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Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 12:45:32 PM

Bison Frontier

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Say I divide an infantry division into regiments A, B and C. If regiments B and C get completely destroyed, will A slowly rebuild back to the full division?

What if A and B are destroyed, and only C is left? Will C rebuild too?

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 1:05:59 PM

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No.

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 1:14:29 PM

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No to both cases? So basically if you divide a unit and part gets destroyed, it's gone forever?

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 1:36:24 PM

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That is correct.

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 4:15:17 PM

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No to both cases? So basically if you divide a unit and part gets destroyed, it's gone forever?

you will only get it back (perhaps) if you save a fragment. Though even if you save a fragment it�s not always sure it will rebuild - for what reason ever. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don�t. I even have the fragments suddenly becoming ghost units after unloading from ships, which means the whole unit is lost...

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/30/2007 11:14:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Rybeck

No to both cases? So basically if you divide a unit and part gets destroyed, it's gone forever?

you will only get it back (perhaps) if you save a fragment. Though even if you save a fragment it�s not always sure it will rebuild - for what reason ever. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don�t. I even have the fragments suddenly becoming ghost units after unloading from ships, which means the whole unit is lost...

Most of these problems went away for me when I upgraded (1.8 I think).

It is a little counter intuitive that if a regiment is lost from a division that it won't eventually be rebuilt. Im not sure that should be the case.

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/31/2007 12:41:14 AM

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If a parent unit dies from attrition, the fragment will not reform.

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/31/2007 1:10:43 AM

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Note, per my post in the other similar thread that fragments and divided pieces are different.

Regarding fragments, there is a concept in the code where if the parent is destroyed a new fragment will be selected to become the new parent. Well actually it is more complicated than that but this is one way of looking at it "functionally". But it was (and probably still is) not always the case that this would happen. Sometimes where a parent was destroyed there was no swap. It is impossible to say whether or not this is/was intended. But generally we have gone with the theory that there should always be a parent swap if the parent is destroyed. I think I have personally tracked down (and fixed) about 6 different situations in there was no swap happening. I doubt we've nailed them all, but we've probably nailed the higher frequency ones.

So at least according to current theory, there should always be a parent of course except when you divide the unit. In this case the parent is removed from play and placed into an "off map holding box" and the parent only returns when you recombine the unit. Hence in this case, if you lose one of the divided pieces, you will be unable to reform the unit and the parent will remain off map.

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RE: Dividing and rebuilding ground units - 7/31/2007 2:31:48 AM

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Regarding fragments, there is a concept in the code where if the parent is destroyed a new fragment will be selected to become the new parent.

This is what I have seen happen on a fairly regular basis since upgrading. Even small fragments can rebuild a unit. I won't go so far as to say it ALWAYS happens, but it seems to happen more times than not. However, I still have several unit fragments from before the patch...some are ghost fragments.

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