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1st carrier battle - 12/16/2005 4:29:45 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		Raver decided to hunt down my Batlleships or transports and sent CV force sneaking near landing site.
I had small KB (all small CVLs however CVE without a/c complement )
This TF was heavily oriented on Zero protection and I hunted for surface combat forces trying to disrupt langing.
Battle is a draw - similar losses in aircraft is favouring Raver but I damaged both his carriers. I'm very low on Kates - had 48 and lost half of them + many damaged - 15 operational now- looks like I need to withdraw

I'm really proud of my supply situation
I managed to build up many a/c factories as well as engines and many armament ones - supply is relatively high in all major theaters as well as in Home Islands (60k in Tokyo)
During weekend I'll post some screens from my production
China is well supplied , Southeast fleet too, India landing site got 130k supplies etc.

My paras at Asanol holds enormous force for 3rd day- 18th Uk + 2 indian div against them
I'm securing Java by landing at Banjarmasin,Bali,Parmakasan,Lombok also time to finish Sumatra
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/22/42

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TF 119 troops unloading over beach at Toboali, 22,57


Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

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TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Sabang, 19,41


Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported

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TF 119 troops unloading over beach at Toboali, 22,57


Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported

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TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Sabang, 19,41


Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF at 29,26


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Turusima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,27


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8
Blenheim I x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Tientsin Maru
AP Hakuyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 18
Swordfish x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 13 destroyed
Swordfish: 12 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
CVE Taiyo
CVL Zuiho

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Mannargudi at 16,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
B5N Kate x 48

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 7
Fulmar x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 19 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Cornwall
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 1
CLAA Van Heemskerck

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Lombok, 24,69


Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported

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TF 93 troops unloading over beach at Banjarmasin, 27,64


Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported

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TF 123 troops unloading over beach at Roxas, 42,55


Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14291 troops, 85 guns, 21 vehicles

Defending force 6424 troops, 40 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4103 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 13929 troops, 76 guns, 20 vehicles



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Ground combat at Asansol

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20971 troops, 239 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1539 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 241 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1089 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at 29,22

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13446 troops, 154 guns, 359 vehicles

Defending force 141 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 706 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Toboali

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1202 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Toboali base !!!




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RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 3:34:41 AM   
Raverdave


Posts: 6520
Joined: 2/8/2002
From: Melb. Australia
Status: offline 		First carrier battle and the brits did a half ok job. They chewed up his Kates but failed to put a fish into one of his carriers. Sneer did more damage than he thinks to my CVs, one has all of it's aircraft stuck on board because of the damage so if he decides to go-a-hunting the RN will be in some strife. I can only hope that the loss of so many kates will force him to retire.
Trying to winkle out those jap paras at Asanol is proving difficult and the Germans should be taking notes for Holland

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Post #: 152
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 9:15:50 AM   
Raverdave


Posts: 6520
Joined: 2/8/2002
From: Melb. Australia
Status: offline 		Sneer trys again to sink the RN CV TF with no success. His attack is beaten back by the brave pilots of both the RNFAA and the RAF.

Huzzah ! Huzzah !

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Post #: 153
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 11:41:52 AM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		unfortunately quality of small KB is much worse then its bigger sisters
still strategic victory and tactical draw
calcutta is mine


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/23/42

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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Lombok, 24,69


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TF 93 troops unloading over beach at Banjarmasin, 27,64


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Sagi
BB Ise
BB Fuso
DD Otori
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
BB Hyuga


Allied ground losses:
925 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 3

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 8

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Resources hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Colombo at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A Val x 9
B5N Kate x 21

Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 7
Hurricane II x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CV Indomitable
CVL Hermes

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Sabang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1362 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sabang base !!!



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Ground combat at Calcutta

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3877 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Calcutta base !!!



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Ground combat at Roxas

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 752 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Roxas base !!!



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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3527 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 13980 troops, 77 guns, 21 vehicles



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Ground combat at Asansol

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 27625 troops, 310 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 458 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 1649 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1130 casualties reported
Guns lost 13


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Ground combat at Lombok

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5673 troops, 59 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 1719 troops, 7 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lombok base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2251 casualties reported
Guns lost 3



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Post #: 154
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 12:18:54 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		epilog of carrier battle : my CV tf moved in direction of DH
Raver decided to risk and left 2 sqn of Blenheim IV+ sqn of hurricanes in Jamshdapur even if my tanks entered city - result 44 planes cought on ground - small revenge for massacre of my Kates

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/24/42

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
DD Kuretake
DD Wakatake
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
343 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Resources hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 44th Indian Brigade, at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 60

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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TF 124 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 31,57


Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Jamshedpur

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 8395 troops, 5 guns, 557 vehicles

Defending force 8070 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jamshedpur base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 8 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 14 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
217 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 20,56

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5926 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1529 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 29,22

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 67782 troops, 620 guns, 93 vehicles

Defending force 3916 troops, 16 guns, 106 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 223 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
956 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 33


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3127 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 14023 troops, 79 guns, 21 vehicles



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Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5811 troops, 74 guns, 3 vehicles

Defending force 1813 troops, 9 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported



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RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 1:10:52 PM   
aztez

 

Posts: 4031
Joined: 2/26/2005
From: Finland
Status: offline 		Now that you have firm foothold in India... Is it a possibility to invade the whole country?

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RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/17/2005 1:36:39 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		depends
first I have to decide If i want to:
I have private house rule about taking whole India.
UK would never allow for this
it is gamey that UK & Indian army and fleet reinforcement are stopped after taking Karachi
Moreover Churchill after securing North Africa in 42/43 would send everything to recapture India.
1. If I capture ndia I would occupy city for no longer then 6 months then I withdraw 8- 10 hexes ( i.e Delhi) and truce is claimed for next 6 months to simulate probable shift of commonwelth effort
SO If I take Karachi I will get access to free supply for 6 months - consider it pillaging by Japanese troops. Also I will buy 1 year of truce in major land area.
Problem in this is that Karachi defenders are cut by map edge what is not true IRL.
As I wrote earlier it is aggresive game but points are not most important - I try to play " this war" best I can - don't be wrong - I don't want to play " historical simulation " I want to play "alternative war in the pacific" this means that I'll do my best but will not go for every "gamey" advantage.
On the other hand I asked Raver to not use 4E for ground units bombing as they are too deadly . We do our best to balance certain "features" of the game but still have enormous fun of "free" game

returning to question - As you see Karachi is not worth as much as it could be thought. I would have to commit all southern forces to take Karachi with its "free supply" occupying would tie down many units too. I would need to bring carriers to indian ocean what is not the best option as they are my Pacific defence. Please remember that there was no PH attack so whole US pacific fleet is intact and ready for making big mess - so my KB will go everywhere US carriers are -and they will stay in pacific hidden - Raver is too smart as allied player - I kicked him on my terms but doubt If I can force him to that all the time

east india are worth its effort - you get 6 4+ airfields + production of supplies + some Heavy industry in close area and best idea against allied air power in late war are mutally cooperating airfields - this is best defensive position on whole perimeter + don't forget - no air lift to China unless max range 4e bombers are used
Also you weaken allied troops by cutting off Burma and destroying some first line troops. ( 2 inf bde + rangoon force +5-6 base forces)

I have not decided yet
Either way it is win/win situation for me

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rear area decisions - 12/17/2005 11:23:11 PM   
Sneer


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RE: rear area decisions - 12/17/2005 11:24:40 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		and air production
one note Pete production is halted - just treat it aas free slot to use later




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RE: rear area decisions - 12/18/2005 1:03:26 AM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		day as usual - managed to strike enmy figher force on ground- nice

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/25/42

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
Ki-30 Ann x 26
Ki-32 Mary x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 26

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
21 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 52
Ki-15 Babs x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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TF 108 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47


Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Batan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2758 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1015 troops, 11 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 58 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1061 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 2


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Ground combat at 27,21

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2035 troops, 3 guns, 137 vehicles

Defending force 5820 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Miri

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 765 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Miri base !!!



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Ground combat at Akyab

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3198 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 14142 troops, 78 guns, 20 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


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Ground combat at Dimapur

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1174 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Dimapur base !!!




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RE: rear area decisions - 12/18/2005 11:47:06 AM   
Sneer


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war is going on - 12/18/2005 11:48:37 AM   
Sneer


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Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		ok Akyab is ready to fall but I'll work on it a bit longer

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/26/42

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sagi
DD Otori
DD Fubuki
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
523 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 9
Port supply hits 3

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
DD Kuretake
DD Wakatake
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
182 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Sampit, 26,62


Japanese ground losses:
315 casualties reported

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TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Andaman Island, 23,34


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

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TF 123 troops unloading over beach at Tawi Tawi, 38,60


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Sampit, 26,62


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TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Andaman Island, 23,34


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-21 Sally x 49
Ki-15 Babs x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Resources hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 10th DAF Base Force, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Hatakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Harukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugure
DD Wakaba
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Arare
DD Shiranuhi
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 4

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sagi
DD Otori
DD Fubuki
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 11
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1


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Ground combat at 27,21

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4020 troops, 6 guns, 271 vehicles

Defending force 5770 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1



Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 29,21

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 25307 troops, 147 guns, 90 vehicles

Defending force 1200 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1507 to 1



Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Andaman Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1242 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Andaman Island base !!!



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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14226 troops, 80 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 3368 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported



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next day of this war - 12/18/2005 3:20:08 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		troops landed at Tawi Tawi Brunei and Tarakan
already on Banjarmasin - Borneo should be cleared soon

I think it is high time to sink some Raver's ships but unfortunately I don't see anything

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/27/42

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Hatakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Harukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugure
DD Wakaba
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Arare
DD Shiranuhi
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
287 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 24
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 12

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sagi
DD Otori
DD Fubuki
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
167 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
DD Kuretake
DD Wakatake
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port supply hits 1

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TF 1 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported

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TF 12 troops unloading over beach at Morotai, 43,68


Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57


50 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Tenzan Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
329 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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TF 1 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57


20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Toyo Maru #2, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

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TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
773 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 57
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed

Resources hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
1 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 47
Ki-15 Babs x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Resources hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on SE Borneo Garrison Battalion, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14070 troops, 73 guns, 18 vehicles

Defending force 2726 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Tawi Tawi

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 669 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tawi Tawi base !!!



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Ground combat at Sampit

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5200 troops, 48 guns, 1 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sampit base !!!




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Post #: 163
RE: next day of this war - 12/19/2005 12:02:19 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		excellent day of Raver's fighter force at Asanol


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/28/42

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TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Hatakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Harukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugure
DD Wakaba
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Arare
DD Shiranuhi
CL Tatsuta
CL Kitakami
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 15
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 6

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TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Ki-30 Ann x 26
Ki-32 Mary x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 22
P-40B Tomahawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 3 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 20 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
17 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
1 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 47
Ki-15 Babs x 4

No Japanese losses

Resources hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 10th DAF Base Force, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 71

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Tarakan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22000 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2214 troops, 24 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese assault odds: 47 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarakan base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Do 24K-2: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Guns lost 17


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14124 troops, 76 guns, 18 vehicles

Defending force 2563 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Morotai

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 723 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Morotai base !!!



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Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6048 troops, 80 guns, 3 vehicles

Defending force 1365 troops, 1 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 53 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Banjarmasin base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Dacca

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6489 troops, 63 guns, 1 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 134 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Dacca base !!!




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Post #: 164
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/19/2005 1:15:13 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/01/42

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 damaged

Resources hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 28
Ki-15 Babs x 3

No Japanese losses

Resources hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14245 troops, 78 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 2568 troops, 7 guns, 1 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported



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Post #: 165
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/19/2005 2:32:26 PM   
sven6345789

 

Posts: 1050
Joined: 3/8/2004
From: Sandviken, Sweden
Status: offline 		you seem to be a bit quicker than in our game!

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Post #: 166
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/19/2005 2:49:00 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		practice makes perfect :-)

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Post #: 167
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/19/2005 3:32:46 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		last air attack shows why east india is so important to Japan - mutually cooperating airbases - that's the clue to future defense
Raver should be short on AVG and Hurricanes

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/02/42

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sagi
DD Otori
DD Fubuki
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Yamagumo
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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TF 12 troops unloading over beach at Wasile, 41,69


Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

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TF 142 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59


Japanese ground losses:
243 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 106
Ki-30 Ann x 22
Ki-32 Mary x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 54

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12
Hurricane II x 7
P-40B Tomahawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 10 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 7 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 12 destroyed
Hurricane II: 6 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 8 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
16 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
10 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 36
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Resources hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 56
G3M Nell x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Singkawang, 25,57


Japanese ground losses:
193 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Benkolen, 18,56, firing at TF 128
TF 128 troops unloading over beach at Benkolen, 18,56


10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #1, Shell hits 3

Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 31,22

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25580 troops, 210 guns, 5 vehicles

Defending force 1608 troops, 22 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 105 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
187 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14322 troops, 82 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 2596 troops, 8 guns, 1 vehicles



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Ground combat at Chandpur

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6736 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2440 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Benkolen

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1441 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2869 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles




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Post #: 168
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/20/2005 11:35:59 AM   
Raverdave


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Joined: 2/8/2002
From: Melb. Australia
Status: offline 		AVG are now down to 8 fighters but their exp rating is now 78% Two Hurricane Sqdns have been completely wiped out, but at least I am taking japs with me as i go down !

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Post #: 169
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/20/2005 11:38:40 AM   
fabertong


Posts: 4546
Joined: 2/25/2004
From: Bristol, England, U.K.
Status: offline 		Can you guys post a map of the current situation in India......would love to have a look.

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Post #: 170
RE: 1st carrier battle - 12/20/2005 11:40:16 AM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		Jap air losses are high too
loss of air battle caused Raver escape from Asanol even before my troops entered city
Raver was lazy and moved CL Sumatra northen way in range of my bombers
it is a pity airfield is still 3 there - she would be sunk before day end



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/03/42

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TF 10 troops unloading over beach at Singkawang, 25,57


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Coastal Guns at Benkolen, 18,56, firing at TF 128
TF 128 troops unloading over beach at Benkolen, 18,56


1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Kyo Maru #13

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 50,93

Japanese Ships
SS RO-61

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra

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Naval bombardment of Chandpur, at 30,25 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise, Shell hits 4
BB Fuso, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
581 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 5

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
DD Mikazuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 1
DD Satsuki
DD Ariake
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Shigure
DD Hamakaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Kiso, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CL Nagara
CA Ashigara
CA Maya


Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Port hits 10
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4

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Naval bombardment of Akyab, at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
DD Kuretake
DD Wakatake
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
200 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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ASW attack at 50,93

Japanese Ships
SS RO-61

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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 105
TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64


58 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13
PC Showa Maru #3
AP Yoshida Maru #3, Shell hits 1
PC Ch 18, Shell hits 1, on fire
PC Ch 15

Japanese ground losses:
561 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 105
TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64


28 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Tofuku Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Teiryu Maru, Shell hits 1
PC Showa Maru #3, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Benkolen, 18,56, firing at TF 128
TF 128 troops unloading over beach at Benkolen, 18,56


13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #1, Shell hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 77
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-32 Mary x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
19 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 6 damaged

Resources hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-21 Sally x 40
Ki-15 Babs x 3

No Japanese losses

Resources hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Zuid Garrison Battalion, at 18,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,94

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,94

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G3M Nell x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
DD Mikazuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
DD Ariake
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Shigure
DD Hamakaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CL Nagara
CA Ashigara
CA Maya


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 11
Port hits 16
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 5


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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14421 troops, 83 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 2343 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wasile

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 533 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wasile base !!!



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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 766 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 9745 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Singkawang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4740 troops, 46 guns, 1 vehicles

Defending force 1263 troops, 11 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singkawang base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Do 24K-2: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chandpur

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6654 troops, 66 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 1690 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 64 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chandpur base !!!



Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


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Post #: 171
east india - 12/20/2005 1:45:41 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		I can say I failed in inflicting heavy damage to east india army
it seems that 18thUK at Asanol saved allied troops as initial idea was to paradrop all available units there.
Borneo and Sumatra will be finished soon
CL Sumatra should sink tomorrow
air units resting
included east india map

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/04/42

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TF 128 troops unloading over beach at Benkolen, 18,56


Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CL Nagara
CA Ashigara
CA Maya


Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

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TF 123 troops unloading over beach at Tomini, 34,65


Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

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TF 128 troops unloading over beach at Benkolen, 18,56


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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
Ki-30 Ann x 22
Ki-32 Mary x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 13
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
16 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Zuid Garrison Battalion, at 18,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 12

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th DAF Base Force, at 18,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chandpur Naval Base Force, at 31,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-49 Helen x 43

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,96

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Sumatra, Bomb hits 19, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
1 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Jolo

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4013 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1452 troops, 11 guns, 6 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1868 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2


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Ground combat at Brunei

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5914 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1550 troops, 13 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Brunei base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1756 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8720 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1747 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 49 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Balikpapan base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 6


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Benkolen

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6245 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2020 troops, 4 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese assault odds: 47 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Benkolen base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Lanchow

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 9636 troops, 172 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 164 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lanchow base !!!



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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14500 troops, 85 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 2304 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported






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RE: east india - 12/20/2005 1:58:41 PM   
fabertong


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RE: east india - 12/20/2005 5:17:48 PM   
Sneer


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real problem is that both China and india are abstract
if I take ceylon - I'm tempted and I have means to do it I'll cut Raver off other bases - neither realistic not fair - similar with rest of India - there is no possibility there were no other troops there - lot of troops were organized for other theaters i.e N.Africa so they would stay - it is a gamey too to extent
I'd gladly read what Raver think about situation.
I don't mind adjusting game a bit
I can't imagine a quarter million army conquer and occupy so big country. also withdrawal of british fleet when Japan is present at Indian ocean is a bit silly.


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RE: east india - 12/20/2005 5:25:32 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		Raver if you can post screenshot of CL Sumatra - will be interesting to see her after 26 bomb hits

continuous offensive against chinase resources
good news
neither of my fleet carrier is above 7 sys so new operation is commenced - maybe I'll meet some targets... maybe Raver will decide to counterattack ...maybe
...cruising and once again cruising ...
ships upgraded as scheduled no perturbances by now. supply situation excellent - I have large stockpiles everywhere- lot of oil and resources grabbed in captured bases - soon conwoys will be created to feed home islands. War machine works good - best example - I have below 30k manpower in pool in and it gooes down - troops are in good shape - new units are ready fast



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/42

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 52
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Resources hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chandpur Naval Base Force, at 31,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 18
Ki-49 Helen x 33

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet

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Ground combat at 19,57

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4970 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1115 troops, 24 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
261 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Akyab

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14607 troops, 86 guns, 17 vehicles

Defending force 2320 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Tomini

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 572 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tomini base !!!



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Ground combat at Jorhat

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1300 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1252 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 2



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RE: east india - 12/20/2005 10:33:08 PM   
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ships upgraded as scheduled no perturbances by now. supply situation excellent - I have large stockpiles everywhere- lot of oil and resources grabbed in captured bases - soon conwoys will be created to feed home islands. War machine works good - best example - I have below 30k manpower in pool in and it gooes down - troops are in good shape - new units are ready fast


Things are looking bad for the Allies. If Raver has any bright ideas, he'd better execute them soon. (Have you thought about the North Pacific?)

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RE: east india - 12/20/2005 10:38:20 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		It really does seem like you could capture the India if you had chosen to do so... well, I think showing some mercy to the allied side on this matter in good for this AAR

Hopefully Raver is protecting his RN assets since I kind a have a feeling that Sneer got something up his sleeves

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RE: east india - 12/21/2005 12:59:58 AM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		capturing India till the end is "gamey" - not only taking Karachi
I don't want to commit all forces to take out India of play.
And only reason that would justify such decision would be closing reinforcements in Karachi - since I decided it is "gamey" it is not preferable scenario
I would like to read "what if " kind of analysis from Raver
India can be taken so there is nothing to prove myself.

BTW there are not so many ships of RN in India
my estimation up to 3CA up to 3-4 CL and up to 5 DD
maybe 1 BB
2 damaged CV
RN was decimated in December in opening moves
not a real threat as 4BB/4CA are in region to keep them quiet + LBA

I doubt if Raver can have any bright idea - he can obviously raid any place he want but there is risk of getting damaged CV and in return sinking some of them or facing KB which is now hidden from his eyes.

I wish i went after russia but russian OOB is too strong in comparison to RL and ground combat is bugged unfortunately. India was second best choice. Australia third and Pacific fourth - anything out of historical eastern perimeter is far too far away. Australia nad pacific is too difficult to defend.

No matter the decision for India without air lift and Buma road China is doomed before end of 43
Also keeping east India prevents me from risk of early allied offensive in Burma at least till early 44 so historical outcome on this theater is possible. All I try to do is building up stronger industry / building up strong perimeter in places chosen by me.

Finishing of China is less gamey to me than India
without support from western allies and with stronger and better supplied Japanase forces it is more or less realistic -

pacific war started to secure resources to finish "china incident"
I think I can go with "historical political path"

I think that strong perimeter based on east India with China more or less neutralised can offer good game even in 44 as most Japanse troops were used on secondary from pacific point of view theaters


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RE: east india - 12/21/2005 10:23:15 AM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		it would be strange to capture country so big with quarter million army
damn it is half of Europe + less than half of million in 3-4 months
completely unrealistic

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RE: east india - 12/21/2005 10:42:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to thank my esteemed opponent for his views on the limitations of the map and therefore his work-around. IRL Churchill was ready to send whatever he could (and some units that he didn't have the right to move such as the Aussie 9th Div) to defend India, Churchill was after all a product of his enviroment and a staunch believer in the empire.

yes I seem to be in a lot of trouble at this point IF WE WERE PLAYING FOR POINTS but we are not and so I am striving to hit a balance between hurting Sneer while trading space for time and at the same time trying to preserve my units for the '43 counter assault, and it will be no earlier than '43 simply because the allies do not have much of anything to hit back with until then. In the mean time Sneer is stretching the boundaries of his new empire all of which must be manned and defended. I have an idea that Sneer will use his air units at forward bases as a "trip-wire" with his LCUs sitting back ready to be rushed in. Now he can't really do this in India as he has to keep contact (and also in China) but in the SWPAC and SOPAC and CENTPAC he can do this and how I am going to get around this is going to be interesting. I have a few ideas but nothing that I am willing to share here now.

So what am I going to be going until '43? Simple, try and survive ! But while the US and Aussie mainland is free of japs I will have at least two bases from which to launch my counter-attack.



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