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Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ s... - 12/7/2013 3:23:16 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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Status: offline 		Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance!



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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 4:22:17 PM   
Zorachus99


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Status: offline 		You are doubled in Swamp and Mountain hexes for example.

Mountain units are tripled in defense in mountain hexes.

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 7:52:54 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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thanks!

Sadly enough - no swamps or mountains in Belgium. Itīs a clear hex.

That wonīt do the trick. Furthermore thereīs the stacking thing.

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 7:54:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thankīs in advance!



Are the potential attackers across a river?

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:03:02 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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Iīd have to look, but across a river would be attacker halved - not the other way around - I guess.

And the stacking thing doesnīt make sense any way you look at it. I just closed the tutorial, but I recall Steve explicitly saying " the hex contains 4 units " and something in the way of - no air units.

A puzzle...

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:06:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance!


warspite1

Where (what time) does this appear in the tutorial - I'd like to take a look, see if I can help. What is it that makes you think there are no aircraft in the stack?


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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:13:41 PM   
paulderynck


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Status: offline 		Good point on the river, my bad. OK how about anti-tank or AA units that are doubled against potential Armor/Mech units? (C'mon I'm dyin' here - throw me a bone! )

Of maybe the Tutorial was done back when there was some kind of a bug in the game that since has been eradicated. Some of them were done quite awhile ago.

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:17:39 PM   
michaelbaldur


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maybe a captured convoy


and one of the land units in the hex is disrupted, so 7 attack/14 defence

< Message edited by michaelbaldur -- 12/7/2013 9:22:25 PM >

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:20:13 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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I put it in the header but now I see that itīs not fully displayed.

Itīs 0:58:35 ff.

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:28:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Hi Warspite,

I put it in the header but now I see that itīs not fully displayed.

Itīs 0:58:35 ff.

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warspite1

Well that's clear! No aircraft and no ships.... paulderynck maybe right that this was done sometime ago and was not bug free when recorded. Or could it be a fort?


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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:28:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think Michael got it. A disorganized land unit is certain. Then it might be a disorganized naval or air unit.

Something like in this picture.




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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:34:07 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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I tried to work on the AA/ AT assumption too. Math doesnīt work out. Furthermore - as far as I can see - we are not in the land attack phase. Itīs general information about the hex ( I would think so - at least ).

Maybe a bug, maybe long gone... - but I am very careful here, after all the "bug reports" - a bug ... a bug ... - which turned out to be - oops didnīt quite have the rules present.

Going through MWIF Iīve stumbled across at least a dozen items ( some not small ) that I didnīt "get" in 20 years of wiffing - and I should have, knowing some guys who really know their way around the game.

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 8:45:20 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Michael (and Orm),

that makes sense - thanks!

No bug and I have not gone mad.

What a day!

Cheers


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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 9:05:09 PM   
michaelbaldur


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just ask me .. Mwif expert

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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 9:26:38 PM   
Kathi51!

 

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Status: offline 		Iīll take you up on that...

And mind you - there will be a lot of questions.

Setting up the hardware on monday...

But jokes aside - from all I see to this point - itīs a beauty isnīt it!!!


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RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDe... - 12/7/2013 10:43:02 PM   
michaelbaldur


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you just PM me with questions ..

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