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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/10/2006 12:27:17 AM   
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Run the replay and this turn went good. Sallys attacked transports at PM and heavily damaged more of them. But, i was quite suprised with that:


Is it some kind of trap? is it mistake by him? is he really planing to attack Marshalls with transport only? I'm confused and decided to sleep instead pushing turn....

Situation is not perfect - two Tony sentais at Kwajelain and Jack + Zero daitai at Maloelap. Betty daitai at Kwajelain but didn't attack enemy transports - has he had enough time to travel back to east and cover tranports? doubt about that, same with possible trap but i have to be careful - area between Truk and Marshalls is not covered by hundreds of IJN planes... and i have to learn not to trust my patrol planes!

What is divertion? those transports at PM or near Marshalls? KB need three days to reach Marshalls... and it is still not united....

The truth is that Majuro isnt well defended - only one SNLF....any advices would be appreciated....




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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/10/2006 2:43:01 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/03/43

Ok, lets see what happend yestertay with more details first.

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Jacks and Tonies swept PM before IJA AF bombers - first time happend to me and i start to wondering what went wrong....

As i saw little latter, nothing goes wrong there and IJA delivers a heavy beating to the enemy transports. Only Samuel F. Miller reported sunk, but i doubt that other transports (except one) will survive...

Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK American Leader, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AK American Builder, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Admiral Gove, Bomb hits 1
AK Samuel F. Miller, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Stephen M. White, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Admiral Day, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AK Pierre S. Dupont, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
at 7000 feet

IJA AF once again goes over the top - PM was bombed again! I'm rotating most fatigued group to Siador and replace it with fresh group.

Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 124
Ki-46-III Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 99

He moved B-24Ds to PM because he want to know were are my carriers. Don't think he spoted them....


Aussies at Kiriwina Island didn't surrender yet (achived 5-1). As for LTC Kado, it will be enough to say that he didn't get his decoration...(0-1).

CHINA

My paras retreated quite quickly from the Yunan and i my troops forced Chinese units to retreat into Yunan.


Ground combat at 37,33

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 60530 troops, 668 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1238

Defending force 8407 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 279

Japanese max assault: 2378 - adjusted assault: 697

Allied max defense: 218 - adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 36 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1498 casualties reported
Guns lost 31

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

However, the Yunan-Chungking-Kumning road is open. My division without supply couldn't resist any more and retreated SW. I bought it quite cheap (less than 2000 PP) for South east but it will take a lot of time till 116th division reaches Chinese coast and can be transfered to Truk.


Ground combat at 39,32

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 16721 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 476

Defending force 20399 troops, 169 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 410

Allied max assault: 696 - adjusted assault: 249

Japanese max defense: 378 - adjusted defense: 33

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


PAUKASHAWA-san IMPERIAL REPORT

Situation is quite troublesome. Although we expected something like this, the enemy move towards Marshalls happend in most critical moments for us. Few days more and I would be in perfect situtaion to destroy enemy!

Andy usses his assests well and stretching our resources. I can not divide my Navy and thus allow easy victories for him. Although part of me suspects that move towards Majuro (?) could be divertion i think that he will go for Majuro or Mili. I choose to react: Combined fleet gathers and will try to intercept the enemy but i don't believe i will make it. So, we have to be ready we can lose Majuro/Mili. I would prefer that he goes for Majuro - this base isn't developed and it is closer to my main bases in Marshalls. Even with fall of Majuro our sitution won't be desperate unless he send 3-4 division again. Lets hope that 10K mines at Majuro can do some nasty things to the enemy....

I've ordered 21st division, tk rtg and three big NG units (Truk) to be ready for sailing to Marshalls. 21st eng regiment (Kaveing) is also assigned to Marshalls. 56th bde is re-routed from their way to Siador to Marshalls.

16 division (now near Sorong) sails to Truk and 38th division is loaded at Singapore and sent to Truk too. We have most of 20th div in the Kwajelain and if we judge that we can conduct successfull counter-offensive in the Marshalls this unit will be used too.

If enemy really takes Majuro we shall use BB runs and disable enemy to fortify there. After that we shall commit a powerful counterattack. But we have to be prepared for hordes of 4E bomber against our AFs and ships there. We are ready to take some punches, but also to deliver him a Divine strike!

I've been told that new ac groups are sent as reinforcements to PNG/Marshalls, even a night fighers which can be, i hope so, used against enemy 4E bombers. That means Konichiwa-go will remain unsolved but Imperial HQ thinks there is more important theatre now. And our great leaders have right, once again!

If this was only a feint we won't lose a much - KB will be in position to sails fast to PNG. The only thing that worries me is my recon. Not once it proves inadequate....










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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/10/2006 8:45:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm...nah, Andy can't get his carriers in position this quickly!
Allies are not strong enough to committ to 2 major offensives in the South Pacific yet.
Several times I have noticed that Andy forget about a convoy or two - ref. 'lost convoy'.
This may be a diversion or another lost patrol.

To me it seems obvious that the Marshalls will be invaded only when Andy has gathered strength.
Reinforce the Marshalls now, but also take advantage of the excellent position you are in
at PM. Keep his AFs closed.

At PM 4 enemy divisions can't be routed, so eventually bad weather, fatigued pilots etc will give the enemy
time to repair the fields and move in the Uber CAP fighter - the Corsair... You have to use your judgement
very well here Pauk-San! Keep a strategic air reserve and pull back when it's time. The goal is to delay
Andy, right! Delay, and inflict casualties. This may be the last campaign in which you will gain air superiority
this easily. So perhaps you should make the most out of it!? Andy is really obsessed about preserving his USN
pilots these days


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RE: Zmukler-go procceding smoothly... - 8/10/2006 9:01:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pauk
- leaving at least a division in each ISA base to convince Andy that i will defend newborn ISA to the last man!
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Hmm don’t you think it would be better to leave three or four divisions at just Darwin? I mean it will be a lot easier for the allies to overcome a single division at each base than it will be for them to dislodge a large stack of Japanese divisions combined in a level 9 fort (think of the Manila defense strategy, hold out for months instead of weeks). Even if the allies recapture all of the other northern bases, Darwin alone will be a thorn in their side they can’t ignore before going north into the SRA.

Also it’s the closest to your SRA bases so the easiest to evacuate by air transport.

If you spread yourself out, he’ll need far less troops to clear out northern Australia. I’d leave a small detachment at each base other than Darwin that can easily be air evacuated just before the allies arrive. Then I’d pile a large force into Darwin and fight tooth and nail until it was obvious you are about to lose. Then air lift out as much as you can by having all available air transport aircraft pre-positioned for the lift.

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RE: Zmukler-go procceding smoothly... - 8/10/2006 9:15:55 PM   
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RE: Zmukler-go procceding smoothly... - 8/11/2006 4:59:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		PzB, this convoy route is too strange for 'lost conwoy' - you will see it on the picture attached below. It could be a divertion, decoy, but it could be a invasion fleet for Mili.

Jim, Sneer is right - besides that, qiving him AFs in Northern Oz and trying to defend Darwin would be suicide - couple of days and 4E monsters would destroy my division(s) there. I would be glad if he comes via land, but i don't think he is dumb.




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/04/43


Bad weather prevents strike on PM. My fighters on noon sweep shot down two enemy fighters but i'm afraid that a hard decision is in front of me again...






Enemy fleet spoted again south of PM. It was spoted by sub not by 18 Emilies at GG. I'm not certain do i should attack PM again tomorrow and what to do with KB. Since is obvious i can't arrive on time and sink enemy convoy near Mili i think best solution is send my mobile strike force to Buin and wait for an opportunity. Few BBs will be sent to Marshalls just in case.

Comments?


Two damaged AKs sent to the bottom at PM. Andy likes to use 'kamikaze' ships.


Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Maine, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK American Builder, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage




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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/11/2006 5:24:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pauk

The truth is that Majuro isnt well defended - only one SNLF....any advices would be appreciated....


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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/12/2006 1:02:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paukushawa was taught the calm of the thousand years Samourai...
Paukushawa can control his inner madness and love for destruction...
Paukushawa can hear jaelous little insects' comments without overreacting...
He will slap Speedy-san in the face, he will not, he will... not... gnnnnn! gnnnnn!

But well Speedy is somewhat right saying one single SNLF garrison strategically sucks anyway, but the other way around, it wouldn't have been that funny right?

So what news about the ghost convoy?

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RE: Re:Irish songs on Japanese ships - 8/12/2006 10:32:42 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/43

Not one of most eventful turn but it should be interesting tomorrow. Fish, this convoy goes to Makin (Allied base) - unfortunately my LBA from Maloelap didn't attack enemy ships due bad weateher. However, this could be a sign that Andy will go for Marshalls (Mili) cause he don't need CVs there. So still unsure what to do with KB and will wait to see what will happens at PM. No enemy opposition yet there but i can expect it every day....


Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 27
E13A1 Jake x 1
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 47
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 32
Ki-21 Sally x 91
Ki-46-III Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Boomerang II: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 96

at 7000 feet

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EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 2:02:02 PM   
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Andy sent me a turn with title - EAGLE DAY... well can't say i was suprised and caught by suprise... Corsairs saw their first action!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/06/43


BURMA

After a long quiet period Allied air offensive started in Burma.

Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 48
B-17E Fortress x 44
B-24D Liberator x 48
IL-4c x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-R Irving: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
IL-4c: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
184 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 109

at 7000 feet


PACIFIC

Look this disgusting fighter, can't say I'm glad to see it. Phew!

Day Air attack on Mili , at 84,85

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 17

That sweep was only introducition. Enemy bombers attacked Mili - it seems as obvious target for the next invasion! We cant oppose to Corsairs with LR CAP me thinks!

Day Air attack on Mili , at 84,85

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 63
B-17E Fortress x 20
B-24D Liberator x 47


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 26

at 9000 feet

PNG

This was expected - and i wasn't afraid too much of the Corsairs on first day - obviously they are quite fatigued and didn't killed many our ac. The question is shall we continue and try to hurt his Corsair pools (150 by month - and 22 Corsairs seen at Yunan) or not. It has been told to Paukashawa-san that moral is high and our Samurais are eager to fight, but Paukashawa will use Pauk-san advice "it is better to survive today and fight for emperor tomorrow" probably.... 150 Corsairs are just too much...





Wildcats at PM are from Hornet!

Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 28
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 70
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 20
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Boomerang II x 2
Spitfire Vb x 43
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 13
P-38G Lightning x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 20 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 11 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 13 destroyed, 13 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 13 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Boomerang II: 1 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 31 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 8 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 9 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 12 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24

at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
G4M1 Betty x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 28

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
Spitfire Vb x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-38G Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Spitfire Vb: 9 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK American Builder, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Stephen M. White, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Pierre S. Dupont, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Admiral Day, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 31


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 15000 feet

PROPAGANDA WARFARE

Paukashawa san can be pleased with today results. However, he is a well aware that he lost many valuable experienced pilots and can't sustain more losses like this. But what is actually can do is piss off Andy and fool him about our intentions..

quote:

EAGLE DAY my ass!
Please, can you send me a more of your so-called EAGLES? I've said i have few tricks for you and i don't even started using them:)




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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 2:42:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would press on with attacks on PM. If he gets it fully operational, you're doomed. Your army bombers will become useless so you can accept any losses to them. This time only, they won't die on the ground but may inflict some real damage to PM airfields. As for fightes, ater PM is safe for the Allies you will have to streach them across many bases making them useless. This way they are concentrated over PM and can contribute much more then in pointless defensive battles where half of them are destroyed on the ground after the airfields are closed.
It's time to send the best you have on sweeps and the daitais with fresh green pilots on escort. The bombers will soon become a very important weapon by destroying enemy ac on the ground. If you can't keep fighter pilots alive, just use rookies to escort bombers.

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 5:17:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think Honda is right (he's always righter than I am anyway :D ), you should go on with draining PM ressources as long as your planes can take off and fly over there, rotating units in order to keep a permanent force. Every turn you kill a dozen planes and sunk some merchies, you make his job harder. Who knows, if he can't manage to get PM operationnal (and Corsairs will keep tired with such a daily pressure), he'll may have to commit his CVs against your land-based air units...

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 6:36:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

I think Honda is right (he's always righter than I am anyway :D )


Lol, you should see all the bad advice I gave over the years. Ask PzB.


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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 6:50:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		well Honda, you didn't prove as good adviser to me recently too

Seriously, that's was my first thought too - keeping pressure on his AF but then i realised that only 1/4 of his Corsairs flew last turn over the PM - 12 of 48... rest were resting i guess although i didn't destroy any of them on the field.

Anyway, here is all FIGHTERS I can engage for next turn (i have more bombers but didn't show them all). one veteran Tojo will arive in two days as reinforcement and that's it.

(i need to protect Marshalls and if i throw all fighters i will have nothing to defend Marshalls - it would mean another easy walk for enemy).

I just afraid that 45 Corsairs next turn will eat all of my airforce... what do you think now when you know situation more in detail?


Andy didn't answer on my provocations - i guess his pride is hurt




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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 7:06:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Go for it. Those planes are lost now or within a month. Your choice. But this way they can die for some purpose. As long as he's defending he's not attacking. When he goes on the offensive, you're toast - with or without all those planes. Drive them till the edge and when depleated, send them to China for some training. Should be back in time for defence of Truk.
I see your morale is wavering so I'll go straight for your ego - if you manage to close down a base defended by Corsairs you'll become a forum celebrety and Speedy will have no chice but bow under your divine presence.

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 7:42:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes going after PM everyday is the only way to keep his Corsairs on the ground - me thinks they were not flying not because they were resting, but simply because the AF is in bad shape (look at the numbers of Spits destroyed on the fields, compared to number of spits really flying, Im not sure it's because the other ones were sleeping). I may be wrong, but I suppose that AF damage severely hampers the number of planes flying and increases the fatigue, which is the only way for you to deal with the Corsair threat (in a somewhat comparable way as Pzb did with Zombongoastradourousomethin' and its Corsairs). Well if twenty Corsair show up next turn I know I will have been wrong but if not you'll be sad to have missed this chance

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 7:44:09 PM   
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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 7:57:31 PM   
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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 8:44:55 PM   
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Well guess i came to level where no one really have experience about that. But Honda is quite a right. I will lose my Samurais sooner or latter, so Paukashawa-san last words will shall remain remebered:

why not?

118 fighters on sweep from Lae and 62 Army bombers
46 fighers and 94 Army bombers from Siador
59 fighters an 52 IJN LBA from Rabaul

will try break enemy defence over the PM. we can only hope that strikes will be coordinated - they should be (enough supply, Air HQs, clear weather..)

I'm aware that Andy can throw new ac groups in PM and that Corsairs can eat my air force, but as i planed this AAR as some kind of tutorial for the new players also, why not to try it? Anyway, with PDU on I will lose soon. And Honda, don't even think you caught me by my ego

Andy responded me:
quote:

Heheh all I can say is that every pilot I killed is a 90 xp every one you
killed is a 60 I can replace mine can you ?


I answered:

We shall see.... Andy without Fighters I :D. You can't denie that your Eagle day is dissapointment - and we are already in phase where Japan can achive only moral victories like this one. So, i'm enjoy in this victory while i can!


turn sent....

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 8:55:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL pauk - I like your spirit. This AFB is hoping you win a victory Speedy will never be able to surpass. BANZAI!!!

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 9:07:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		well, as game is moving in 43 and hopefully even latter you will see more and more (bad) humor. I saw lots of frustration about this game (which is understandable because it is very good simulation of the real war despite some not perfect designs), early for the Allies and late for the Japanese.

I have no illusion i can reach 1945 with PDU (but that was my choice!) and i need to find another way to have a fun with this game. I want to avoid frustration, hey i have a life!

Hopefully it will work and i wish that this AAR wont die because lack of interes!

ctangus... hip-hip... phew you almost got me.... BANZAI!!!!

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 9:13:50 PM   
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Good luck with the Corsairs mate

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 10:56:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Pffft....victories greater than mine....pfffft.....no chance.

Useless Pauk

Good luck with the Corsairs mate


I SHALL BE REMEMBERED AS DIVINE PLAYER!!!... No even Corsairs can stand against me - another so-called EAGLE DAY ended as disaster for the enemy....Honda, i think is a time to invite Speedy to bow under my divine presence




Now, try to outplay that, Speedy you sucker!

Details will followed but not sure tonight. Paukashawa-san needs rest and replay turn carefully...

BANZAI!





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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/12/2006 11:07:37 PM   
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I SHALL BE REMEMBERED AS DIVINE PLAYER!!!... No even Corsairs can stand against me - another so-called EAGLE DAY ended as disaster for the enemy....Honda, i think is a time to invite Speedy to bow under my divine presence

Need a witness for the ceremony?  

Nice one anyway

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass! - 8/13/2006 12:15:38 AM   
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EAGLE DAY my ass (II) - 8/13/2006 12:32:10 AM   
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Thanks, but i should thank to both Honda and you on advice. It is hard to choose right decision when you are in front of this monster and easy to change his mind!



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/07/43


PNG

Our brave Air force goes over the top once again and inflicted heavy casaulties to the Kiwi and Kangaroo Air forces (Andy is guite fearful about his US pools thanks to PzB - what could competent JFB what could do with these numbers!).

He tried to counter attack and force me to turn into defensive at PNG. Not yet. What really suprised me is enemy ability to launch offensive strikes. I have no idea how many supplies he unloaded with invasion troops, but i think i exausted his supplies pretty well with my bombing campaign.

Or am I wrong or he transporting supply via air risking nothing. Ships? who needs ships?

Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
B-24D Liberator x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 42

mostly at 10000 feet

But he found no more than few damaged Army bombers on the ground. Ok, point was taken, he could send more bombers but i'm not going to break my air offensive - yet.

Here comes the first wave from the Lae:







Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 25
E13A1 Jake x 1
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 41
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 60
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
Boomerang II x 2
Spitfire Vb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 7
P-38G Lightning x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 12 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 20 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 8 destroyed
Boomerang II: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 8 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 10 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 11 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
287 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 66

at 6000 feet

Before someone start another rant about how Allied are screwed in the game in main forum, let me say that my Praetorian sentai had 29 pilots with average exp of 97. Only 19 of them returned to the base but Praetorians revenged themself - for each killed pilot of their own they shot down 3 planes!

Next, Andy doesn't change the leaders - which means his leaders are probably mediocre while my Samurais are leaded with crack leaders...

Jacks didn't perform bad Fishbed - under the cover of Praetorians they shot 9 enemy planes (including two Corsairs) without loss on their side.

68th Sentai (Tony) shot 13 enemy planes for a cost of two pilots.

Wildcats from the VF-5 (VF-8 already got kicked day before) joins the defenders of the PM but they took heavy beating. I need an input from AFB - at what exp level will be replacement pilots for CV airgroups (70? 80?)

Second wave (from Siador) found weak opposition and bombed PM. At this moment, PM was closed down (or i was hoped).

Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
Ki-21 Sally x 55
Ki-49 Helen x 36

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 1 destroyed
Boomerang II: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 65

at 6000 feet

Third and final wave comes from Rabaul. Two Corsairs were on CAP (together with one or two Lightings, Wildcats and P-39) and shot 5 Zeros. But my beloved Samurais, even in obsolete A6M2 done their duty - protecting precious naval LBA...

Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 48
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 26

PACIFIC

Attack on Milli, again - Corsairs swept the place and then 130 heavies (57 were Mitchells) pounded the base and and poor defenders there.

CHINA

I've tried night bombing of Yunan but only 10 Sallys attacked enemy AF by night and destroyed one or two W-hawks. Corsairs are based at Yunan too and i can not affort to go in another battle against them.

Unfortunatly, my almost encircled troops near Chengtu/Chungking probably cant be saved. Their movement was reset to 0 (see the last picture of China theatre for details).



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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass (II) - 8/13/2006 2:21:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good going Pauk!
Don't wear out all your fighters though - keep a strong reserve at Truk (please:)

On the forum Andy has stated that he will do his outmost to close down all Chinese training camps.
Guess that's why there are Corsairs in Yunan. What will happen if you can't train your fighters? A bit worrying
cause you need to in order to feed the grinder. With PDU on I guess you will get a lot of super George fighters in 1944!
It's the best Jap IJN ac no doubt.

What will you do when the kamis are activated Pauk - let them all be shot down by the Uber CAP or
send them into the stratosphere?

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass (II) - 8/13/2006 9:38:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honda, i've said thank to you - but once agin - thanks for help and advice to stick with original plan!

PzB,

I'm aware what Andy said on the forum - fortunatly i have two more training camps - at Sumatra (planes can train both from Palembang and Batavia) and one in PI (Iloilo) - I guess that units there stuck with heavy equipment and cant be destroyed or evecuated. Two more training camps are in the China:

- near Kwelin (this can't be intercepted) and near Changsha/Ichang (can be intercepted from the Changsha)

But still i'm keeping some kind of reserve - one Zero daitai trains and now it is at 94 exp - i'm interested how 99 exp Zekes will perform against Hellcats and will try to put them on carrier (i will try regular way of disbanding which means that i have to sacrify some naval pilots. The best choice are Daitai from one of Unryus which will all arrive in next three days.

At HI i have app 150 Tojos wit exp 80 in one group. The main benefit of PDU in rest of the game is that i can downgrade/upgrade fighter groups and therefore distribute pilots at my wish.

As for a George, i will try and train as more pilot as i can - but i have to fill my CVEs which will take an important role in my most cuning plan "Blackadder-go" with a goal to decimate enemy CV air groups and perhaps even destroy Britus fleet.

What is needed now is consensus of the whole imperial Pauk family. We have to adopt defencive plan which will negate Andys most obvious advantage - Corsiars.

The only way that i can see it is to form my heavily defended bases outside Corsair range: that should be Marians, Palaus but have almost no choice for the PNG. I think i will left central PNG undeveloped but somewhat defended. Therefore, my main defencive line should be northern PNG bases (Sorong, Noe-whatever...etc). I know that Andy can quickly build that bases, but he will need supply and eng, while keeping his fleet nearby to protect those bases. IMO it is better to leave him to expand those bases than spent time, supply and engineers just that base would be captured in three days - expanded.

About the kamis and their attitude - i had discussion with Amiral and String about their max attitude and got impression from their answers that they will be uber weapon against enemy fleet with no chance to intercept them and defend against them.

But, as your example shows, they aren't uber weapon and murderous flak can ruin your day. And the hit rate is quite low, me thinks. I see no other solution than do it what you done, especially against Britus fleet if Andy relase his dogs on CAP 90%. But, i will notice Andy about that (when the time comes) and discuss about that.

It is really sad that few kamis can't get through CAP - which wasn't case in RL - so using high attitute kamis are way to exploit game mechanics but also to achive at least few hits against enemy CVE/CVLs which was done in RL... we JFB aren't asking for victories in 1944/45, but we want to see some moral victories and kind a "defeat-which-is-actually-win-for-Japan" in the late war period to delay enemy. Especially after we have extremely cuning plans

I would like that no one get me wrong, but we JFB feels little bit cheated when we manage to outplay our opponent with low quality stuff late in the game and achive nothing. Guys, just try to imagine how the PzB feels when he intercepted heavily damaged CVE with CL and all he got is one shell on CL's deck!

now, i'll make my turn. The weather is overcast and this is a perfect opportunity for screwing my grandious plans. I think i will make army bombers at Siador on naval/AF attack to make sure that at least some of them will fly. I need just one divine strike - i need to destroy enemy planes on the ground! Just one more coordinated strike and i will restrain myself in the future!

Still, i have one important question to be answered. Does it anyone knows?

quote:

Wildcats from the VF-5 (VF-8 already got kicked day before) joins the defenders of the PM but they took heavy beating. I need an input from AFB - at what exp level will be replacement pilots for CV airgroups (70? 80?)


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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass (II) - 8/13/2006 10:44:03 AM   
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Wildcats from the VF-5 (VF-8 already got kicked day before) joins the defenders of the PM but they took heavy beating. I need an input from AFB - at what exp level will be replacement pilots for CV airgroups (70? 80?)


That would be nice, but it's more like 60. (While your opponent is better than me, I would still say it's a mistake for him to be using USN squadrons right now. F4F4s have a high replacement pool which is probably why he's using them. But he should have 10 or so Marine squadrons around he could use instead.)

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RE: EAGLE DAY my ass (II) - 8/13/2006 11:09:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks ctangus, after info i look at his option to use carrier based CV groups in that way as mistake too!

Well, i would mind that he using Marine sqnds on his fleet carriers - i'm using only carrier based CV airgroups on my carriers (although i'm mixing them cause Kaga is on R&R and Taiho groups are training.) I have nothing aganst Marine sqnds on CVEs.

But i don't think that Andy would do that. Anyway, we had discussion about high attitude kamis. Not that i can oppose him, i just want to express my thoughts publicly:

quote:

Ok, Andy this is how i look at this issue

Hard to find a line between history and the game here. But as i explained, my attitude
is that Japanese is actually screwed in latter period of the game with kamis. I'm not sure
but i think that even uber CAP didn't could stop all kamis in RL so PzB trying to do something with bad design.

I can understand your position about high attitude kamis and your strong position (i feel i could feel the same!) but to me is all about design. Ok, let's ban high att kamis, but i'm not sure that "Great airlift in the Pacific" really exist. Yes, i'm talking about Allied abilitY to use abundance of big air transport planes and thus, de fact, leave transport ships just for "kamis" as i seen at the PM (i'm not complaining) and eventually for the invasions.

I mean, sure that so many air transports existed in the Pacific but never heard that airlift was so efficient that makes transport ships (supply, reinforcements) useless (?). You are doing great job in game vs PzB, but even MacArthur wont go so deep in the enemy teritory - i guess your real target isn't Borneo? Aren't you are exploiting the Uber CAP too? (i'm totally aware i will face with Uber CAP soon to and i don't have nothing against that because i used it too early in the game! But there was always one restriction
for me - i didn't go further that i felt it was reasonable - Perth was perfect example of that - no enemy bases in the rear and nearby to support Perth!).

But i owe you an apology if i made bad presumptions on your final target (in next few months) and you stop at Borneo for some time (logistics).

But, lets talk about our game. I think i never asked more than it was needed. I'm not interested in the victory - i think you already realise that. I just wanted to have fun with this game and show some people that their crying on the forum is just laughable (I found some Mogami thoughts laughable even).

I wanted to have a game in the latter period of the game so we can see and prove that some things aren't right (and will strongly reccomend all players PDU off! unless they want automatic victory)

I accepted no conquer of whole China HR (that would relase quite a lot divisions for Burma defence and i could use SAA troops for Pacific so i could hope for geting this game in 45), i continued even when i realised that my KB was out of the action one month due to picket ships. Trust me, the whole game would took different course and you would be pretty
bad situation! But, i want fun so i said to myself lets continue.

If you are really think that you can't win without "no high kamis attitude" i will agree with that HR. Once again, but i can live with that. I can understand your position about kamis and high attitude.

I'm sure that you are also understand there is quite a lot bad things in design which penatlise Japan in the late period of the game. But, there is a little hope for changing anything because devs stated they will concentrate on bugs - so JFB "secret weapon" will remain useless...

regards, Kresimir


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