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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 7:37:10 PM   
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thank for advices Amiral... im pretty reluctant to turn Australia into battlefield for the reasons you mentioned. So i have to agree with you - offensive raid (combined hit (from air, sea and invasion) and run mission is probably best solution for me.

One is for sure: for any kind of invasion on the Australian ground (or India) i need to finish the job in SRA pretty quickly. But i don't want lose my air and naval striking forces, so i have to find balanced approach bettwen time and acceptable losses (I'm genius, right?)

IMO, one of the key factor will be Koepang... here is current situation in DEI:





Menado inv group will be used for Koepang, while South sea detachment is going to occupy Kendari. I have to be fast, but cautious (another smart move by me), don't want to find light inv force faced with Z force or combined allied fleet.... so far, Andy uses even dutch subs for evacuating, but you never know....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/24/2005 7:59:14 PM   
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When Mike hit Perth in our game he landed 1 division, 1 engineer regiment - and later 1-2 tank regiments.
This force was supported by a heavy cruiser TF that bombardet Perth several times. The forts were only reduced once, to lvl 6
and a 1-1 odds was achieved before he decided to retreat.

So I would say that 2 divisions, 2 engineer regiments and 2 tank regiments would be sufficient.
A full division + engineers would be sufficient as a garrison - and it is possible that even such a modest force could tie up
a large number of Allied troops for quite a while and open up numerous possibilities.

So there would be both a tactical and strategic value to capturing Perth...especially if you want to land other places in Oz and perhaps
New Caledonia.

But I agree with you Pauk, finish your business in the DEI and on the PIs and then decide where to go next.
Territory shouldn't be a goal in itself, it's the destruction of Allied war materiel and the reduction of their ability to wage war that
should be your main objective.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/25/2005 4:00:47 AM   
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I like the strategic talk from the crusty veterans. Good food for the brain and very interesting. Pauk, do it man! Smack down Perth so we can enjoy the carnage too. You got the goods dude.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/25/2005 8:55:49 AM   
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I'd follow Admiral on this. The raiding option is the way to go for Japan. You need to mantain a certain degree of Flexibility with your crack divisions. Garrisoning Perth and western Oz will mean expose your eastern flank to an earlier US pacific advance. Better to go there, distrupt everything and then go back, keeping a strong mighty force at your disposal for every possible scenario that may arise.
Same goes for Pacific. If you see that your opponent is massing his troops somewhere ( Canton Island...Palmyra or whatever)....go there with 4 divisions, take all those yankees as POWs and then go back, leaving there a small garrison just to be sure.
it worked well in my game with MC...i manage to wipe out of the war 2 entire us divisions and some 3 regiments/Bdes

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/25/2005 6:33:40 PM   
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Not so eventful turn, but i've decide to post screen because i accidentaly, just before i've ended turn, saw allied naval force. My air search did not reported it, so Andy probably thinks he is unspoted. Of course, it could be something else (transport fleet) but i don't believe... too many ships together....




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/12/41

Another MSW and couple of enemy transports were sunk. My I-force have a good turn - 5 succesful attacks.

Manila and Clark Field were attacked and Emperor can be pleased with results: 25 enemy planes destroyed on the ground. Allies lost 39 planes while i lost 7 planes (4 of them were ops loses).

Andy lost 12 ac in A2A during opposing Kuching invasion (shock attack ordered for tomorrow). My samurai's did it well, but when i saw that two T-IV got trough CAP and attacked Hyuga my heart start pumping faster. These crappy planes can be really nasty. I'm well known as most unfortunate player, but this time no reason to cheer for Andy....

Back to the Philippines. Andy reinforced Naga with one tank unit and two base forces. I've ordered deliberate attack (two divisions+SNLF+naval guard+eng rtg). Lets hope that i will get 2-1 odds because i have only one division preparing for Naga.... If i can take Naga in next two days, bulk of Philipine group army will enjoy Christmas eve in Manila... oh, wait...

Kido Butai is now located NNE of PH. Subs spoted one ship. Andy probably reconing area looking for my KB. I've ordered KB to move further (north). Don't want to see 140 Kates attacking single AP....heh...

81nd and 91nd naval guards embarking on ships together with BF for Brunei invasion. Fuel transport fleet (58.000) protected with 6 DD's heading for Jolo. Lot's of fuel and supply transports going to Palau. I don't want to found myself without fuel and supply for upcoming operations


COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS


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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 3
T.IVa x 2
Martin 139 x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed
T.IVa: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii
CL Yura

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Day Air attack on TF at 29,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 2
T.IVa x 2
Martin 139 x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
T.IVa: 2 damaged
Martin 139: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x T.IVa launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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ASW attack near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese Ships
DD Natsushio
AP Kaika Maru
PC Shonan Maru #7
PC Shonan Maru #6
MSW W.6
MSW W.5
MSW W.4

Allied Ships
SS KXV, hits 1, on fire

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TF 115 encounters mine field at Kuching (28,56)

TF 115 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56


Japanese Ships
MSW W.6
MSW W.5
MSW W.4
PC Shonan Maru #7
AP Kaihei Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 115
164 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Kashii, Shell hits 2
AP Haisho Maru
AP Meisho Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire
AP Kaihei Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Gosei Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Yura

Japanese ground losses:
1075 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28887 troops, 312 guns, 13 vehicles

Defending force 6871 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
289 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
202 casualties reported
Guns lost 5







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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/26/2005 3:21:45 AM   
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Pauk dude...

Landing at Kuching always guarantees the IJN a bloody nose from the coastal guns doesn't it? The cost in damaged ships and damaged & disrupted infantry seems very high. Is there any alternative to just sailing up and taking your your kick to the nads like a man? Like how about a bomber raid on the port? I guess that would involve long range naval bombers which are too valuable to use on land targets? Would a heavy duty preparatory bombardment from a BB/CA TF be worth it or just get bigger ships damaged? Please advise.

Sorry if I missed something earlier in this AAR but what kind of fighters do you have on the baby KB north of Borneo? You seem to have zeros in your combat reports with no claudes so did you upgrade the claudes on your CVs in Japan and Paulu before departing? Seems unlikely cause they need time to repair after the upgrade. I need advice for Japan so I don't make another big sticky mess like last time.

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/26/2005 4:08:56 PM   
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You are learning fast. BB bombardment is welcomed if you don't need AF imediately. But i need Kuching AF operational when i capture it. That's why i don't bomb bases at the begining of the game (i will bombard Batavia but Kuching is extreme valuable base for Japan at the start of the game (air threat to Palembang, Batavia and Soerbaja and surrounding waters). So i would rather have some disrupted squads (i can rest them in malaria free bases) and couple of small AP sunk - have plenty of them) then un-operational AF (allies can use B-17 to keep this AF closed for longer because i don't have nearby AF for LR CAP over Kuching).
I've had situations that obsolete swordfish's and T-IV put torpedo in my BB's so i don't want to risk them if it not neccesary + i've lost contact with enemy fleet which was located on the east shore of Borneo.

For now, it seems that Andy playing Sir Robin defence, but he can suprise me and kick my $ss. If he continue to flee from PI, DEI, there is nothing much i can do it about. I can not catch him, so there is no reason to risk.

KB - i've upgraded Claudes to Zero on turn 1. Then i waited two or three turns for repairing damaged zeros. Then i've send baby KB to the south. No need for waiting until all Zero become operational, allied players don't have long range fighters at the start of a game. Now mini KB is fully operational, as we can see

MORE:

Always put at least one CL and couple of DD's in your invasion fleet - it will reduce effect of enemy fire during invasion.

- BB's and CA will not suffer any damage on bombing mission - only the bigger guns can damage CA's and BB's and they are (guns) located in Singapore, Manila, Batan, PH....

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RE: Pauk's corner: sake break for Japanese fanboys - 10/26/2005 5:59:29 PM   
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Gen Hoepp, couldn't agree more about exposed eastern flank in the Pacific during Perth campaign. I'm assume that Andy will be catiuos with his carriers, so i certainly can live with one or two raids on Marshalls while i executing (for now imaginary) east Austrailia operation. But, on the other side, what if I can trapped Andy and destroy his carriers. It could be done in this way. One or two unimportant landings in Pacific without (visible) air support from KB and after that going for Canton? I have feeling that Andy would react, but can't play expecting something like this.... I guess i have "classic" IJN officers character - i'm coveting (?hope) "decisive battle" but i'm wobbler at the same time


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41

ok, back to job...Not so eventful turn but pretty interesting..

DEI

Some of my AP's at Kuching suffered heavy damage from the mines and coastal guns, but nothing serious. 35bde with support unit (SBF) easily kicked out Dutch soliders form base. I've moved one recon and one mavis chutai into Kuching and Oscar daitai.


My brave marines unloading at Tawi tawi and Menado. Strong PT flotilla (10 pt reported) approaching Menado waters so i've formed SC TF (5 PC/PG) from escort for protection. Also i want to see if these aux ships can fight against PTs.

"Aux carier force" again scored plenty of hits on enemy AKs and TKs. To be honest, not so many transports from PI survived...heh...

Unfortunatly, i've lost contact with enemy fleet but suprisingly i've found three enemy DD's in Kuching wathers during day phases. Kates from baby KB attacked AK's (!?) but forutnatly Betty's from Kuching caught them. So far I can't count on LBA from Saigon - due the bad weather they did not attacked yet! Baby KB heading for Saigon (refuel&rest)and after that will support Tarakan invasion...

Allies launched several strikes from Singapore, but with no results. Mutsu was hit with two bombs - klonk, klonk.... 7 enemy planes lost due to AA fire.


TF 115 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56


2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW W.6
MSW W.5
MSW W.4
PC Shonan Maru #7, on fire

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 115

98 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #7, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Kashii, Shell hits 2
AP Neikai Maru
DD Natsushio
CL Yura, Shell hits 1
AP Gosei Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Choko Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
307 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pope

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Peary, on fire
DD Pope, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1

HEHE

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Pope, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Peary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage




PHILIPPINES

Manila and CF again raided!(7 destroyed ac on ground) No significant resistance over these bases and two zero daitais transfered to the Camrah Bay. With upgrading F2 Yamada daitai soon i will have 4 zero daitais for Malaya.

Well i got 1-1 odds at the Naga, but fort is coming down. Tomorrow will arrive additional force and then we will get through Naga with brutal force... I'm interested where will Andy make last stand: Manila is not going to be fortified more than level one (and 4 div approaching M.), so i would choose CF....

Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 58773 troops, 600 guns, 77 vehicles

Defending force 12416 troops, 121 guns, 60 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
832 casualties reported
Guns lost 39
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
384 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 5


CHINA

Im still gathering forces for Changsha, but already started limited offensive:

Japanese Shock attack (my division crossed river north of Changsha and easily defeat chinese peasant corps:)

Attacking force 20141 troops, 239 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7093 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
280 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Day Air attack on 62nd Chinese/A Corps, at 41,39 (SW of Wuchow)

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet



Well i have opportunity to train Nates, so why not?

PS... i often changes AAR format (im disorganised person:)but hope that you can follow action despite that....

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Big Question List from Dumb Newbie - 10/27/2005 7:49:16 AM   
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Hi pauk, thanks for the lesson so far. I didn't know Kuching had an airbase so not bombarding makes sense now. About the claude upgrades on the CVEs at game start, leaving them in Japan & Paulu for several turns to repair some of the new Zeros misses the big 20 move bonus on Dec 7 so is it possible to move the CVE's to another port closer to the SRA like in Taiwan or Saigon if reachable and then do the upgrade and refit period? That would reduce the time to get there later by using the bonus move, no? I'm probably making a mistake of some sort here.

How do you use paratroopers at the start? You dropped them on the Philippines like in Legusi (spelling?) and Aparri which was nicely done but I didn't know the air transports can reach that far. I've never used paratroopers so I don't know. How do you get them to shock attack on the same turn?

I notice in AARs that Wake Island can also be taken by shock attack on the first turn. Is that done with the default troop transports already set up to go there? (I do know about sending the 'Guam' cruiser force to bombard Wake but that's all). In my game now which is my first ever, some ships landed soldiers on Wake without my orders and they all starved and were bombarded to death.

About the AV's and jakes/petes. How do you get the Jakes and Petes to load onto the AVs at gamestart before moving to a combat area? I heard for CV's you have to like use a transport and put the planes on them and then ship them to the CVs I think so do AV's work the same way? Do they have to be in port to do this? Can they get the bonus move with the seaplanes on board?

Hehe, that's a lot of questions. I'll have to start paying tuition soon.



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RE: Big Question List from Dumb Newbie - 10/27/2005 10:23:49 AM   
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Yes, that's lot of questions. Maybe we could start new thread in the main forum section.

1. I send CVLs to the Camrah (you can send them to the Saigon too) on the first turn. There i've upgrade them on turn 2.

2. paras: didn't know that too before. It seems that you can drop them futher than max range; same goes for transporting LCU units from base x to base y. Paras always shock attacked when they dropped.

3. If you using Guam bomb. TF Wake will always fall on turn one. I'm using historical troops for Wake (no additional force)

4. AV's have their own float planes (at least those you have at the start). They are working like CS (carrier for float planes)

of course, the best way to learn mechanics and lawa of the WiTP is own-making tests. hope this helps


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Ish-proc-go without changes - 10/27/2005 7:59:13 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/14/41

As I expected, Singapore became base for B-17s, they attacked Kuching. Also, bombers from Sinkawang attacked my ships nearby Kuching & Kuching AF. Weather is now allied ally (tunderstorms in Saigon... partly cloudly in the Singapore). After long discusing, imperial HQ decide not sending Zero's to Kuching for two reasons... AF is at 42 damage (yesterday was 44) and Zeros will be fatigued (above 20). Besides that, imp HQ still believe that our air forces can suprise american mercenaries (AVG) at Singapore. We have to be patient, Ish-proc-go is based on cautious advancing and sudden tsunami strike from the air. This will be possible when Georgetown falls to the japan hands.

Two divisions (Imp G and 5th + eng rtg) ordered for shock attack on Georgetown. Hope that Sallys will fly from Bankog and Kompong thach and help our brave army.

Two naval battles happend in Menado. Andy probably hoped for better results.

Philippines were quiet - Legaspi and Aparri airfields were closed down (bad weather) but Manila and CF AFs are still damaged. I'm going to break trough tommorow at Naga.

CHINA: is seems that Andy took good things from String. He using Singapore as air base for B17s, and he start to move some troops from Homan towards Hsyiang (sp?) and Kaifeng. We will se if it is only feint....


COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS



hm, I guess Andy sending lonely "recon" ships to check if sea route form PH to San Francisco is clear. I have to be patient here and wait when my glen equiped subs report capital ships passing.


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ASW attack at 117,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-19

Allied Ships
MSW Grebe

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Menado at 39,67

Japanese Ships
PG Takunan Maru #10
PG Choko Maru #2, Shell hits 8, on fire
PG Keijo Maru, Shell hits 1
PG Koei Maru, Shell hits 2
PG Nikkai Maru

Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Shell hits 2
CL Durban
DD Barker
DD Edsall
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 2, on fire


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Menado at 39,67

Japanese Ships
PG Takunan Maru #10, Shell hits 4, on fire
PG Choko Maru #2, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PG Keijo Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
PG Koei Maru
PG Nikkai Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Dragon
CL Durban
DD Barker
DD Edsall
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

what a courageous resistance! lost 3 aux ships, but those who survived now have day/night exp above 55!
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio
PC Shonan Maru #6, Shell hits 1
AK Toyo Maru

Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Peary, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Pope, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

it is always pleasing to see enemy DD's going down
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Day Air attack on Kuching , at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 8
Blenheim IV x 14
Hudson I x 5
P-40B Tomahawk x 16
B-17C Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-15 Babs: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14


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Day Air attack on 6th Indian Brigade, at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 29

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

sallys from bankok preparing Indians for upcoming attack:)
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Day Air attack on TF at 30,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 2
T.IVa x 4

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Menado at 39,67

Japanese Ships
PG Takunan Maru #10, on fire
PG Keijo Maru, on fire
PG Koei Maru

Allied Ships
PT TM-4
PT TM-5, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT TM-6
PT TM-7, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT TM-8, Shell hits 1, on fire
PT TM-9
PT TM-10, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT TM-11
PT TM-12
PT TM-13
PT TM-14
PT TM-15

hey, it works!
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Ground combat at Menado

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2453 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2045 troops, 20 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Menado base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1769 casualties reported
Guns lost 14


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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3360 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 11692 troops, 98 guns, 51 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

reinfocements arrived, shock attack ordered for tomorrow
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Ground combat at Tavoy

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1290 troops, 0 guns, 89 vehicles

Defending force 350 troops, 0 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 98 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tavoy base !!!



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


Ground combat at Laoag

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 765 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 620 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Laoag base !!!



Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Andy leaved two base force between Victoria Point and Tavoy to annoy and delay me




EDIT: noticed strange thing and don't know if it is by design or...? I have 2 div at Alor Star (enemy control); recently i have sent additional troops to Alor Star from Songhia but they did not come in Alor hex - they have stay in Songhia hex although distance is shown 60/60?

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RE: Ish-proc-go without changes - 10/28/2005 6:20:43 AM   
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Maybe those troops must move one more meter to arrive so next turn they should rock up to Aloe Star. Perhaps one of them forgot his lunchbox or something so they had to wait up for him.

pauk, thanks for answering the questions. Each answer you provide helps me avoid another dehibilitating blunder. I suppose I could practice against the AI but its extremely time consuming as I tried it once and it took like over an hour or two for one turn I think without me doing many moves. My computer is even slower than my brain. My brain moves like molasses in Antartica while my computer is like a ruptured turtle covered in liquid nitrogen.

I will try to limit my questions to story events. Okay then, I'm thinking that you can launch some big air raids against Singapore once the weather clears to try and catch some of his hardware on the tarmac. You might take out some of those dangerous B-17s like that. What do you think?

I like all those little naval fights. They are fun. Thanks for the frequent AAR updates. I ran out of reading material when the lunacies dried up so this is good.

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RE: Ish-proc-go without changes - 10/28/2005 9:54:03 AM   
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no problem:)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41

Strong enemy fleet (10 ships) is located at Palembang. I've ordered LBA to naval attack and Zero for escort, but bad weather still prevents my missions. That's why i moved reinforcements (base force+construction btn+supplies) from Kuching port. I will not risk sinking of T TF during day phase. I've ordered baby KB and slow BB fleet to move towards Kuching, although i need this forces for south DEI operation (Amboina, Kendari).

Enemy PTs (from Manila) strike at Kuching and sank one AK (supplies). Kuatan bombed with Kongo BB TF (few Hudsons destroyed, 320 casaulties).

Andy continue to attack Kuching with B17, but the good news is fall of the Alor Star (Andy did not want to fight there - good, this place had lvl 5 fort). 3 AK's sent with supply to the Khota Baru - i need to disperse enemy bombers with attracting their attention to many places.

Day Air attack on Kuching , at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:

All B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 2
T.IVa x 4


Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Yamato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported


ASW combat

Didn't mentioned sub and anti-sub warfare much. The reason for that is no presence of enemy subs in my waters. He using them for evacuating. My subs worked fine, but i'm faced with first victim of monsterous allied ASW. phew!

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Sub attack at 22,54

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
AP Zealandia, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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ASW attack near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese Ships
SS I-153, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Express
DD Electra
DD Tenedos

poor I-boat did not have chance in shallow waters

CHINA

unfortunatly, my plan for surrounding enemy at the Changsa won't work. Andy is too catious and he withdrew some units in hex east of Changsha. I have one division, 2 bde's and one tank rtg north of Changsha and i send them east but there is not much hope for great encircling...





PHILIPPINES

Heavy air raids on Manila and CF continuing. Andy withdraw part of his forces from Naga, recon reported 7 enemy units (27000) just one hex from Naga. Does it mean that he changed PP's to Clark? However, i can't risk with that, and IMO there is no need for that. Manila should fall soon. 2th Division and support troops arrived at Naga.


Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 86378 troops, 843 guns, 165 vehicles

Defending force 5038 troops, 38 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Naga base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
581 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
441 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!







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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/16/41

Not a good turn. One DD and couple of PGs sunk, even my naval leader gained tactical advantage... but 90% of fired shots were from american PTs.... and it is really annoying to see how 0.5inch can penetrate and cause critical damage on DD. phew... What is really interesting, AK Sagoland kicks my 2 aux ships... buahahha!

Well, Andy certainly love PTs... oh, and my I-boats this turn were in strike. I especially worried about lone MSW on PH-SanF route... she did not move today and i can not allow this. Sub sent to her position but no action from her.

I'm interested guys what do you think about this tactic, lonely , "low-point recon" ships?


This turn, Alor Star got attention from B17s. I hope he will switch back to the Kuching because i've transfered 3 Zero daitai's there.

Catalinas from Amboina spoted my invasion fleet and I'm not sure is it worth to take risk becase i do not have air support there....

Weather still killing me! Saigon, Aparri, Legaspi closed.




SITUATION IN SE PACIFIC - just attracting enemy attention





COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS


Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 28,56

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PG Hashidate, Shell hits 5
PG Saga, Shell hits 8, on fire
PG Sozan Maru, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Shell hits 3
PC Ch 7, Shell hits 5

Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-32
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35
PT PT-41

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 31,57

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 6, Shell hits 3, on fire
PC Ch 15

Allied Ships
AK Sagoland

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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 16
Hudson I x 11
B-17E Fortress x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 42


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Day Air attack on Kuching , at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 22

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Taytay at 39,53

Japanese Ships
AP Kashi Maru
AP Nojima Maru
AP Tamatsu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
PT PT-44
PT PT-45
PT PT-46
PT PT-47
PT PT-48

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported









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RE: Ish-proc-go without changes - 10/28/2005 6:27:26 PM   
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Nice map. Thanks for that. paul please see my previous post and consider my substandard advice for dealing with the B-17 menace out of singapore.

I don't think the low point recon ship tactic should be outlawed cause it is possible to do in real life but I wouldn't do it myself. I prefer just to send in the big boys and get the job done.

Keep fighting hard pauk. You almost got him. Look at my signature for motivation!!

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SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 9:42:34 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

Hi, Andy is not stupid. Even if I manage to launch air strike, he will certaintly keep his B-17s in the air (on mission). So i would catch only short range bombers (although this is not a bad, and i'm planning to do it, especially after......

my SAMURAI's shows who is the ruler of the sky! Finally i have some luck here (many my brilliant plans failed due to bad luck) but this time everything went perfectly.....my "vulture tactic" pay off this time:). 21 enemy planes destroyed on the ground during air strikes on Rangoon and Manila. What a good turn....





All in all enemy lost 89 planes and brave japanese airforce lost 7 planes (A2A 66:3, field 21:0, flak/ops 2:4). Crucial moment was when my Zero's succesfully bounced part of AVG, latter they easily crushed enemy bombers (only few get through).

this is very important victory for me. The benefits are:

1. app 25% of AVG were eliminated (19 planes)

2. 8 B-17 E and 5 B-17 C were lost + quite a lot other bombers.

3. I managed to bring reinforements in the Kuching (Base fore and naval const btn + supply)

4. Enemy bomber groups (especially B17) now are demoralised (lots of them turned off). Does anyone can guess about their moral level?

5. 16 B-17 E damaged and they are grounded now in Singapore, so Sing AF is perfec target now.

6. Andy's moral will be affected too.



Kuching is slowly repairing. 14 AF damage, 32 service damage and 62 port damage. But i already have 160 eng there.

I'm planing retaliation mission on Singapore AF, but again i have extremely bad weather (thunderstorms). I have two AFs now available for air strike on Singapore:

Alor Star (air HQ is in Songhia(range 4) - will they provide support for strike?) and Saigon (yes, i have to use Betty and Nells)

I'm not sure which AF to use, the best solution would be both but i don't have decent escort for both of them. I have no choice, must use Zero's with 20 or more fatigue....

Enemy sub torpedoed APD at the Camrah Bay. Betty from Saigon torpedoed AP Van Imhoff (traveling towards Singapore - loaded with men).

Recon ac reported massing enemy troops in the Manila. Clark is almost empty. I wonder what kind of trick it is? Personally I would be more than glad that Andy pick Manila for last stand, but i doubt...

My troops arrived at Chagsha. Andy have 60 000 men there.

COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS


Day Air attack on Kuching , at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 59

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 19 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Kuching , at 28,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2
Blenheim IV x 15
Martin 139 x 11
Hudson I x 13
B-17C Fortress x 5
B-17E Fortress x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 8 destroyed
Martin 139: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hudson I: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17C Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 5 destroyed, 16 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10


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Day Air attack on TF at 29,54 - attack on the baby KB

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30

Allied aircraft
T.IVa x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


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Day Air attack on TF at 29,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3
Brewster 339D x 4
Buffalo I x 12
T.IVa x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 3 destroyed
Buffalo I: 6 destroyed
T.IVa: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at 43,40

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 37805 troops, 448 guns, 7 vehicles

Defending force 2588 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 39 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
196 casualties reported
Guns lost 6


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

just north of Changsha. Enemy withdrew towards Hengchow

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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 10:23:14 AM   
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Wow you really are brilliant. Your plan of hurting his airforce in aerial combat and then bombing the airport coupled with perfect execution of the air battle is genius. This is why I think you should be in the top 5 IJN players list. Expanding is gonna be so easy now without the nagging naval bombings on your TFs. It looks like your bad luck flu is still there a bit with the thunderstorms protecting his base but don't worry cause luck is like the weather and soon changes.

pauk, do you remember the relative altitudes of the planes? It looked like his were all set to 6000 in previous posts so how about yours? I'm wondering cause in my practice game the B-17s are very hard to kill even with constant attention from zeros and tend to only get damaged.

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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 10:31:07 AM   
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thanks... but then again, a previous game against String really helps me to prepare myself against such nasty things - It seems that Andy plays in that way although he is to hasty at the moment. And it is pretty easy to be good Jap player at the start of the game - wait til 43 and 44...

Yes, his bombers flew on 6 000 ft....

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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 3:24:49 PM   
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Congrats!
Brillant move.




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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 3:29:52 PM   
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go Samurai, go!

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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 5:01:37 PM   
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RE: SAMURAI! - 10/29/2005 6:45:14 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41

Thx guys, but i was aware that my luck won't last for to much honger. Even a brilliant plan do not worth a doit if you are without luck (there is one croatian saying hard to translate: it is better to born without "sausage" then without luck. Because if you have luck, your "saussage" will grown up)....

I've ordered 100-LB strike from Saigon with support of 60 fighters but bad weather prevents mission and Andy got warning (message "saigon air mission canceled). It is very sadly that was consider naval/airfield attack but leave them on af mission. Yes, you are guessing right - no cloud over saigon during PM phase. This time i changed orders to naval/af attack....


But, the worst news coming form Pacific - KB is spoted or better to say Val's found his sub(s).... however, i've ordered full speed to SE maybe i will catch something (sure!)



DEI/MALAYA

Two succesful intercepts of enemy transports near Singapore, light SC TF ("Sendai raiders" - Cl + 5 DDs) sunk AK Tjisareoea, AK Bengalen and AP Van Imhoff).

Lone DD Amigari had poor performance - only three shell hits hited AP President Mason (no real damage)

SS O20 torpedoed our AK at Kuching. I-154 returns the favor and put one fish in enemy AK NW of Batavia. Unsucessful naval attack from Alor Star with Sallys on enemy APs near Malacca. Advance through Malaya continues.

Brunei invasion group disembarking at the target.



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Day Air attack on TF at 26,50


Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Asagiri
CL Sendai

Aircraft Attacking:

All Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet

strike comes from Kuatan (range 3 hehe). Suprisingly, Sendai raiders group did not withdraw 6 hexes. Fortunatly, no attack with Swordfishs from Singapore - maybe they are already in suthern DEI?

PHILLIPINES


CF is still empty, but i still expect that enemy last stand will be in CF. More units reported in Lingayen...





COMBAT HIGHLIGHTS

PLAY OF THE DAY(S)!

ASW attack at 122,56 (PH - SF route

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
MSW Grebe

this is a third ASW attack on my subs, my I-sailors did not attacked MSW a single time!

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Ground combat at Taiping

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 53407 troops, 644 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 5643 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Taiping base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
418 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Allied ground losses:
484 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

two indian brigades can't stop me. Next station - Malacca


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Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27689 troops, 290 guns, 7 vehicles

Defending force 2482 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 29 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
2872 casualties reported
Guns lost 22


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BURMA


Ground combat at Moulmein

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1300 troops, 0 guns, 90 vehicles

Defending force 11634 troops, 147 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Ground combat at Moulmein

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10676 troops, 139 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1200 troops, 0 guns, 80 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 24 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

I've found lot's of troops there!
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Ground combat at 30,34

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2470 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1564 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1



Allied ground losses:
214 casualties reported

Rangoon fort attacked my tank regiment north of Moulemen. Reinforcement (Mix regiment) on their way.





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I'm not just unlucky, i'm stupid too. When i changed orders for LB at Saigon, forgot to clear escort destination for zero's... and yes, Saigon AF was operational in the morning phase and i've lost more than 30 Betty/Nells.

(LBA were on naval attack and attacked enemy SC at Sing. escort was set on Singapore)

I have to withdraw and reorganize them.

During PM phase Singapore is finally attacked. The combat was fierce and Andy can claim stragegic victory. My tactical gain is another decimating AVG force, but i can not be pleased with 80:79 A2A losses in decembar...but it seems to me that more pilots survived than ac lost. fortunatly.

I-166 puts three torps in enemy AK. ASW TF drops 2 type91 bombs on O19 in Camrah port

Great news from KB. They engaged and sank MSW Grebe or something

In China, my units continuing cleaning railroad from single chinese units between Hsyiang (sp?) and Kaifeng.

My tank rtg again "shocked" by rangoon fort unit, but enemy suffer 380 losses (0-1 odds)



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/19/41

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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 47
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Buffalo I x 21
Hurricane II x 6
P-35A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 34 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 60
G3M Nell x 62
G4M1 Betty x 29

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Buffalo I x 28
Hurricane II x 5
P-35A x 1
P-40B Tomahawk x 37
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 20 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 4 destroyed
Buffalo I: 17 destroyed
Hurricane II: 4 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 22 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
LB-30 Liberator: 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20

All bombing at 15 000 ft
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
Blenheim I x 3
Blenheim IV x 3
Hudson I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 5
B-17C Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 17
LB-30 Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Hukuyo Maru
AP Manzyu Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsuwa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
PG Chosa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PC Ch 8
AP Izan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kyokusei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported

Oscars performed well here, but couldn t protect convoy with aviation unit
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G3M Nell x 3

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Hurricane II x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Brunei at 32,57

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi
DD Wakaba
PC Shimushu, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsukari
MSW W.2
AP Eihuku Maru
AP Hakka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Hakusika Maru
AP Hikade Maru
AP Josho Maru
AP Meiten Maru
AP Meiu Maru
AP Mexico Maru, Shell hits 2
AK Tetsuzan Maru

Allied Ships
PT PT-44
PT PT-45, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PT PT-46
PT PT-47, Shell hits 74, and is sunk
PT PT-48, Shell hits 11, and is sunk

did i mention that he likes PTs?
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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24262 troops, 339 guns, 7 vehicles

Defending force 55417 troops, 479 guns, 133 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
221 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

deliberate attack ordered for tomorrow
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RE: 19th Decembar/1941 - 10/30/2005 8:57:20 AM   
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Uh oh, its looks like you reaped what you sowed earlier in the air war. But a good beating taken by both sides is the best kind of war. Don't worry, one blooper does not a man make stupid. Even Einstein couldn't find where he'd left his toothbrush sometimes.

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RE: 19th Decembar/1941 - 10/30/2005 11:15:39 AM   
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I swear i will never go back playing vanilla map....

However Pauk...where's the 33rd Division? and the 55th? It seems that with one division you can burn the hell out of those white bastards and encircle them bypassing Mouleim. With only one mix regiment it's not possible imho

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this case is closed:) My airforces already regroups!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/20/41


I lost DD Hatsuharu - just two nasty PT's were enough to sink her near Brunei, although i had three more DDs in escort. My forces sunk only one... phew.

I-166 attacked on surface AK Kota Radja and puts one torpedo into her.

Sometimes i just hate game mechanics! Bettys at Kuching were on naval attack and got decent support, but instead attacking enemy SC at Singapore hex they attacked single AK docked in Miri!... but when they are without escort they will run into murderous enemy CAP....



Day Air attack on TF, near Miri at 31,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
G4M1 Betty x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sagoland, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


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Day Air attack on TF at 23,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G4M1 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Soerabaja, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

PM phase, same story :(

BURMA

tank rtg still defending position on Moulemein (sp?) - Rangoon. Unfortunatly don't have additional forces for encircling and destroying Burmanese brigades. But, considering that i have just one tank rtg and mix rtg i have to be pleased with current situation.

MALAYA






PHILIPPINES

First attack on Manila was usuccessful, but no more forts there! I wonder if i would get better odds with shock attack, but we shall never know that. Legaspi and Appari were closed and my soldiers did not get support from air. Well, i will rest troops for couple of days, meanwhile my bombers should soften Manila defence...


Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 127136 troops, 1442 guns, 178 vehicles

Defending force 60290 troops, 539 guns, 135 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
2769 casualties reported
Guns lost 90
Vehicles lost 9

Allied ground losses:
1160 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 2


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CHINA

Couple of failed attacks - commanders reported that they faced with significant enemy forces.

Ground combat at 45,35 NW of the Changsha across the river

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29300 troops, 350 guns, 138 vehicles

Defending force 27453 troops, 157 guns, 72 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
473 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
521 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at 43,39 NE of Canton - railroad line

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 18773 troops, 220 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 16531 troops, 119 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
358 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 3




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RE: 19th Decembar/1941 - 10/30/2005 12:19:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

I swear i will never go back playing vanilla map....

However Pauk...where's the 33rd Division? and the 55th? It seems that with one division you can burn the hell out of those white bastards and encircle them bypassing Mouleim. With only one mix regiment it's not possible imho


well, i'm thinking about Subchaser map.

As you can see from picture above they are engaged in Malaya. 33th Div just leaving Bankok and can not came on time in the Burma. That was initial plan - you can't advance at so many places in the same time. Singapore gets priority, i not expecting much from "Burma army group".

Gen, can you give me input from Allies view about ac losses? (and others are more than welcomed)




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RE: 19th Decembar/1941 - 10/30/2005 1:20:39 PM   
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It depends Pauk. If I was him i'd swithc replacements off for every other p-40 ( B or E) groups on map. Then upgrade to p-40E asap that group of p-40Bs that is at PH at the begining of the war...so probably he can have more p-40Bs at his disposal...but however he won't be able to hold the line for a long time with those planes...replacements are too low and if you keep them under costant pressure with your crack zeros, he won't even be able to upgrade not to risk to have 72 planes under repair when you come with hordes of bombers well escorted to bomb the hell out of his airfield!



I'd produce many more Sallies and Helens...at least double production.
Some more zeros ( around 220/250) and defenetly more OSCARs!!!! You need them till august...then all those industries will start producing Tonies... so start planning since yesterday!


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