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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 12:57:00 AM

Andy Mac

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Normal Combat replay not a lot to report I need to open up a land link to Hue in order to launch strategic missions apart from that the theatre is now quiet

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/15/45
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27
Ki-102a Randy x 12

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-102a Randy bombing at 2000 feet
24 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
3 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-102a Randy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 56
Ki-67 Peggy x 20
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 10000 feet
24 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
23 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 10000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 10
B-24J Liberator x 14

No Allied losses

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 5
PB4Y Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 11
PB4Y Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
P-51D Mustang x 27
B-24J Liberator x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator laying mines at 10000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator laying mines at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator laying mines at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Jaluit , at 81,84

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 8
A-26B Invader x 26

No Allied losses

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A-26B Invader bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 32,40

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
11 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
5 x F4U-1 Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 32,40

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 39
P-51D Mustang x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 36
A-26B Invader x 38
PB4Y Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 35

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
382 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
6 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
11 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
28 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
30 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 x P-51D Mustang bombing at 2000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
5 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
10 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
8 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
5 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th/C Division, at 29,39

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 12
A-26B Invader x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
7 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
12 x P-47D Thunderbolt bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 33
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Frank J. Cuhel, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 33
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 22 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 20 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Admiralty Island, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
CVE Matanikau, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,56

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Nitiyu Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 80326 troops, 821 guns, 595 vehicles, Assault Value = 1856

Defending force 61622 troops, 567 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1309

Allied ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Bien Hoa

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 125809 troops, 1363 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3338

Defending force 51367 troops, 376 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 928

Japanese ground losses:
326 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 32,40

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16753 troops, 208 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 378

Defending force 9888 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at 27,39

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7863 troops, 103 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 154

Defending force 3478 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese max assault: 127 - adjusted assault: 64

Allied max defense: 39 - adjusted defense: 43

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 1:11:38 AM

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OK now for the SAC report

11th AF (Wake)

8 Bomb Groups

Only 2 the 504th and 505th BG are ordered to sortie tonight against a research factory in Tokyo ony 20 B29's out of the 96 in the two BG's are operational all other BG's are resting

20th AF (Hue)

9 Bomb Groups (3 currently at Singapore)

Ordered to support the attacks on the enemy LOC therfore not operating as a strategic AF yet due to issues forward deploying munitions from Bankok

500th BG with 42 Operational B29's is ordered to sortie against a suspected research facility at Nagasaki

5th AF (Aleutians)

1 Bomb Group 18 Operational aircraft targeting an Oil Well at Sapporo

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 2:53:35 AM

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I'd aim for resources if you're going after raw materials. In the mid to late war I've always been able to stockpile pretty large reserves of oil, but resources are always in short supply (manpower sucks them down, and you can't turn it off).

Just my opinion - but if you're going for economic strikes, resources hurt in more ways than one...

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 7:20:56 AM

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Do you get Tigercats at least? Yes, seems odd that a game that can end 1946 doesn't have Bearcats/ Sea Furies/ Meteors

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 5:19:18 PM

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Nope no tigercats I was always one of the players who said no need for late war aircraft however giving them to one side when that side also has control of production but not the other side may be unbalancing - we shall see how it works out it should be interesting to say the least.....

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 6:53:32 PM

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OK guys Assault Force Yankee is now 360 miles north of Pearl consisting of the US 10th Army X Corps has 3 Divs and XI Corps has 3.67 Divs

Total force including armour is equivalent to 7 Divisions.

It is covered by 3 CVE's which will be joined by a TF of 4 more in mid ocean.

A further Fleet Carrier TF and heavy surface force will join them in due course.

Assault Force Zulu consisting of a further 3 Corps of 6th US Army and the 16th Army Group Reserve Corps will be departing from Pearl within 3 days.

In total 1,600 ships are being committed to this attack with TF's rendevouing from tarawa, Kwajalein, Marcus, US West Coast and Pearl.

Its my single biggest combined operation with nearly 400,000 men and god knows how many tanks and vehicles set to one objective GET A FIGHTER BASE IN RANGE OF JAPAN

Nothing else matters !!!!

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 7:18:33 PM

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I was hoping to reinforce with a strong Corps from the West but it is now clear that fighting a convoy through the gap between PI and Formosa is not possible

I tried it with my AK convoy and my carrier strength in the West is insufficient.

Instead the carriers and surface vessels will be used to fight a convoy south to Darwin where it will pick up and re supply malaya.

After I secure SEA and destroy Japanese forces in the south I will immediately begin resting troops for the next phase

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/5/2007 7:31:16 PM

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You might want to ship some oil to the bases you've acquired there.

Get the factories to start producing supplies for you, and cut down on the logistics a bit...

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 12:06:29 PM

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OK guys 17th April 45

11th AF (Wake) Lt Gen Chenault was tranferred in to take command and had 271 operational B29's a raid was launched against Sapporo's Oil refinery over 200 found the target in daylight and smashed it BDA indicates heavy damage.

20th AF (Hue) Had 179 B29's operational and an effort strike was launched in daylight against Hiroshima again BDA indicates heavy damage.

18th April

11th AF (Wake) 125 Operational B29's ordered a night raid on Tokyo.

20th AF (Hue) 197 Operational B29's ordered to hit Nagasaki by night.

Does anyone know what I should target and how many hits I need to cause a firestorm ? I suspect I need to hit them harder than I am currently able.

Andy

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 12:51:37 PM

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quote:

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OK guys 17th April 45

11th AF (Wake) Lt Gen Chenault was tranferred in to take command and had 271 operational B29's a raid was launched against Sapporo's Oil refinery over 200 found the target in daylight and smashed it BDA indicates heavy damage.

20th AF (Hue) Had 179 B29's operational and an effort strike was launched in daylight against Hiroshima again BDA indicates heavy damage.

18th April

11th AF (Wake) 125 Operational B29's ordered a night raid on Tokyo.

20th AF (Hue) 197 Operational B29's ordered to hit Nagasaki by night.

Does anyone know what I should target and how many hits I need to cause a firestorm ? I suspect I need to hit them harder than I am currently able.

Andy

Afaik there was an analysis a while back that showed that a night attack was useless in creating firestorms. Strong day attacks did create enough fire to damage all the industries to some degree.

PZB has probably gathered enough HI and resources and oil in his pools that it would be most effective to target his airplane and engine factories.

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 1:18:57 PM

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Thanks String,

Am I correct in saying I need to target manpower for firestorms and how does anyone know how I tell the level of a firestorm in a city ?

Andy

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 1:28:20 PM

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My supply levels in malaya and SEA outside of Hue are critical.

I am withdrawing all non B29 4E bombers to Australia and concentrating on 2 tasks

1. elimination of forces in the Cmranh Bay pocket.
2. SAC

A convoy is loading in Darwin which will provide supply for my next little adventure.....

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 1:30:05 PM

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Actually if anyone has had a game get to the stage of bombing Japan I would appreciate any tips

How do I destroy Japanese Industry ?

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 1:33:38 PM

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quote:

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Thanks String,

Am I correct in saying I need to target manpower for firestorms and how does anyone know how I tell the level of a firestorm in a city ?

Andy

Yep, you target manpower, and after the strike you get firelevels on the hex floating overlay or whatever they call it. 100-200k is supposedly a decent firestorm

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 1:40:13 PM

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Hi Andy,

Destruction of it is hard. You can damage most of it.

My experience of it is thus:

without fighter cover it will be hard to do much on one location consistently. For example. Lets say you're attacking Tokyo. If you attack at night you do next to no damage. As String says it is almost impossible to get any fire damage going. If you attack at day you will be able to either:

1.) Damage specific industries fairly well with raids of 100+ B29's.

2.) Get a few 1000 fires going with Manpower hits.

Now here's the problem you'll have. PzB will likely reinforce Tokyo after tjhis first days raids with a host of other fighters = you will be unable to attack it again on the 2nd day which is what you need to do to get the fires up and up.

In short what i'm saying is without fighter escort I feel the only damage you can do to Japanese industry is random attacks on specific industry factories on daily changing locations (Tokyo, Osaka etc) It will not be possible to bomb a target consistently for weeks, fuelling fires and eventually creating firestorm factory damage, since PzB will bring in enough CAP to prevent future bombing.

Shoot and scoot.............

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 2:00:12 PM

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Do you have mossie recons or any other type of recons in range of HI to scout out bases? High detection level is always good

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 2:38:48 PM

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Tought to get to places near enough for that.

I have Mossie Recon in China that can reach Nagasaki.

Andy should be able to from Marcus.

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 2:59:45 PM

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Thanks for the tips guys if I can take Toyohara P51's will sweep/escort attacks while B24's join in the fun !!!

I have 1 Sqn of Mossies in this game they are currently split a 5 plane element with 11th AF on Marcus and the rest of the Sqn at Hue.

Its not ideal but all I have.

My general outline for the rest of this game is as follows.

1. Take a fighter/B24 Base in range of HI
2. Eliminate Camrahn Bay Pocket
3. Attempt a landing on Japan proper
4 Re Supply Malaya
5 Attack India (with 1st Aus Army only)

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/8/2007 3:15:57 PM

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6. Crush Manchuko under the the mighty Soviet War Machine !!!!

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/9/2007 12:55:59 AM

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20th AF 202 B29's Aircraft Targeting Kityami Manpower Daylight raid
11th AF 130 B29's ircraft Night Attacking Tokyo

Current Strategic Score 848

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/9/2007 12:57:36 AM

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Previous days SAC result not a lot to say

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/18/45

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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 3
C6N1-S Myrt x 34
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 15

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 10 damaged

Manpower hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 1
C6N1-S Myrt x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 69

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Mitsubishi Engines hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
20 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Sapporo , at 70,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 13
J2M Jack x 17
Ki-102a Randy x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 damaged
J2M Jack: 11 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/9/2007 10:44:00 PM

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Quiet few days SAC has been on stand down to try and get some more serviceability out my Bomb Groups at present I am up to 1704 VP's and have 171 Operationa Forts at 20th Airforce and 150 at the 11th I would like to get both AF's above 200 before my next sortie

I need to lower the range to make SAC decisive.

In other news CVE's transiting to Darwin knocked off some Jap convoys a re supply convoy with 300,000 supply is loading and will rendevous witht he carriers for close escort.

A second convoy atr Marcus is loading to reinforce the beachhead on Iwo it will be sescorted by my carriers operating out of Marcus

Andy

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 12:06:41 AM

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Bien Hoa Falls 1st of the three more to follow

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/23/45

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Naval bombardment of Iwo Jima, at 63,53

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
CL Yahagi
CA Nachi
CA Takao
BB Mutsu
BB Kirishima

Allied ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 8

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 42
Ki-46-III Dinah x 3

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
13 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 21

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
Spitfire XIV x 10
P-51D Mustang x 16
PB4Y Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire XIV: 2 destroyed

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 14
A-26B Invader x 22
B-24J Liberator x 23

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Runway hits 1
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
19 x A-26B Invader bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
12 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 10000 feet
2 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 31,45

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
PB4Y Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Menado , at 39,67

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
Liberator VI x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 16
F-5C Lightning x 1
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 38

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd USA Division, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th USMC Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 25
Ki-100 Tony x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 12000 feet
16 x B6N Jill bombing at 14000 feet
25 x B7A Grace bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./A Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 30
P-51D Mustang x 10
B-25J Mitchell x 22
A-26B Invader x 35
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 32

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
8 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
32 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
12 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
22 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
18 x P-38J Lightning bombing at 2000 feet
10 x P-51D Mustang bombing at 2000 feet
8 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./B Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 43
Kittyhawk III x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 29
A-26B Invader x 37

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Kittyhawk III bombing at 2000 feet
37 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
43 x TBM Avenger bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
TBM Avenger x 32

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK San Francisco Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Norfolk Maru
AK Ryuun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Yamabuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Tokusima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Okitu Maru
AK Unyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
TBM Avenger x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Ryuun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Unyo Maru, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86360 troops, 888 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 1975

Defending force 58410 troops, 531 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 1269

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Bien Hoa

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 139043 troops, 1015 guns, 1261 vehicles, Assault Value = 2447

Defending force 16342 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Allied max assault: 4066 - adjusted assault: 4929

Japanese max defense: 215 - adjusted defense: 437

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bien Hoa base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
942 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
543 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 5

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:09:57 PM

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Turns are moving quickly as my fleet congregates at Midway the stat AF's are resting.

In the West 20th AF will try to hit Nagasaki by day tomorrow and will hopefully damge it heavily.

I am saving the 11th AF to some extent as I want maximum readiness when my fleet closes in on Japan.

I am reconsidering my force allocations

10th Army has 7 Divs for the attack on Toyohara BUT i must assume lvl 9 forts and 2 - 3 Defending Divs. so allowing for disruption I think I am light on forces.

Accordingly I will be committing the reserve ANZAC Corps of 4 Divs in direct support and will consider addign a 3rd Corps to 10th Army from 6th Armies floating reserve.

14 Divs is probably overkill but I want and need that base quick so I will use all force available to me....

Part of me is really tempted to land at the Jap base in the North and allow my troops to unload in safety and then march down the island but I wont !!!

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:11:42 PM

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Op: Haymaker?

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:11:52 PM

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When all TF's are in position I will provide a full rundown but in summary there wil be c 1,500 ships involved in this attack....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/24/45

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Day Air attack on Akita , at 68,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 19

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 152

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged

Manpower hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
27 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 7

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 42
Ki-46-III Dinah x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
13 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 13
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 14
A-26B Invader x 20
B-24J Liberator x 19

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
14 x A-26B Invader bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
12 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 17000 feet
6 x A-26B Invader bombing at 10000 feet
2 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on Sampit , at 26,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 24
B7A Grace x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
B7A Grace: 9 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
PB4Y Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
5 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 38

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Menado , at 39,67

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Liberator VI x 16

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Liberator VI bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st USA Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 24
Ki-100 Tony x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 12000 feet
16 x B6N Jill bombing at 14000 feet
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,39

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 15
A-26B Invader x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
9 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on 143rd IJN Base Force, at 31,46

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 41
Kittyhawk III x 13
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 29
A-26B Invader x 27

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Kittyhawk III bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
41 x TBM Avenger bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,61

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 24
F6F Hellcat x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
TBM Avenger x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Shoyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,61

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Shoyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,61

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
TBM Avenger x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 6
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 36
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Saginaw Bay

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Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86355 troops, 889 guns, 614 vehicles, Assault Value = 1976

Defending force 58208 troops, 522 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 1268

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:30:55 PM

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Just to help understand the scale....

p.s. the units at Pearl will follow on as they are faster I am trying to knock off more sys before committing them

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:33:59 PM

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That is a pretty nasty armada you got there.

I'd suggest gathering a few PT's in pools to create when you capture toyohara.

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:44:01 PM

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In addition the Lake Champlain TF is en route but is on the on the list above

Under repair

Enterprise 39 Sys
Independence 37 Sys
Hancock 25 Sys
Hornet 32 Sys
Essex 43 Sys
Franklin 26 Sys
Tico 35 Sys

and Boxer arrives in 20 Days

Of these I expect Hancok, Boxer and Franklin to be able to join the fleet before I commit as Hancock is alone in San Fran so is repairing quickly and Franmklyn is in dry dock at Pearl so when Boxer arrives she will sail with Hancock who should be almost fully repaired to join Franklyn at Pearl

The others I estimate will take longer and will provide wave 2 reinforcement for the fleet

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RE: SAC Strikes Back !!! - 6/10/2007 2:45:03 PM

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Na I would but PZB like Pauk hates them so I only create them in backwater i.e. lvl 9 ports and then ferry them forward.

Plus thats what DD's are for !!!!

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