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No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 5:38:03 PM

MuguNiner

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I have had this air group in Townsville for quite some time without receiving any replacement AC. Same for the other air groups there. What have I not done to provide?

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 5:41:44 PM

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Upgrade to a newer model.

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 5:57:26 PM

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The pool is empty, so where should the planes come from ?

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 5:59:35 PM

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Oh. Knew it had to be something simple.
Thanks

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 9:54:00 PM

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Yep, you get very few LB-30s. I use them as a USAAF stop gap until the Navy B-24s recon planes (PB4Ys) arrive in Dec 42.

My recollection is enough for about two sqdns. Then use sparingly (avoid extreme range recons when you can, keep a high maint. level (30%), don't be tempted to use on bombing runs, etc., to keep them flying into '43 and the arrival of the PB4Ys.

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 10:08:36 PM

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The LB-30 was the export version of the B-24A that were taken from a British order and pressed into service with the USAAF not the USN. Though you are right the LB-30 production numbers are very small and only for a short time in early 1942. Once production ends, you get no more of them.

The first PB4Y-1s were B-24Ds transferred to the USN in part of a deal with the USAAF that canceled a Boeing flying boat that was being built in Renton, WA. Boeing only built something like 2 or 3 before the program was canceled. The factory built for the flying boat was instead used to build B-29s.

Boeing still uses the same factory to build 737s and 757s, though the current factory buildings are port war (built for the C-135/707 I believe). The old factory buildings are now used for other things. I worked in one of them when I was working for Boeing at Renton.

The Navy was a bit reluctant with their PB4Ys to start, but soon discovered they made excellent patrol bombers, though they required a well developed runway where the PBY didn't. Fortunately innovations in airfield construction made this pretty easy.

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RE: No AC Replacements - 6/1/2014 10:15:48 PM

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Thanks Bill! Always nice to learn a new historical tid-bit! Did not mean to imply the LBs were USN...even though they are USAAF units I chose to use them in the recon/nav search role to supplement the early PBYs. Not enough to make a big splash as LBs and their arrival is at a critical time when a crafty AFB is looking for every piece of intel they can get on KB and other IJ TFs.... Kevin

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