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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 8/29/2007 1:51:01 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I am now at work having sent off the turn and am very nervous about having went back in for Gumma methinks I may have over reached.....

I am also hard at work thinking about a new plan to blast my way through to the Home Islands

It aint cunning its very very Brute Force but that does not mean it wont work.

I am thinking I can probably muster 30 Divs now no matter what PZB has on Okinawa I probably have the firepower to take it.

Bonin Island -> Naga -> Okinawa just pound my way through via brute force I would need Clark 1st to allow me a forward rest area but apart from that itshould be doable ?

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/6/2007 1:20:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have withdrawn slightly and am attacking at Clak and Linguyen I also have a cunning plan for Manila...

If I feint at Manila from the sea and air I think PZB will pull out of Clark Field.

I think my next real target has to be Okinawa

8th US Army has about 5000 AV at present and has finished its refit at Camranh Bay - I will commence loading and will use that fleet to feint at manila and then sail onto Okinawa.

Okinawa will be a hard nut to take but if I need to enter into a hard nasty mountian fight then I may as well pick Okinawa as anywhere else.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/6/2007 1:54:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Luckily for you the Shinden with its very short legs is crap at escorting and Reppus and Franks, while good planes, cannot break the UBERCAP, so his offensive firepower isn't big, on the other hand defensively he will be quite strong.

But there is no spine that a couple of sweeps with 250 P51s followed by 250 B29s can't break...

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/6/2007 6:36:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Formosa might be a better option. Or consolidation in the Phillipines where things are a bit bogged down. The sooner you get ahold of those lvl 4 airfields the worse it is for PzB -- then you can cover a lot of invasions with LBA based on Clark Field or nearby. Will help with the future invasions.

But what about retaking India? I know you're not playing for VPs, but it seems that that has the potential to really swing things in your favor by that measure.

You can also bag a lot of points with strategic bombing; that's added a lot already to the VP totals, but the realy pay-off is in destroyed Japanese aircraft factories. Less Shindens to face in future if you can keep doing what you have been trying to do.

I know the strategic war is about over, but releasing your subs might be a good thing -- at least to make sure the outposts of the Empire are withering and not sending/receiving supplies. Interdicting Iwo with subs might help your beleagured ground troops, too.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/6/2007 10:16:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Formosa is very heavily defended and in range of several range 2 AF's so Shindens come into play

I have a lot of lvl 4 AF's in north PI Vigan, Laong, Appari and Tuguero to cover invasions and after this latest turn I will be standing down all 124 P51's to rest and get ready for future operations

Strat Bombing is a good point scorer but Manpower is a waste of time target and I need to get fighters in range to do real damage and that means Okinawa.

India is tough I have Yanam in the south and when it is level 4 AF I will consider moving out but playing that one slightly slow appears to be the way to proceed.

Iwo is a prion camp for him as well but subs are out there I have just lost soooo many of them that I dont know what to do now.


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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/9/2007 7:10:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm assuming that the VPs/level of victory aren't really your concern at this point, right?

If that's the case, then I assume you'll be using nukes every month or holding off and unleashing an Armageddon Alpha Strike on several targets simultaneously -- I'd like to see the latter, especially if a seaborne invasion of the Home Islands followed right on its heels!

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/9/2007 7:19:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Umm no I am watching VP's carefully

I need 1.8x with no more than 2 A Bombs to get a draw by March 46

As soon as I get a nuke Gumma is toast one month later Tokyo's getting it I just dont have them yet.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/9/2007 7:50:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Last I saw the VPs were 103K-87K (1.18x). If his numbers hold steady, you'd need about 156K to win, but his are likely to go down a bit as you retake bases. I think he might have made an error in India building up Lvl9 forts as that raises their value in VPs when you take them back. Not sure what the numbers in India would look like, but it is bound to be thousands taken from him and added to your totals. Not sure if that would make victory possible without invading the Home Islands, but if you're keeping a close eye on VPs then looking at where the VPs are to be had might be helpful -- any chance you might post some of that info?


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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/10/2007 12:52:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Will do I need to wait for PZB's next turn and its 156k for the draw I cannot win now !!!

I only have 5 Divs in India so its unlikely I will make much progress (and one of those went off road for some reason - I hate movement mechanics)

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/11/2007 2:30:32 AM   
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I think he might have made an error in India building up Lvl9 forts as that raises their value in VPs when you take them back. Not sure what the numbers in India would look like, but it is bound to be thousands taken from him and added to your totals.



Forts don't affect VP values, only airfields and ports.
And even for airfields and ports, the Allies have a bazillion engineers, they could build them up themselves.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/11/2007 11:02:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: medck

I think he might have made an error in India building up Lvl9 forts as that raises their value in VPs when you take them back. Not sure what the numbers in India would look like, but it is bound to be thousands taken from him and added to your totals.



Forts don't affect VP values, only airfields and ports.
And even for airfields and ports, the Allies have a bazillion engineers, they could build them up themselves.



that's useful to know -- a way to get some more VPs in the end-game -- never let your engineers rest, always build up facilities (or prep for the next invasion!)

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 12:25:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK we are back in dodge and running turns I tried to hit Tokyo to be honest I am dissapointed in the results my Superforts seem to do no damage I had over 200 hit Tokyo in daylight attacking manpower and did swwet FA damage WTF doesa it take to get a firestorm going.

Change in plan I am going to take Colombo as it is lightly guarded

Also decided not to go for Okinawa I figured I will finish off PI 1st and will land a large force at manila PZB only has 15,000 men and 12 units in the city I think he has sent em all to Clark

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 12:29:34 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/10/45
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Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 48
N1K1-J George x 16
J7W Shinden x 30
Ki-100 Tony x 19

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 78
F4U-1D Corsair x 110
Corsair IV x 9
SB2C Helldiver x 31
TBM Avenger x 73

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 46 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 14 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 22 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 19 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 11 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 4 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 51 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 31 destroyed, 6 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
TBM Avenger: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
14 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
15 x TBM Avenger bombing at 10000 feet
13 x TBM Avenger bombing at 10000 feet
17 x TBM Avenger bombing at 10000 feet
17 x TBM Avenger bombing at 10000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 3
N1K1-J George x 2
J7W Shinden x 9
Ki-100 Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 76

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 9 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43


Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 215


Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 damaged

Manpower hits 516



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 14 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 11 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 3 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
18 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pisanuloke , at 32,38


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8


No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lingayen , at 44,50


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 20


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 11th Aviation Rgt , at 43,52


Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 28
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1D Corsair x 75
TBM Avenger x 50
A-26B Invader x 26


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
212 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
17 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
25 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
18 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
6 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
16 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
17 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
11 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
15 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Yokosuka 7th SNLF, at 43,52


Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
6 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 10
A-26B Invader x 2


Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-26B Invader attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 69,46

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 23 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB Alabama

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Day Air attack on TF at 20,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Ki-49 Helen x 13

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Kwajalein, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 19,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Irwin

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 12:58:50 AM   
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I think i've done enough testing of Manpower hits in my game vs Fasbrer at Gumma. My conclusiondon;t do it. You can achieve far better results by precision bombing. I bombed a relartively unopposed city for 2 weeks solid and number of fires actually DECREASED (due to wear and tear ther number of B29's that flew dropped. If you miss a day due to weather the fires drop by 70-80%!) Check my AAR for the results but seriously don't go for Manpower. Go for specific industries.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 1:14:09 AM   
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its reall simple actually




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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 1:20:01 AM   
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Thanks Speedy but that is worrying the allies NEED the 20 points for destroying industry and the only way to do it is via firestorms I have been bombing the HI for months and only have 5,000 points I was counting on 60 or 70,000 to get up to a draw but this looks increasingly unlikely


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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 1:29:40 AM   
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like 1000 or more in 1 raid

i forget


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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 1:36:40 AM   
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I think i've done enough testing of Manpower hits in my game vs Fasbrer at Gumma. My conclusiondon;t do it. You can achieve far better results by precision bombing. I bombed a relartively unopposed city for 2 weeks solid and number of fires actually DECREASED (due to wear and tear ther number of B29's that flew dropped. If you miss a day due to weather the fires drop by 70-80%!) Check my AAR for the results but seriously don't go for Manpower. Go for specific industries.

We have to face the reality that most of the things which are supposed to happen late in the war just don't sound right, whenever they even accept to work.
Eventually, a substancial amout of AARs are starting to get well into 1945 2 years after the initial release, I suppose it is time to address these issues then

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 2:08:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Marky but I disagree. I would like to see that. If you owned Saipan and Tinian with masses of B29's on each and you flew raids for days on end for 2 months I think it would be an option but I can't see that happening in Stock games.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 3:12:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		How do you get 1,000 B29's I have at max about 600 in all sqns and i cannot sustain operations at best I can get 300 over target on a max day effort and it is not enough to cause a firestorm.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 3:13:49 PM   
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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 3:15:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am gambling slightly in landing at Manila I dont think PZB has much there but urban plus lvl 9 forts could hurt...

But he didnt detect me until I was one turn away and if he has left the barn door open.....

If I can consolidate into the PI resupply and give my troops a couple of months rest then lat 45 could see a real push on the HI.

I need to now accept that the game will go into 46 and play for the draw.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 3:16:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am bombing at 6,000 feet in daylight and 250 29's did about 300 VP's worth of damage thats either 15 destroyed industry or 150 damaged - given that tokyo probably has 10,000 industry points (resources/HI and factories) thats not a lot of damage

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 4:28:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought long and hard about recent operations the temptation to go after Okinawa was very high but on balance I feel the Manila option is better - at most PZB will have 1 Division there and I can land 4000+ AV and keep reinforcing even 400 AV X 4 (Forts) x 4 (Urban) is a tough nut to crack for 4,000 AV BU I can bring in BB's and Air Attacks to weaken them plus my guys are very tough and highly experienced so it hink this is a better option...

I suspect the forces of 1st Australian Army (including the 2 US Corps) will look down on those CENTPAC pansies after all these are the guys that landed on New Guinea, Sulawesi, Borneo, Malaya, won the Battle of Bangkok, Saigon and Camrahn bay. (We dont mention Zamboanga....)

So they have to land and take the pressure off of 6th and 10th US Armies who have slogged their guts out accross the mountains and jungles of North Luzon but are now hung up at lingyen and Clark......

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 5:38:51 PM   
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516 Manpower hits and no firestorm what do  need to do to hit his production ?




An atom bomb?


Glad to see you're starting to focus your attacks somewhat more in the PI. Maybe some of those 4E bombers could start pounding Clark? Anyways, creating a bunch a seiges on tough-to-crack bases is just going to tie up a lot of your forces. A single huge stack is probably the best way forward -- one sledgehammer blow at a time. Otherwise he'll fly/barge in lots of troops and stalemate you -- lots of Iwo's out there unless you can break the impasse.

I'd give up on the gambles -- they have caused you lots of grief so far in this game. Just go slow and steady.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/24/2007 6:17:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well landing at Manila should help reduce Clark quicker even if I dont take manila no supplies will get through so although its a small risk its a huge one all it takes is one base out of the three to fall and it becomes difficult for PZB to hold on if I have the PI and can ship in supplies with 2 big bases both non malaria I can rest my troops and then properly plan my next move repair my ships basically get the whole fleet ready to go after my troops and ships are properly rested.

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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/26/2007 1:58:44 AM   
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RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/27/2007 1:17:06 PM   
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OK I don't have the combat replay but the highlights are

For the risk I am taking over Tokyo it aint worth it I had an anemic bombardment of Tokyo and my carriers did minimal damage no matter what I do I cannot cripple Japanese industry or even really damage it.

I am going to withdraw and leave it all behind.

In PI I have landed a strong force at Manila and its almost empty c 150 AV max PZB has left his rear uncovered !!!

I hope I can take it tomorrow - all my air in the PI will concentrate on Manila if I take it that is a huge prize - big mistake by PZB. If I take manila thats a level 9 port and a lvl 6 AF and it should allow me to finish off Clark Field and Liguyen reasonably quickly.

I will then concentrate all my forces in the PI (excl  1 Aus Corps in India ABDA Corps watching SEA and XXIV Corps on Iwo.

I will allow them to rest and refit in Manila and Clark while I ship in supplies, base forces and fuel and repair my ships - I dont like that I am in this position but the best option for me is to consolidate, finish off Luzon and rest my forces while resupplying Luzon as my main base of operations for future ops.

If I concentrate all 4 of my Armies on Luzon and pull in ancilliary forces it will give me a breather time to build preparation levels for future ops and rest those tired soldiers.

Andy


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Post #: 2308
RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 9/30/2007 3:33:02 PM   
Andy Mac

 

Posts: 15222
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PZB has his own issues turns out HA class subs wont produce...

With the fall of Manila I am reconcentrating forces in Luzon and I am going to continue to concentrate.

The Battle over Tokyo is accepted to be lost and no more risky attacks will be sanctioned instead these forces will attack Bonins to clear a path for my transport convoys bringing supply and fuel into Luzon

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/13/45
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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1058
TF 1058 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Empire Ranger
DD Hudson
DD Healy


Allied ground losses:
270 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1077
TF 1077 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LST LST-882, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1097
TF 1097 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1118
TF 1118 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


28 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Massey

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
593 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Lingayen, at 44,50

Allied Ships
CL Vicksburg
CL Wilkes-Barre
BB New York
BB Richelieu,  heavy damage
BB North Carolina,  heavy damage
BB California
BB Maryland,  heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
502 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Runway hits 2
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Manila, at 43,52

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CA Shropshire
CL Mobile
CL Concord
CL Tromp
CA Alaska
CA St. Paul
CA Tuscaloosa
CA Minneapolis
BB Wisconsin

Japanese ground losses:
641 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 26
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 1

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1058
TF 1058 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Healy
DD Hopewell
DD Ingersoll


Allied ground losses:
250 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Colombo, 14,24, firing at TF 1083
TF 1083 troops unloading over beach at Colombo, 14,24


2397 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Gatling, Shell hits 6,  on fire
LST LST-468, Shell hits 13,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Cape Bon
LCI(G) LCI(G)-464, Shell hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Fullam, Shell hits 18,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-589, Shell hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Albert Grant, Shell hits 12,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-583, Shell hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI(G) LCI(G)-463, Shell hits 16,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI(G) LCI(G)-465, Shell hits 16,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-549, Shell hits 2,  on fire
LCI LCI-536, Shell hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-533, Shell hits 14,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI(G) LCI(G)-468, Shell hits 9,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI(G) LCI(G)-467, Shell hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-527, Shell hits 14,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCI LCI-526, Shell hits 21,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Haggard, Shell hits 2,  on fire
LCI(G) LCI(G)-466, Shell hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Irwin, Shell hits 6,  on fire
LSM LSM-17, Shell hits 20,  on fire,  heavy damage
LSM LSM-15, Shell hits 19,  on fire,  heavy damage
LSM LSM-14, Shell hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 5,  on fire
LSM LSM-11, Shell hits 31,  on fire,  heavy damage
LST LST-170, Shell hits 7,  on fire,  heavy damage
DE Stadtfeld, Shell hits 6
LSD Belle Grove, Shell hits 1
LSV Monitor, Shell hits 15,  on fire,  heavy damage
DE Seid
AP Hendry, Shell hits 7,  on fire

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1643 casualties reported
Guns lost 36
Vehicles lost 35

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1097
TF 1097 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52



Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Manila, 43,52, firing at TF 1118
TF 1118 troops unloading over beach at Manila, 43,52


2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
217 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
3 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
3 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 35
J7W Shinden x 15
Ki-100 Tony x 11
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 42
F4U-1D Corsair x 36
SB2C Helldiver x 10
TBM Avenger x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 34 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-100 Tony: 13 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 24 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 15 destroyed, 4 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Shinano Maru, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 14
J7W Shinden x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 2 damaged
J7W Shinden: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Krung Thep , at 29,39


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Krung Thep , at 29,39


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52


Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 7
B-24J Liberator x 13
B-29 Superfortress x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported

Port hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Reppu x 9
J7W Shinden x 5
A6M5c Zeke x 3

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 71

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
J7W Shinden: 5 damaged
A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 65

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 4th AF Construction Battalion, at 43,52


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 5


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 58,23

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 22
B7A Grace x 32

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
14 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
18 x B7A Grace bombing at 9000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,39


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7
A-26B Invader x 3


Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
7 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 105th/B Division, at 44,50


Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 14
P-40N Warhawk x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Kittyhawk III bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
2 x F4U-1 Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
8 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 72nd Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 29,39


Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 3


Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 16th Mixed/A Brigade, at 43,52


Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 121
F6F Hellcat x 66
F4U-1D Corsair x 78
SB2C Helldiver x 13
TBM Avenger x 87


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
10 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
15 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
9 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
10 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
5 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
4 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
2 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
2 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
1 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
1 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
1 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Mixed/A Brigade, at 43,52


Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
9 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Mixed/A Brigade, at 43,52


Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 51


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
30 x A-26B Invader bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Colombo at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 17
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed


Allied Ships
CA Canberra, Kamikaze hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF, near Yanam at 22,21

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
G4M2 Betty x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 13
P-38J Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Callaway
DD Foote
LCI(G) LCI(G)-366

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Colombo at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 17
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed


Allied Ships
LSV Catskill

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 16
A-26B Invader x 9


Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-26B Invader attacking at 100 feet
3 x A-26B Invader attacking at 100 feet
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Naval bombardment of Colombo, at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
J7W Shinden: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Shinano Maru, Shell hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Hugh W. Hadley
CA Detroit
CA Canberra
CA Houston
CA Chicago

Japanese ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 25
Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 2


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11554 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 411

Defending force 137593 troops, 1339 guns, 639 vehicles, Assault Value = 3075



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 101371 troops, 1054 guns, 604 vehicles, Assault Value = 3075

Defending force 28512 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 411

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied max assault: 4506 - adjusted assault: 2520

Japanese max defense: 364 - adjusted defense: 409

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Manila base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
1793 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Allied ground losses:
556 casualties reported
Guns lost 36
Vehicles lost 5


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Colombo

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 720 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Defending force 10613 troops, 101 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 347



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

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118th IJNAF Base Force Wiped Out at Andaman Island by attrition!!!

(in reply to Andy Mac)
Post #: 2309
RE: Operation Tokyo Rose Must DIE - 10/5/2007 2:09:45 PM   
Andy Mac

 

Posts: 15222
Joined: 5/12/2004
From: Alexandria, Scotland
Status: offline 		Sorry guys been a little distracted over the last few days so not been updating.

OK Sitrep

INDIAN FRONT

Allied carriers are all damaged after heavy Japanese raids.

CINC India made a mistake in landing at Colombo as the terrain is to much to overcome when tied to lvl 9 forts.

Lvl 9 forts are x 4 Def Value, x 2 for rough terrain so thats x 8 to defenders - even a BF can hold off a combat Div in those circumstances.

A subsidiary landing at Trincomalee is proceeding instead and we have high hopes as it is flat terrain so I only need to overcome the x4 from forts.

(The combination of forts and terrain make some bases almost impregnable - e.g Iwo, Okinawa, Saipan - if properly defended with lv 9 forts (x4) and Mountain terrain (x3) the base AV is x12 for the defenders which means to get a 2 : 1 against a single Div the allies need to bring 24 Divs ) and even if out of supply thats a base x 3 (x6 for 2:1)

MALAYSIAN/SEA FRONT

All quiet no action planned on this front.

1st Aus Army is transferring to CENTPAC

CENTPAC

PI offensive is starting to pick up steam with the veterans of 1st Aus Army arriving at Manila and the supply route to 6th US Army at Clark reopened we have high hopes of finishing off Clark after which the Luzon campaign is a mopping up campagn while troops prepare for next steps

NORPAC

24th US Corps on Iwo is held up but holding

5th Fleet has been actively suppressing the Bonins to allow passage of 1.5m tonnes of war supplies heading for Luzon - Luzon will be transferred into the arsenal for the coming operations.

OTHER THEATRES

Dead as a dodo no activity by either side.

Basically after I finish off resistance on luzon and get my 4 Armies aligned and ready I will need to consider next steps.

If we assume mopping up will take unitil Sept 45 I need to decide on next steps which IMO need to be a Fighter AF in range of the HI or the HI themselves...

Assuming all 4 combat armies are rested and concentrated where do I go - its going to be a tricky question....

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