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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 3:37:54 PM

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I will post a sceenshot tonight when I get home from work

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 3:52:09 PM

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If he decides to make a fight of it in Malaya, multiple divisions could soon be rushing down the rail lines from across Asia.
Question: Do you really want to get bogged down in a major slugfest if he decides to make it so?

A quick diversion could turn into a major quagmire. Plus, he's probably resting the most combat effective units in non-malarial bases, so readiness and moral would be high to counter your invasion.

Go for isolated bases, where the troops have been sucking it down in the jungle for months. They'll cave quickly, and you can build them up to what you need - which is hitting the next base down the line.

Don't get distracted, remember where Japan is.

I'm a Feb. '45 in my game, and would love an Allied invasion of Malaya. 3-4K AP of tanned, rested, and ready IJA troops with nothing better to do would fight to the death. Even losing, I'd be wrecking many Allied combat units - and that's the best Japan can hope for at this stage...

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 4:04:18 PM

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Now where to strike is the real question.

I can go North and land on either side of Malaya probably capture 1 or 2 bases and begin a malaya Campaign
I can go West and land at Batavia or the lvl 1 base below Palembang
I can go East and land at the lvl 1 base connected by road to the big lvl (6)3 AF on the NW coast of Borneo

You'll soon need a malaria-free base in this theatre to rest your troops for further operations (I think Batavia is in malaria zone?). What about Soerabaja?

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 5:34:26 PM

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Southern Java appears to be strongly held or else I would consider it.

Dont forget PZB has to garrison India in this game and also has 400,000 men on the Marianas he doesnt have masses of Divisons to play with.

Singapore is probably to strongly held for 3 Divisions to take but Johore/Malacca/Mersing/Alor Star plenty of bases that have to be vulnerable.

No decision yet but I am watching all options and checking my recon very carefully.

If any of the bases in Malaya are unguarded a para drop followed by troops unloading in a port would be a VERY attractive option.

Andy

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 7:27:01 PM

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Either take Singers or forget about Malaya and if you have enough troops to take it why wouldn't you go for Karachi (other than time)? I don't remember if/how the UK reinforcement list was affected. With how many divisions do you think you would have reinforce a lodgement on Malaya? I admit it would be interesting to see PzB's reaction. Your nw Borneo idea seems best to me, if you could take it quickly. Any idea on the garrison? Just my two cents.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 7:36:21 PM

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I think he has about 30k men in Singers

Re Karachi its just not worth it.

Its an urban hex with lvl 9 forts.

I would need 10 Divs and it would be a long fight.

It would take most of my amphib assets for 6 months when time is precious

There are only about 5 Divs waiting to come onto the map plus HQ's and engineers and 6 Armoured Bns

Ships countdown has stopped so the RN Carriers would not arrive in time for Korea never mind WW2

Another 1,000 aircraft would be nice but I already have thousands I cannot forward deploy because of lack of airbases

Overall just not worth it. A 3 - 4 Divisonal assualt on South India to try and recapture Calcutta is a possibility if I capture Singers but other than that its a waste of resources.

Andy

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 9/29/2006 7:50:21 PM

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quote:

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Southern Java appears to be strongly held or else I would consider it.

Dont forget PZB has to garrison India in this game and also has 400,000 men on the Marianas he doesnt have masses of Divisons to play with.

Singapore is probably to strongly held for 3 Divisions to take but Johore/Malacca/Mersing/Alor Star plenty of bases that have to be vulnerable.

No decision yet but I am watching all options and checking my recon very carefully.

If any of the bases in Malaya are unguarded a para drop followed by troops unloading in a port would be a VERY attractive option.

Andy

Hi,

I see no good reason for a landing in Malaya if Singapore is not the goal. But you'll need a malaria-free base in the west, thus Soerabaja seems to be the best choice. And once Soerabaja is taken, you easily can attack Batavia with its level 7 AF. And once you have a level 7 AF within range of Singapore, you can bomb the troops there to dust (imagine, 40x 500lb bomb on a Superfortress

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And no island hopping, no battle for the PI, the route to Formosa will be open within three months!

If it seems reasonable to take Java within one month you should go for it!

K

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 1:26:49 AM

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Malaya is worth landing in because its lightly defended and it has lots of AF's a giant unsinkable advanced aircraft carrier able to operate B29's.

I have discovered that Malacca down to ALor Star appears to be lightly garrisoned and that Singapore is not overly defended (30k men).

Malacca itself appears to be totally undefended

I am going to hit Palembang tomorrow to try and distract attention

My units are not prepped for that side BUT if I can take a port by Coup De Main then my troops are unloading not assaulting.....

It means entering the Malacca straight which I didnt want to do and it is a risk but hey risk is what its all about.

I was going to land at Pontianak but I am soooo tempted to try a 3rdCoup de main .....3rd time lucky !!!!

My Carriers hit hard at a surface Gp at Singapore yesterday I was hunting Tankers but I found a jucier prize I nevcer thought PZB would keep forces that close.

Malaya is sooooo tempting.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 20
Ki-102a Randy x 17

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
SB2C Helldiver x 51
TBM Avenger x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 8 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 6 destroyed, 20 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 21 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Maki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kaya
DD Kashi, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Maya, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Kitakami, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Chokai, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Hayashio, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Kiri

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 51

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
FM-2 Wildcat x 200
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 40 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Copahee
CVE Nassau
CVE Sitkoh Bay

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 2:07:05 PM

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Guys I am convinced its malaya all the way rightly or wrongly I am going for it !!!! (This could be blinded by opportunity)

I have assault loaded 2 Divs near Singapore (4th Aus and 9th Aus) and have follow up forces at sea of I think 3 more Divs (Not assault loaded) off the Borneo coast

Japs appear to have only 25 - 30k men at Singapore ? hmmmmm

I could actually land straight onto the island.

Had I assault loaded all 5 Divs I would not hesitate my options are

1. Johore/Mersing/Singapore - All garrsioned and I only have 2 Divs Assault loaded
2. Khota bahru/Kuantan - Garrison unknown and in range of masses of airbases
3. Malacca - Georgetown - Garrisons 'appear' light - Dare I risk the Malacca Straight - its dammed dangerous one MLer could ruin a lot of future plans.

Choices choices (my intel could stink PZB could have 150,000 men in the interior)

2 or 3 have the advantage of surprise - its sufficiently risky/stupid that he would never expect it

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 3:03:40 PM

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You are right, it is so stupid, PzB might not think one would do it.

Might I paint the negative picture for you?

Your TfS WILL HIT ENORMOUS MINEFIELDS; destroying masses of your precious landingcrafts. Bombers, torpedoeplanes and fighters from all India and Asia will get after you. They can use those level 7 airfields instantly. So you will have to fight, say 4000 fighters and 2000 bombers, all with 6 carriers. Your Hellcat pool will be empty very fast and kamikazes will damage several of your important battleships and carriers.
This whole thing looks like an enormous trap, if you ask me. PzB doesn�t beg for an invasion without having a plan. He could bring in all divisions from India and several divisions from China, all very fast along the rail lines. If you do not conquer Malaya in two weeks you will be stuck with 3/4 of the Japanese army stepping on your feet and 2/3 of the Japanese LBA above you.
If you win (I estimate your chances 1:9) you have defeated Japan�s Asia army, won Malaya and lost parts of your precious troops and ships. But, as a matter of fact Japnese Asia Army is useless because there is nothing in Asia to fight against. Do you think your 2 divisions would hold out against 30 Japanese divisions (most of them prepped for Singers?
Attack islands.There are lots of islands in the Phillippines and along the Chinese coast. These are waiting for you. Trying Malaya is not the most clever idea, imho.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 3:31:42 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Frank

You are right, it is so stupid, PzB might not think one would do it.

Might I paint the negative picture for you?

Your TfS WILL HIT ENORMOUS MINEFIELDS; destroying masses of your precious landingcrafts. Bombers, torpedoeplanes and fighters from all India and Asia will get after you. They can use those level 7 airfields instantly. So you will have to fight, say 4000 fighters and 2000 bombers, all with 6 carriers. Your Hellcat pool will be empty very fast and kamikazes will damage several of your important battleships and carriers.
This whole thing looks like an enormous trap, if you ask me. PzB doesn�t beg for an invasion without having a plan. He could bring in all divisions from India and several divisions from China, all very fast along the rail lines. If you do not conquer Malaya in two weeks you will be stuck with 3/4 of the Japanese army stepping on your feet and 2/3 of the Japanese LBA above you.
If you win (I estimate your chances 1:9) you have defeated Japan�s Asia army, won Malaya and lost parts of your precious troops and ships. But, as a matter of fact Japnese Asia Army is useless because there is nothing in Asia to fight against. Do you think your 2 divisions would hold out against 30 Japanese divisions (most of them prepped for Singers?
Attack islands.There are lots of islands in the Phillippines and along the Chinese coast. These are waiting for you. Trying Malaya is not the most clever idea, imho.

I agree with Frank.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 3:48:48 PM

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I think you want Malaya for two reasons: the shipyard at Singapore and the large airfields.
However, how does taking Malaya and tying down of unknown amount of LCU's to prolong combat (PzB will send troops down from Ragoon to India) get you into range of your B-29's to bomb first China and then Japan itself??

You need to stop his flow of oil/resources from the SRA/India and then attack his training bases in China to get his air force cutted back experience wise.
When it comes to going through the Malacca Straights, I don't think there is that much of a threat of minefields as he would need to use it to get ships to and from India through it.

IMO, I prefer a Northern Borneo strategy, but you already know that.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 3:57:26 PM

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If you really have to land in Malaya, please keep off Indochina. It will bring PzB two or three additional divisions.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/2/2006 4:57:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Frank

If you really have to land in Malaya, please keep off Indochina. It will bring PzB two or three additional divisions.

those divisions will arrive at 1/4 or 1/3 (can't remember) strength with approx 50 exp and 7-100 AP's. Not too substantial.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/3/2006 11:27:41 PM

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Not to bothered about Indo china I just want Malaya.....

It opens up India to raids , strands what forces PZB has in India there for the duration, dominates the trade routes and oil sources (subs wont work to many ASW aircraft), possibly an advanced port and base all told its a good thing IF i can get it done.

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RE: Airborne Addict !!!! - 10/6/2006 1:06:56 AM

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Quiet one but my heavies raided Palembang in a diversionary raid.

Time for the main event I will post a screenshot in a few seconds

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/20/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 306
J2M Jack x 101
D4Y Judy x 126
B6N Jill x 69
G4M1 Betty x 27
G4M2 Betty x 34
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 35
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 36

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 364

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 25

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 63
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 48
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 53
Ki-102a Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 28
F6F Hellcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 28 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 42
N1K1-J George x 6
J2M Jack x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 18

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 6
P-38J Lightning x 44
B-24J Liberator x 86
B-29 Superfortress x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 25 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
J2M Jack: 8 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 3 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 10 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 23 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 10 destroyed, 41 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pinrang , at 31,67

Allied aircraft
F6F-5N Hellcat x 12

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
Spitfire VIII x 5
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-38J Lightning x 3
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
2 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 29
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
F6F-5N Hellcat x 13
Hurricane II x 10
Kittyhawk III x 15

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x F6F-5N Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hansa , at 53,83

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 35

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
20 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 22nd Engineer Regiment, at 45,76

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 21
Boomerang II x 9
Beaufort V-IX x 7
P-40N Warhawk x 50
A-20G Havoc x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 39

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 15000 feet
6 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
10 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 15000 feet
34 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
12 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 22nd Engineer Regiment, at 45,76

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 4
Kittyhawk III x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 20
P-38J Lightning x 6
F-5C Lightning x 1
A-20G Havoc x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 6
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 36

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Kittyhawk III bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
18 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
8 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 10000 feet
18 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 81,84

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 22
P-40N Warhawk x 29

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
18 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
11 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
11 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
Boomerang II x 3
Beaufort V-IX x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 15
A-20G Havoc x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 15000 feet
3 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 15000 feet
12 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12
P-38J Lightning x 3
F-5C Lightning x 1
A-20G Havoc x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Kittyhawk III bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 10000 feet
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 10000 feet
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 44
N1K1-J George x 12
J2M Jack x 15
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 7
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 37
F4U-1D Corsair x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 30 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed
J2M Jack: 9 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

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Day Air attack on Brunei , at 32,57

Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 14

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Tarakan , at 33,61

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 13

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet

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MALAYA - 10/6/2006 1:22:45 AM

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OK we are going in !!!

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 1:26:57 AM

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I also have Base Forces Seabeas etc total 136,000 men 580 Shermans, Grants and Honeys and 200,000 tonnes of supply albeit in multiple waves

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 1:34:05 AM

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The big difference (I hope) this time over my last two para assaults is that I have FT troops ready to land in support on the same night as the paras go in and the 1st wave with two full combat divs are ready to follow up straight away.

But if I dont manage to close Singapore then I am ready to pull out before I commit if I have to.

2 Carrier TF's are going to hit Singapore hard !!!!

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 2:09:16 AM

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Last point for tonight there seems to be no dispersal of Japanese airpower in Malaya.

Its weird Singapore is stacked and a very tempting target hence my taking the bombardment risk with the Iowa TF.

If my TF's take out Singapore then my landings will be a doddle !!!

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 2:27:55 AM

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I would land in Johore or Mersing. If you take one of them, then the second and third wave troops can unload on a friendly port, instead of taking the disruption. Plus you have CAP, and can interdict the Air Transport into Singapore

Going to the strongest point of the defense in Malaya doesnt seem wise to me

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 12:16:41 PM

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Sorry If I wasnt clear I am landing at Malacca as it appears unguarded

Paratrooper size the port tonight and in 72 Hours I land 50,000 men over the port.

I was not willing to risk the Malacca straight with Singapore Operational so I am taking some risks to neutralise the AF I am not intending to actually land at Singapore.

If I can get 500 Tanks operational in Malaya I should be able to sieze the Songkia choke point and dig in to secure the whole peninsula

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 12:50:14 PM

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�� Ok, then bomb Singapore back to the stone age ��

Have you thought landing into Banka Islanda (South of Singapore) to provide airstrike capacities ?

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 2:05:56 PM

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I hope there will be no need if I secure Malacca Aerodrome I can have 100 Fighter Bombers operating in 24 hours its a 2(2) AF so I have 6 Bns of Seabees plus baseforces coming in plus the northern half of Malaya looks denuded of troops.

Overall 1. if my Para landing works tonight securing a port and AF on Malaya on day 1 of the campaign and 2. Singapore is neutralised by the combination of Bombardment, Carrier Air and Superforts from Banja) the Malaya campagn becomes an acceptable risk if either action is not successful I need to reconsider and balance the risk.

The Malacca straight is a death trap if Singapore is operational

My carriers neutralised the Jap surface fleet in the area 2 days ago damaging three CA's so the real threat is LBA and PZB appears to have over concentrated his LBA at Singapore.......

Only time will tell

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 3:26:09 PM

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The more I think on it the more ahead of myself I get !!!

IF I take Malacca then my main force lands there clearly this is the correct answer it avoids disruption and secures a solid base to operate from.

Should I attempt to go deeper to try and cut the Japanese in Malaya into penny packets.

I could land forces at Taiping, Mersing, Johore and probably Alor Star on day 3 from follow on forces the disruption and casualties would be nasty BUT it would shatter defences.

Or perhaps I should just stop biting my nails and wait for PZB to send the turn back before I let my imagination run away with me again !!!!

Andy

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 4:50:58 PM

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Do you intend to take Singapore after landing at Malacca? If you do, you'll need to give them plenty of rest before assaulting Singapore because you will have to assault across the river. That means automatic shock attacks.

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 5:44:13 PM

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To be honest I am not sure.

Alor Star/Khota Baru/Kuantan will give me the AF's I need to both threaten Burma/India and cut off Palembang as well as allowing me bring into play some of the thousands of aircraft I just cannot forward deploy at present.

With those AF's under my control Liberators and Superforts will range desolation accross the whole of SEA.

Singapore itself is nice to have rather than essential

I can then consider a drive on Formosa via North Borneo.

10th Army is still prepping for the Marianas so I will have two routes for an early 45 offensive to get Superforts in range of HI.

If PZB runs to Singapore and forts up with enough troops I may just leave him to rot there.

Singapore itself is a nice to have but not essential.

I am committing 136,000 troops and 600 tanks PZB has 45 - 50k in Singapore and does not appear to have large numbers elsewhere in Malaya.

I suspect my deployment will be dictated by what PZB brings down from Thailand and Burma.

I have about another 7 Divisons of the ABDA Corps and a US Corps still at Darwin but I dont particularily want to commit them to Malaya.

They are being saved for a cunning little operation I have planned.....

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 5:59:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Singapore itself is nice to have rather than essential

As I told you before

: You'll need a non-malaria base!

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RE: MALAYA - 10/6/2006 8:28:55 PM

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Need is such a strong word.....

I agree it would be nice and usefull not to mention the lvl 9 AF and port and a shipyard but it isnt crucial to my plans.

It will really depend on whether or not PZB reinforces Singapore.

I can allow c 2 months for this campaign but probably not much more.

I will need my shipping elsewhere in the not to distant future.

But I must not get ahead of myself I dont even know yet if my Paratroopers captured Malacca or if my AF and carrriers got wiped out by Singapore CAP/Retaliation

Andy

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RE: MALAYA - 10/7/2006 12:43:48 AM

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I found out that a malaria free base isn�t as essential in the game as it would be in real life. I have troops sitting in malaria bases for over a year with enough support and they do just fine. First they get some disablements but stay at 95% of combat strength. So a non malaria base isn�t that important I think.

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