Slitherine

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is there some chance for any given battle of leaving a few divisions behind?

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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

Many players insisted that not having the battle limits would ruin the game for them.

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ORIGINAL: Grand_Armee

I often have an occasion where some division I KNOW I attached a few turns ago shows up later in the battle as a reinforcement. It's never been more than one division, and I've repeatedly had to add it to the army I had added it into before. It's a quirky little annoyance, but not a game breaker, for sure.

I always make sure that my Guard divisions are built into a corps, and not just attached to an army, though.

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ORIGINAL: Russian Guard
Thufir - my guess is that if you removed a Corps from the total Army forces the Guards are in, the Guards would begin to show up.

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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

Many players insisted that not having the battle limits would ruin the game for them.

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ORIGINAL: Russian Guard


Gentlemen, not quite sure what you are talking about. Each little green cube in an army represents 10,000 soldiers. I have seen French and even Turkish Armies running around with solid perfect squares of little green cubes, something like 500,000 men.

Two Armies like that collide, without limits, and you have a million men battling it out in one battle. Ludicrous, given the period.

Here's the battle limits:

Base 22 divisions (already at 11x10,000 = 110,000 men per side), plus or minus:

+1 per 2 levels of road development
+0 to 3 Random bonus
-3 in winter
-2 bad weather in province
+1 defender bonus
+1 per difficulty level -1 for AI controlled teams
-5 any team crossed a river
Plus the worst of terrain crossed while entering province or central terrain if any:
-10 mountains
-5 forest
-8 marsh

The base 110,000 covers Austerlitz, Jena, Friedland, Quatre Bras, Aeurstadt, and most other Napoleonic battles, including any Spanish campaign battle and Waterloo.
With a higher difficulty level, a little random bonus luck, and in the right (more roads) province the minimum can rise to 160,000 or more, per side, easily covering Borodino, Wagram, and the rare larger battles. While that doesn't cover Leipzig, remember that Leipzig was actually several smaller engagements over several days, rolled into one.

Now if you are arguing that the game battles shouldn't be limited to "historical" sizes, that's another issue, but these rules, while stringent, do keep battles within reasonable historical limits.

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ORIGINAL: Russian Guard


Gentlemen, not quite sure what you are talking about. Each little green cube in an army represents 10,000 soldiers. I have seen French and even Turkish Armies running around with solid perfect squares of little green cubes, something like 500,000 men.

Two Armies like that collide, without limits, and you have a million men battling it out in one battle. Ludicrous, given the period.

Here's the battle limits:

Base 22 divisions (already at 11x10,000 = 110,000 men per side), plus or minus:

+1 per 2 levels of road development
+0 to 3 Random bonus
-3 in winter
-2 bad weather in province
+1 defender bonus
+1 per difficulty level -1 for AI controlled teams
-5 any team crossed a river
Plus the worst of terrain crossed while entering province or central terrain if any:
-10 mountains
-5 forest
-8 marsh

The base 110,000 covers Austerlitz, Jena, Friedland, Quatre Bras, Aeurstadt, and most other Napoleonic battles, including any Spanish campaign battle and Waterloo.
With a higher difficulty level, a little random bonus luck, and in the right (more roads) province the minimum can rise to 160,000 or more, per side, easily covering Borodino, Wagram, and the rare larger battles. While that doesn't cover Leipzig, remember that Leipzig was actually several smaller engagements over several days, rolled into one.

Now if you are arguing that the game battles shouldn't be limited to "historical" sizes, that's another issue, but these rules, while stringent, do keep battles within reasonable historical limits.