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Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:03:09 AM   
Tom Hunter


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Status: offline 		First translate it into Chinese

Then sell everyone in China a copy for one cent.

Bingo $1.3 million dollars and over a billion opponents for WitP PBEM!

Hey it's just as clever as any of the other price cut suggestions.

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:11:53 AM   
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Hey it's just as clever as any of the other price cut suggestions.


I'd have to agree with you there...

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:23:24 AM   
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The only problem of this game!!

There is a person who is hesitating also for the Japanese to buy this problem,
too.



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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:38:30 AM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:44:57 AM   
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Better make victory possible for China then, eh?


Ah. So.


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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:51:45 AM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 8:20:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Hunter

First translate it into Chinese

Then sell everyone in China a copy for one cent.

Bingo $1.3 million dollars and over a billion opponents for WitP PBEM!

Hey it's just as clever as any of the other price cut suggestions.




Actually, it works out to 13 million dollars. That makes it an even better idea.

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 8:25:55 AM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 9:12:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		The problem is that cutting the price to a penny does not guarantee you sell it to any Chinese people anyway.

This is basic econ 101 stuff. When you have a product that has basically zero marginal costs, then your goal is to maximize revenue, pure and simple. You would rather sell 10 at $50 than 7 at $70. Ideally, you simply find the peak of the price/sales curve and price right there.

Of course, it is hard to know where that peak is, and what you REALLY want is for everyone who WILL pay $70 to pay $70, and everyone who will only pay $60 to pay that, and everyone who will only pay $50 to pay that, etc., etc. That is why there are things like "matinees" and "early bird specials" and sales. That is even MORE true for something like WitP. Which is why a graduated cost structure is a good idea, at least in theory. Of cours,e there are other factors involved (if people know it will get cheaper, they might wait and then end up not buying at all, value of continuing support, other products you are selling, perceptions, etc.)

So selling it for $.01 might get you lots of sales, but it is only worthwhile if it gets you enough to make up for the loss in per sales revenue, and at that price even the trivial marginal costs having to do with bandwidth and such becomes a factor.

So no, your suggestion is not really "just as clever". That doesn't mean a price cut is a good idea of course. But apparently it isn't a terrible one, since they just did exactly that...

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 2:05:17 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 2:07:16 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 2:54:09 PM   
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Don't forget Africa either. A huge potential of future players there.

P.S. Need to install electricity to some places first

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 2:55:08 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 2:57:10 PM   
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Electricity is the way forward. Sh*t I forgot need to develop the wheel first

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:00:42 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:09:15 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:09:56 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:23:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		For a penny, at least you wouldn't have to worry about competition from the software pirates.

Arrrgh!

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:33:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course the next 'improvement' would be the installation of a despot to 'govern' the place (namely me)...actually crap that exists already in many parts of Africa. Hmm the tech tree appears to be knackered

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:35:57 PM   
fabertong


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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:42:05 PM   
Speedysteve

 

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First there was man
Then there was the wheel
Then the man used the wheel to make cool stuff
The man (me) became popular with the locals
The man decided to rule the peons
Despotism was created
Next day he invented electricity generation
Within 2 hours 12 minutes the PC had been thought of
Within 3 years and 4 months WiTP had been thought of and implemented.
21 years later the campaign is still ongoing

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:47:28 PM   
fabertong


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First there was the kite...
the kite flew high in the air....
it fell to the ground.....
causing the creation of man....
Women were created later that same day when a beetroot fell from the sky.....or maybe an apple...it's one of those laws of physics......
You know Isaac whatsisname.........
Electricity came later....
followed by the TV dinner.....
WitP is the result of millions of years of evolution
You know Charles whatsisname......


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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:54:17 PM   
Speedysteve

 

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I suppose Genesis could the creation of the IJN.

By the way your tech tree is wrong. Have you played Civ?!?

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:57:33 PM   
fabertong


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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 3:59:04 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 4:02:06 PM   
fabertong


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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 5:21:20 PM   
Tom Hunter


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ORIGINAL: Berkut

The problem is that cutting the price to a penny does not guarantee you sell it to any Chinese people anyway.

This is basic econ 101 stuff. When you have a product that has basically zero marginal costs, then your goal is to maximize revenue, pure and simple. You would rather sell 10 at $50 than 7 at $70. Ideally, you simply find the peak of the price/sales curve and price right there.

Of course, it is hard to know where that peak is, and what you REALLY want is for everyone who WILL pay $70 to pay $70, and everyone who will only pay $60 to pay that, and everyone who will only pay $50 to pay that, etc., etc. That is why there are things like "matinees" and "early bird specials" and sales. That is even MORE true for something like WitP. Which is why a graduated cost structure is a good idea, at least in theory. Of cours,e there are other factors involved (if people know it will get cheaper, they might wait and then end up not buying at all, value of continuing support, other products you are selling, perceptions, etc.)

So selling it for $.01 might get you lots of sales, but it is only worthwhile if it gets you enough to make up for the loss in per sales revenue, and at that price even the trivial marginal costs having to do with bandwidth and such becomes a factor.

So no, your suggestion is not really "just as clever". That doesn't mean a price cut is a good idea of course. But apparently it isn't a terrible one, since they just did exactly that...



"He was joking..." Terminus

NO! NO! I was not joking. I am completly serious and Berkut has no idea what he is talking about my ideas are just better, and anyone with a differing opinion is just WRONG

Going back into relatively serious mode, I am amazed at the response this got. Berkut, I am a very litteral guy, so I know what I am talking about when I say this: You are too litteral, you need to relax.

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 5:31:10 PM   
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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 6:22:19 PM   
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He was joking...


I know

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RE: Reduce the price of WitP to .01$ - 11/29/2005 6:40:36 PM   
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Going back into relatively serious mode, I am amazed at the response this got. Berkut, I am a very litteral guy, so I know what I am talking about when I say this: You are too litteral, you need to relax.


Actually, what I *really* need is for my PBEM opponenets to send me back a turn more than once a week...

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