Slitherine

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Originally posted by Drake666: Looking for someone to try this idea with. We both start a campaign and then we send the files to each other to be edited in the scenario editor. We change the AI force and setup and then send it back so we can each play the battle. This is repeated at the start of each battle. This way each battle will be deffrent and you will not have the AIs lame setup and deploy. Doing it this way I hope to play one campaign battle a day or more depinding. If anyone is up for it let me now.

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Originally posted by victorhauser: How do you keep the edited games linked to the campaign (for experience increases and repair/upgrades)?

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Originally posted by sjuncal: Interesting question. To edit them you have to rename the save to "scen" and put it into the scenario folder. I assume puting it back and renaming once again to save, would leave the basic campaign data within the save file untouched though the process. I could be totally wrong I haven't tried finishing the save I'm messing with at the moment. Anyone know if editing a campaign save like this strips out or fails to save campaign data? Or does it just leave it alone as I suspect it would? Just familiarized myself with the editor... could potentially do a lot of things to increase the AIP challenge... V-hex locations change deploy areas, give the AIP on defense some added terrain features, or maybe some more cover for AIP attack. Not to go overboard of course. and design scenarios, just beef up the existing situation... I'm curious if this could introduce buggyness? It would certainly solve any "no enemy" type bugs.

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Originally posted by sjuncal: heh, starts you out at turn 1 as well (I just edited the 6th turn of a battle that was to end at the end of the AIP's turn) added some stugs in and some flame panzers... This was the battle where it ended JUST as my Brit Commandos were about to be assaulted by some Gerry Spec Ops and rifles supported by a platoon of panzers, that I mentioned in a previous thread. Battle ended the same way just with a couple more knocked out Gerry tanks, and about a 4000 point vitory instead of 3000. got the normal campaign trappings. The save file came out of editing about 900k smaller which worried me, but no ill effects were observed. Why is this? I assume it stripped a lot of the previous turns info (VCR playback etc.) out of the save making it much smaller. This looks like a really good idea I suppose we should think of some agreeable guidlines... Like no editing each others core forces (I could see it now Lt. Drake666 leading my rangers all of a sudden. heh heh heh.). Maybe agreeing not to overly exploit specific flaws in the players force (no AA? heh he'll really dig 25 Stuka's) and such like... Simon

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Originally posted by Drake666: Yup it looks like I will be doing this with sjuncal if he is still up for it.

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Troop Type: Green, Adverage, Veterin or Elite Opponent: One country or a mix of two countries.

Okay here's what I'd like "GM'ing" (game mastering) my campaign to add: Force variety and mix as stated above. slightly less predictable V-hex locations, obviously I'll have already deployed so mass changes would be problematic but a little variety would be quite do-able. Fualty intel: that orchard/treeline/fence/etc. isn't supposed to be in the no mans land breaking up my perfect 16 hex wide killing field down the center of the map Don't change the basic battle type more then one increment (and in general leave it the way it is) occasionally make a defend a delay, a delay into a meeting engagment, and vice versa. Just for unpredictability. I'll have already gotten my support based on what general type of mission I'm facing. (wonder if there's any way to edit the battles so the player can re-deploy? Freds editor maybe?) On AIP defends, feel free to bolster their terrain, a gully or two, some (reasonable) fortifications... Don't want to slog through 3 or 4 gun casements, but a rifle pit, or an odd pillbox yes. Definitely surprise me with AIP setup. Question: in the scenario editor does setting an objective for a unit or formation, effect how the AI will use that unit? In other words if I set a recon unit to advance on an objective would it go there instead of detouring for the nearest V-hex? This alone could drastically improve the AI in campaigns. Does CC have to be on for this to work? I'm sure I'll think of more preferences... but think of them as preferences and not demands. Bottom line, I don't want either of us to feel put out, if we got something real life to do, then just plunk down the defualt force in a reasonable way, bolster it a touch and send it back. As far as mechanics of GM'ing go. The player should rename the files to whatever the GM will use (in my case scen000 replacing the tutorial so I don't have to scroll around to find it) and then rename it to saveXXX when he gets it back. Also should we zip the files?

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(in reply to Drake666)

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Originally posted by Tombstone: I'll do this with someone... Drake666 are you already paired up with the first person who asked? If not, I'll do it.. I'm pretty familiar with the editor, and the sytem you're talking about. Otherwise, I'll try it out with anyone else who wants to. Tomo