Nemo121
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Terminus, If you read my post you'll see two attacks on the BASE of Suchan by a kamikaze unit. I included the combat report of this to illustrate the point. Also PzB has had this happen in his game.... Well, I've made my AI vs AI game a head to head game for a few turns during an Allied CV raid to test kamis... My findings are as follows: 1. Kamis still attack ground targets. 2. Transports cannot be turned into kamis by humans BUT the AI can create them. When created by the AI they can still fly troop transport and later be used as kamis. When they are used as kamis they do get hits and those hits are pretty devastating because of their high max load. 3. What is really weird is that patrols can be turned into kamis AND so can the transport versions of the Mavis and Emily. One can also turn recons into kamis even though they are usually useless because they have a load of zero. 4. If you label the transports as patrols they can transport supplies, be turned into kamis. Not sure about transporting troops but will check that out. 5. High-altitude kami attacks do seem to experience a drop in accuracy vs low-altitude attacks. I've been sending in Oscars at 35000 feet and Zekes and bombers at 6000 feet and the Oscars hit significantly less often. And for examples: End- July 44. About a dozen Allied CVs and CVLs are supporting an amphibious invasion of Tinian. I rushed about 1200 kamis into Pagan and sent them at the Allied CVs over the course of 4 days. I exchanged the 1200 planes for 3 CVs and 2 CVLs. Not great but not too bad either... Day Air attack on TF at 65,60 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 36 G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 4 G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 13 Ki-43-II Oscar x 75 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 12 F6F-5 Hellcat x 48 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 31 destroyed G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 4 destroyed G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 13 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 75 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 3 damaged F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied Ships CV Intrepid CA Portland CLAA Jacob Van Heemskerck CVL Cowpens, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire CVL Bataan CV Victorious CA Baltimore DD Rowe CVL Belleau Wood -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Rangoon [Burma] at 29,33 Japanese aircraft L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby x 12 Japanese aircraft losses L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby: 12 destroyed Allied Ships AP Empire Tamar AP Talma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 65,60 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 19 G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 12 G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 3 Ki-43-II Oscar x 50 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 12 F6F-5 Hellcat x 46 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 16 destroyed G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 12 destroyed G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 3 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 50 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 2 damaged F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 damaged Allied Ships CV Bon Homme Richard, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CV Saratoga, Kamikaze hits 5, on fire, heavy damage CV Essex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 65,60 Japanese aircraft Me-264/G9M1 Marlina x 9 L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby x 12 Ki-44IIa Tojo x 4 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 12 F6F-5 Hellcat x 44 Japanese aircraft losses Me-264/G9M1 Marlina: 9 destroyed L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby: 12 destroyed Ki-44IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 1 damaged F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships CV Bon Homme Richard, on fire, heavy damage CV Saratoga, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CV Essex, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 67,67 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 6 G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 7 Ki-43-II Oscar x 15 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 6 destroyed G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 7 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 15 destroyed Allied Ships CA Minneapolis, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Indianapolis, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire CA Houston CL Richmond, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire CL Detroit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 67,67 Japanese aircraft Me-264/G9M1 Marlina x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Me-264/G9M1 Marlina: 3 destroyed Allied Ships CA Suffolk, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 16 G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 2 G4M1/Ki-50 Betty x 4 Ki-43-II Oscar x 10 Ki-44IIa Tojo x 39 Me-109E-4 Mike x 42 Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 9 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 12 F6F-5 Hellcat x 44 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 11 destroyed G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 2 destroyed G4M1/Ki-50 Betty: 4 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 10 destroyed Ki-44IIa Tojo: 21 destroyed Me-109E-4 Mike: 27 destroyed Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 9 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 4 destroyed F6F-5 Hellcat: 16 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CV Intrepid, Kamikaze hits 2 CVL Wilmington CV Victorious CVL Belleau Wood, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CVL Bataan, Kamikaze hits 5, on fire, heavy damage CVL Cowpens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 17 B6N2 Jill x 9 L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby x 42 Ki-43-II Oscar x 2 Ki-44IIa Tojo x 35 Me-109E-4 Mike x 6 Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann x 6 Ki-21-II Sally x 8 Ki-34/59/L1N1 Thora x 23 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 8 F6F-5 Hellcat x 28 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged L2D2/Ki-92 Tabby: 42 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-44IIa Tojo: 30 destroyed Me-109E-4 Mike: 4 destroyed Ki-32/30 Mary/Ann: 6 destroyed Ki-21-II Sally: 8 destroyed Ki-34/59/L1N1 Thora: 23 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F-5 Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 12, on fire, heavy damage CV Bunker Hill, Torpedo hits 2, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft G3M2/Ki-42 Nell x 6 Me-264/G9M1 Marlina x 3 Ki-43-II Oscar x 94 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 7 F6F-5 Hellcat x 15 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2/Ki-42 Nell: 6 destroyed Me-264/G9M1 Marlina: 3 destroyed Ki-43-II Oscar: 63 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wildcat/Martlet IV: 1 damaged Allied Ships CV Lexington, Kamikaze hits 7, on fire, heavy damage CV Bunker Hill, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-II Oscar x 9 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 7 F6F-5 Hellcat x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-II Oscar: 9 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Bataan, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-II Oscar x 3 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 7 F6F-5 Hellcat x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-II Oscar: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 64,59 Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 23 Allied aircraft Wildcat/Martlet IV x 7 F6F-5 Hellcat x 15 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 23 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Bunker Hill, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire That's 2 days worths of attacks... Needless to say the strikes didn't stop the amphibious assault at all. Looks like even the AI can complete an amphibious invasion in 44 against pretty much the best the Japanese can send against them... Obviously a human vs human game would allow better strategic planning etc but on a purely tactical level the Allied superiority in 44 seems to be preserved in RHS EOS, although reduced when compared to stock.
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