Tokyo, thanks for kind words, but i'm sure that I don't deserve it. Although it's look like Japan doing great job, actually it is a normal situation, or better to say, me as Jap player here did not achive any *real* success here. Like I said it is normal in the first couple of month (if you want to see how much good job can Allies do, check in my previous AAR European Clash: String vs pauk).

As you probably know, Andy Mac (my esteemed opponent) have AAR of this PBEM too (we can not look at each other AAR's and appriciate not giving us advices BASED on knowledge gained by reading other AAR

)... so you can check there and i'm pretty sure that Andy is not scared at all....

So, i'm not good player as you can think (just ask my opponents), probably these drawnings impressed you

. I'm sure that Andy will be formidable opponent, but you are right TH and Feinder are killers!

Australia is tough nut to crack. IMO, offensive on Australia is worth only because you are delaying offensive on Dutch East India (called SRA). Defense of SRA and protecting your oil fields is #1 priority! So you are right - Japan can easily overextend and that is a big problem. So, i'm sure that most players go for major offensive in 42, conquer everything they can but then fortify on the the "historical" defensive perimeter (Marshall islands etc)...

PETES AND JAKES: They are based on "auxilary carrier force" (what a pretentious name for that, it isn't wierd that you are abashed (?)

). This so called ACF consists of one CS Mizuho, and three AV's (seaplane tenders). If you look again at the picture you will see transport designation - this is so-called ACF. I'm using this ACF because i know there is no allied opposition in the air so early in the game + transports don't have significant AA rating. Soon as finish transports fleeing form Manila i will assign them to the normal missions : naval search and ASW.

And there is no dumb question. I often find myself that i don't know some stuff that i should know after more than year of playing WiTP. Keep on going, ask questions on the forum and you will be master of this game in less than a year. Of course, only if you join the dark side

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 7:20:37 PM

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Hi Pauk, as for the Australian operation, seizeing Perth should IMOO be a major operation. I would send at least 3 divisions in first wave and some Tk Rgts that will then go along the road to see Allied units coming.
The trick is that I will have 3 other divisions and transports in the area. As soon as the Allied are coming to Perth, I will load several divisions and land on their rear in Sidney/Canberra sector.
Problem is that both operations need KB support and that will leave KB in the SW corner of the map for a long time.

Same plane works probably better in Brisbane/Townsville area. Draw Australian units where you want them and then board ships and land behind them. On this coast you can have CV at Lunga or Rabaul, close enough to sail to the Pacific if needed.

The next question is: where do I find 6-8 divisions ? And the shipping to carry them ? And the supplies to fight there ? Basically the supplies are allready there and the factories too. But the main problem in invading Australia is that you will then fight a lot of troops that usually are stuck there.

IMOO the best use of Perth for Japan is as a raid target. Send the whole KB with a hord of cruisers and BB and then pound the base for 3-4 days. The ships bombard the airfield and the plane bomb the factories, oil and ressources. In summer 1942 you should be able to score more than 1000 points in one of this raid. Then landing 4 divisions and taking the town is even better as you will half the HI here (and then half it again when the Allied took back the place).
In this case you can use troops that usually garrison Timor, Java and so on. With the mighty Japanese fleet around the probability of an Allied landing is not so high. The idea being to retire after taking Perth and routing the garrison. And to bring back the troops in Timor and Java.

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