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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 7:56:53 PM   
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The A6M is a much better aircraft then those crappy F4F's!



And yet Japan still lost.


One word - Cats



Let's see - this could mean:

A) Japan lost because she had cats on her side.
B) Japan lost because cats were on the Allied side.
C) Japan lost the air war because her A6M pilots were cats.
D) Japan lost the air war because the F4F pilots were cats.
E) Some of the above.
F) None of the above.

G) Japan lost because U.S., UK and Australian beer are all better than Japaneese beer. It was a morale issue, the cat's are a red herring.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 7:57:16 PM   
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the cat was suspected, but there was no statistical evidence to support the allegation. However the cat was later ancedotally PUNTed just to be on the safe side.



Isn't that what I said?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 7:59:23 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:00:50 PM   
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The A6M is a much better aircraft then those crappy F4F's!



And yet Japan still lost.


One word - Cats



Let's see - this could mean:

A) Japan lost because she had cats on her side.
B) Japan lost because cats were on the Allied side.
C) Japan lost the air war because her A6M pilots were cats.
D) Japan lost the air war because the F4F pilots were cats.
E) Some of the above.
F) None of the above.

G) Japan lost because U.S., UK and Australian beer are all better than Japaneese beer. It was a morale issue, the cat's are a red herring.



That was covered by F.

The CORRECT answer(s): E and F.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:02:01 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?


Speedy implied that he is sorta in touch with him, and that it is RL stuff overloading him right now.

Speedy? You still around?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:02:43 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?

I heard that you know who got to him, you know who i mean.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:04:28 PM   
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isn't that what i said?




not quite. you need to be precise.....always ensure a level field of neautrality before PUNTing.


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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:04:55 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?

I heard that you know who got to him, you know who i mean.


er... no, not really... are you talking about someone on the forum? his GF? the IRS (Danish equivalent)?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:07:52 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?

I heard that you know who got to him, you know who i mean.


er... no, not really... are you talking about someone on the forum? his GF? the IRS (Danish equivalent)?

It's a conspiracy...Shhhh....we could be next.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:09:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?

I heard that you know who got to him, you know who i mean.


er... no, not really... are you talking about someone on the forum? his GF? the IRS (Danish equivalent)?

It's a conspiracy...Shhhh....we could be next.


Oooo- Kayy....



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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:25:31 PM   
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7500... That's a nice number for a last and final post...


Has anyone heard from Terminus?


Speedy implied that he is sorta in touch with him, and that it is RL stuff overloading him right now.

Speedy? You still around?


Aye i'm herre for now....still p*ssed off so time for curry and beer soon.

Yeah T is just a bit busy with RL stuff at the mo. I'm sure he'll be back soon

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:27:13 PM   
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Edit: or is it blathering?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 8:35:37 PM   
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"Snide quips" kinda fits what Terminus does.......

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 9:31:40 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 9:36:23 PM   
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I did have a pretty good go-around with my opponent a while back. That was fun.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 9:52:45 PM   
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Yeah, your naked animal is the highlight of the day.

I did have a pretty good go-around with my opponent a while back. That was fun.



your opponent??

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 9:55:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		So Nik, you are saying that cats when punted are more aerodynamic then F4F's or A6M's ?

We know why Japan lost, it is purely because women entered service in the USA, it has nothing to do with anything else. Obviously without the women, the USA would have never become a superpower

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 9:57:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		My PBEM opponent. It's in the AE Thread. I sent KB (4 CVs) after a supply convoy east of Canton. The other KB (2 CVs, 2 CVLs) came from another direction. They trashed 2 convoys and he sent the Yorktown which I sank, then the Saratoga, which I sank. I had moderate damage to 2 CVs and heavy damage to 2 CVs. I lost 1 DD to a sub and sank:

2 CV
2 CA
1 CL
5 DD
13 AK
14 TK
4 SS

He's still trying to find my CVs.

Unsuccessfully, I might add.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:09:28 PM   
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We know why Japan lost, it is purely because women entered service in the USA, it has nothing to do with anything else. Obviously without the women, the USA would have never become a superpower


Without women in the servive the US would have happly drank beer and ate Cheetos while watching TV in it's undewear. Not a super power but happier.

Behind every great man there is a woman nagging and nagging him to do better.


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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:12:39 PM   
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So Nik, you are saying that cats when punted are more aerodynamic then F4F's or A6M's ?




My cat always lands on it's feet. Can't say the same for my aircraft.

The F4F reminds me of a quote from the Hitchhiker's guide "Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, turns like a cow".

Cats and Zeros should get a bonus.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:13:51 PM   
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So Nik, you are saying that cats when punted are more aerodynamic then F4F's or A6M's ?



If their IAS goes above 250, then yes, PUNTed cats roll much better and as everyone knows, roll rate is the most important element in maneverability.



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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:26:56 PM   
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So Nik, you are saying that cats when punted are more aerodynamic then F4F's or A6M's ?



If their IAS goes above 250, then yes, PUNTed cats roll much better and as everyone knows, roll rate is the most important element in maneverability.




i am afraid to ask (but i will): what is IAS?

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:33:34 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:36:03 PM   
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i am afraid to ask (but i will): what is IAS?


(I)ndicated (A)ir (S)peed. Quite different at times from (T)rue (A)ir (S)peed.

The gauge in the aircraft measure flow of air ... it does not have the brains to track speed over the ground.

You could be flying at 100 knots into a 40 knot headwind and actually only be flying forward at 60 knots.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 10:45:54 PM   
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i am afraid to ask (but i will): what is IAS?


(I)ndicated (A)ir (S)peed. Quite different at times from (T)rue (A)ir (S)peed.

The gauge in the aircraft measure flow of air ... it does not have the brains to track speed over the ground.

You could be flying at 100 knots into a 40 knot headwind and actually only be flying forward at 60 knots.


True - but as you get faster in WW2 aircraft, the IAS would be wonky as you got up to towards the speed of sound (i.e. over 400 mph) as the pitot tube airspeed measurements weren't designed to handle this.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 11:26:18 PM   
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i am afraid to ask (but i will): what is IAS?


(I)ndicated (A)ir (S)peed. Quite different at times from (T)rue (A)ir (S)peed.

The gauge in the aircraft measure flow of air ... it does not have the brains to track speed over the ground.

You could be flying at 100 knots into a 40 knot headwind and actually only be flying forward at 60 knots.


True - but as you get faster in WW2 aircraft, the IAS would be wonky as you got up to towards the speed of sound (i.e. over 400 mph) as the pitot tube airspeed measurements weren't designed to handle this.



Not really a problem cause the wings would rip off at about the same point in time

It's almost funny to look back on aircraft designed back in the "Dark Ages" of WW II and marvel that more people didn't die then actually did. Being a pilot then meant something, you had to physically fly the plane and deal with the G forces ... dive bombing in those days must have really been an interesting exercise. Here, stick out you dive brakes so the wings don't rip off and point at the ground ... if your pull up was late or your bomb didn't come off, bye bye ...

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 11:37:08 PM   
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Not really a problem cause the wings would rip off at about the same point in time




The reason i brought it up is i ran across that in my readings on the P-38. Because of the high-lift wings which were designed to give it a good climb rate, the air would move across the top of the wing at 40% faster than the bottom of the wing.

This means that at altitude (where the speed of sound is slower) that in a dive (say at 450 mph True Air Speed), the air would be moving at supersonic speeds while the rest of the plane is moving at 450 mph. This caused the infamous "compressability tuck" - and it could be difficult to get OUT of the dive if you didn't know what you were doing.

And yes, if you tried turning to get out of the dive, the wings COULD come off. However, a good pilot (even if untrained in the situation) could figure it out. For a green pilot - well, things were problematic.

IAS would be nowhere near what the True Air Speed was in these cases. All kinds of wild speed records were claimed by various pilots and touted in the papers.

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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 11:48:20 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 11:52:34 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 2/10/2006 11:58:44 PM   
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