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ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 7:28:58 AM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Right, so we are now:

Uxbridge (Sweden)
Gwgardner (USA)
cpdeyoung (USA)
Harbinger (USA)
Hairog (USA)
Flaviusx (???)

Seems everyone but me, and maybe Flaviusx, are Americans. This is a bit of a problem. Normally it will work fine, but during weekends, when there's a good chance of a more intensified play for most concerned, we'll have a huge time lag, forbidding more than a few turns anyway.

Therefore, maybe we should wait and see if we can get together at least two teams, one consisting of Americans and one of Europeans.

Anybody with an interest, please say so. State where you're from.



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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 10:50:50 AM   
Flaviusx


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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 10:58:21 AM   
keensy52

 

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Status: offline 		Hi

Just got the game but im up for PBEM.
Im In UK

Keensy

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 11:19:58 PM   
Tomokatu


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Status: offline 		Well, I'm in East Coast Australia (timezone UTC-10 hours) and I'm in a V1.5 pbem with a Quebecian (Kaybecker?). The time difference means that we get max four gameturns on a weekend (His Sunday, my Monday) but that's usually OK because he has a wife & family.
It's not a continuous process by any means, but it CAN work. Don't know how well it would go with a third player but it's my first ever pbem so I'm happy to be a bit slow.

So far, we're up to GameTurn 71. Took a long time to chase France and England out of Europe. The AI SovUnion attacked Bulgaria in October 40 and I stopped them at the gates of Koenigsburg. (This should probably go in the AARs, so I'll stop there.)

I hasten to add I'm not angling to join up, just sharing my experience about timeshifting (and frankly, wanting to establish that there's another continent to be considered, apart from America and Europe.)

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 11:21:46 PM   
Tomokatu


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Status: offline 		Should have said "on a weekend day" - we get more than four turns in over the whole weekend! Sometimes three on a weekday, too.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 11:43:10 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Why, two players are rather okay. I played a test with GW some week ago and that was no problem.

But we're aiming at six players. Since Flaviusx is also an American, it wouldn't be much of a problem with me being in Europe, though. I can play while the yanks sleep. But with two Europeans, we had to have the turns "next" to each other.

And now we also have Keensy. Let's see if anybody more shows up.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/29/2009 11:47:56 PM   
edelweiss75


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Status: offline 		If there is room, i can give a shot at this new mod.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/30/2009 7:17:20 AM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Where are you from, Edelweiss?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/30/2009 1:49:22 PM   
edelweiss75


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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/30/2009 10:58:38 PM   
Hairog


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Let me know what to do.

I'm in the US and haven't played a PBEM for ages but I'm up for this one.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/30/2009 11:16:52 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Don't do anything as yet. Let's see how many we can get.

Now we have:

Uxbridge (Sweden)
Gwgardner (USA)
cpdeyoung (USA)
Harbinger (USA)
Hairog (USA)
Flaviusx (USA)
Keensey52 (UK)
Edelweis (Canada)

I've been thinking more about it and it strikes me that 5 players probably is the best solution. Thus it would be:

Germany
Italy and Axis minors
UK
USSR
France/USA

Having different players for France and USA leads to one going out early and the other coming in late. Might just as well be the same player. If so, we only need two more to have two teams. I can probably provide a second Swede.

But first we need some help with the Flaviusx-crash.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/31/2009 9:20:55 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		17russia just signed in using private messages, so now we're nine players.

What do you others say about two 5-player teams as above?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 10/31/2009 10:45:30 PM   
keensy52

 

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Status: offline 		sounds good to me!

can i have a go at being germany?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 12:47:51 AM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		We have to choose the setting with some care. What we have as yet is:

Uxbridge (Sweden) no preference yet
Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
cpdeyoung (USA) no preference yet
Harbinger (USA) prefers Italy or France/USA
Hairog (USA) prefers Italy or France/USA
Flaviusx (USA) prefers USSR
Keensey52 (UK) prefers Germany
Edelweis (Canada) no preference yet
17russia (USA) no preference yet (but we may have an incling)

Some of the names here are well known to me. Others are more obscure. It would be nice to have a hint of how familiar you are with this or other similar games. It would likewise be of interest how old you are and what in general is your occupation. I myself am 49, Swede, and a military writer and salesman (Photographics). I have played games since the early eighties, from board games to the present computer games. How about you, guys?




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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 1:06:27 AM   
edelweiss75


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Status: offline 		Am 34, i live in Québec city.Am a CNC metal brake operator.I have been playing wargames for 20 years, learn it from playing Axis&Allies boardgame.

I would like to play Great Britain.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 1:54:28 AM   
Hairog


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Status: offline 		I'll play Italy and the smaller axis countries.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 2:09:12 AM   
cpdeyoung


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From: South Carolina, USA
Status: offline 		I am 64, still programming computers, but looking toward retirement. I have been playing wargames since about 1960. I came into RtV and ToW from exposure to RtV when playing John Tiller's Campaign Series, and have been happy with the product from the beginning. I have done AARs, and tested the games, for quite awhile.

I am flexible on nations, but if I can have France, (Benelux), USA then I will play them. I think the Benelux nations need a human lest they go down too fast.

Chuck

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 8:07:24 AM   
keensy52

 

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Status: offline 		hi

Im 33  a teacher. played several war games but not really PBEM- new to tis game.
keensy

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 9:43:47 AM   
Uxbridge


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I think I can add Mille, the tenth player, without having consulted him yet. He's a Swede too. Personally I rather have UK this time (haven't played that for a while) and then it will be smart to let Mille be France/USA, placing our turns next to each other, reducing "lag" in the first 50 game turns. We have to play in the same group, of course.

Thus we have:

Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) prefers Italy or France/USA
Hairog (USA) Italy
Flaviusx (USA) prefers USSR
Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Edelweis (Canada) UK
17russia (USA) no preference yet
Mille (Sweden) France/USA

Out of this we could form a first group. It would thus be:

Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Mille (Sweden) France/USA
Flaviusx (USA) USSR
Hairog (USA) Italy/Axis minors

This is good, since the game will be rather well spread between USA and Europe, reducing unnecessary time loss. Let's fix this setting for the moment.

Even the second group should thus be ready, lest GW and 17, which haven't choosen their roles yet. It does point sharply towards GW being Uncle Adolph, though. This group will be (almost) all American.

Edelweis (Canada) UK
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) Italy/Axis minors

Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
17russia (USA) no preference yet



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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 10:33:00 AM   
Uxbridge


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ORIGINAL: cpdeyoung

I think the Benelux nations need a human lest they go down too fast.

Chuck


You're right regarding the neutrals. It will be much more interesting if they're controlled to some extent. I think I have a solution for them as well as the problem with player 3 controling both France and USA (thus creating 6 turns).

When UK start his turn, he use F11 to access "cheats". There he deduct 3000 PP from USA, Belgium and Netherlands. This way he prevents the AI from doing anything particulary stupid with these nations. They are then left to the AI. Once in a while, though, the UK player uses the F11 key at the beginning of the UK turn to activate B and N for movements. When these countries are due, the turn will head back to the UK player and he can add 3000 PPs, buy whatever he opt for (he still needs to keep at least 3000 PPs in the account), moving desired units, and then deduct 3000 PPs again. In the next UK turn the AI is switched back on. I think we could do this once every third month.

Regarding USA, the French player does the same as the UK player above, buying units, adding research, and then switch back to the AI again in his forthcoming French turn. Once France is out of the game, the French player switch over to USA for the duration of the game. The only problem I can see with USA is Lend Lease. But maybe we can just let the USA player move a token of PPs by using F11. Not really top notch, but better than having 6 instead of 5 phases each game turn. We could have a 20 % penalty to simulate Atlantic losses.

Suggestions?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 11:57:17 AM   
Mille66

 

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Status: offline 		Sounds great!

Cant wait to start, so hurry up.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 2:52:13 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		As soon as everyone "signs in", I think we can start.

We need somewhere to talk. I don't think Matrix would be overly happy about us using the forum for all the private chat that may result of the game, and therefore suggest that I put up a secret forum on my own website. There we can speak privately about everything going on in our game without the rest of the world listening in.

How do you feel about that?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 3:03:18 PM   
Flaviusx


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Status: offline 		Surprised nobody else likes playing the commies, but that suits me fine. I'll go ahead and update ETO to incorporate the bug fixes.

Edit: I assume all the house rules stated in your ETO thread are in effect?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 4:44:30 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		The home rules should be in effect, but please tell me if you have any further suggestions.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 5:11:19 PM   
keensy52

 

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Status: offline 		Sounds good mate!!

what is your website address?
keensy

#Who starts ?

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 5:19:04 PM   
Uxbridge


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But I will only create the forum when I have the consent of all players.

If we are all in agreement regarding set-up and everything else, the two German players will have to make the set-up and begin.

But not yet!

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 7:36:12 PM   
Harbinger


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Status: offline 		Heyo..sorry was afk for a coupla days. USA Eastern time zone. Currently unemployed truck driver, I've played wargames since the early 90's.

I'm not picky about which power I play. Italy is fine.

Holler at me when we're ready.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 7:54:24 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Ok, Harbinger. Italy and minors it is.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 7:55:40 PM   
17russia

 

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ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

Ok.

I think I can add Mille, the tenth player, without having consulted him yet. He's a Swede too. Personally I rather have UK this time (haven't played that for a while) and then it will be smart to let Mille be France/USA, placing our turns next to each other, reducing "lag" in the first 50 game turns. We have to play in the same group, of course.

Thus we have:

Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) prefers Italy or France/USA
Hairog (USA) Italy
Flaviusx (USA) prefers USSR
Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Edelweis (Canada) UK
17russia (USA) no preference yet
Mille (Sweden) France/USA

Out of this we could form a first group. It would thus be:

Keensey52 (UK) Germany
Uxbridge (Sweden) UK
Mille (Sweden) France/USA
Flaviusx (USA) USSR
Hairog (USA) Italy/Axis minors

This is good, since the game will be rather well spread between USA and Europe, reducing unnecessary time loss. Let's fix this setting for the moment.

Even the second group should thus be ready, lest GW and 17, which haven't choosen their roles yet. It does point sharply towards GW being Uncle Adolph, though. This group will be (almost) all American.

Edelweis (Canada) UK
cpdeyoung (USA) France/USA
Harbinger (USA) Italy/Axis minors

Gwgardner (USA) no preference yet
17russia (USA) no preference yet




17russia, here.
I will take anything you leave on the table. I am in the US but part of my Job entails training 16 groups of people located from Perth to Cairo. Not married or kids. So I keep international & US hours and work mostly from home. I can play anything from an agressive Germany, Italy that loves Iraq, Soviets that build walls to a US that loves sunny France. Not used to PBEM but I can follow directions.

PS;
With this many people we could split Italy & the Axis minors apart. Once Rumania & Hungry get a little SMP & some money they can be very effective.

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RE: ETO - PBEM games - 11/1/2009 9:29:01 PM   
Uxbridge


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Status: offline 		Once the first two groups get started, there's nothing to prevent building of secondary games, with different player settings or even up to 8 players.

17Russia, GW seems to be out of town. You might therefore have the first pick: USSR or Germany.

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