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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 8:59:21 PM   
Sonny

 

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Status: offline 		Way to go Don & Joe.

David, can you tell us if any design decisions or limitations have been put on the New and Improved WitP team? I'm sure you must have discussed a lot of the big picture type decisions with the new guys.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:00:10 PM   
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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:01:04 PM   
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Welcome!!!!

Great news, glad to hear that there will be more development in the future for WITP!!!

Need a third? Gotta be more interesting than what I am doing now...


Yeah, but when I asked you turned me down. <_<

Anyway, this sounds like great news. I'd buy a WitP II. :) Of course I want the new War in Russia more, but either is a pleasant thought.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:12:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good to hear this has happened. I can only assume that Joe's attempt at an independent venture fell apart eventually due to lack of participation. I hope that this will produce results that will be acceptable to all...not that it will.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:15:43 PM   
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Do it right this time...ditch the "it's all working as designed" playtesters and quit listening to the "we should take whatever they give us and pay extra" Matrix cheering section. Frankly, most of the game design issues were ID'ed when UV came out and the naysayers were ignored. Leading to the current fantasy POS with all the issues magnified on a theatre-wide scale. Gee, maybe listen to Ron et al. this time around instead of the Mogami/Frag clique. He's been pretty much spot on with his criticisms since UV...and they (Mogami/Frag), I suspect, have had a major negative impact on this games development with their idiocy.

Not knocking or denigrating your continueing patching efforts and on-going support for the game...it's just hopeless since the game design is so badly flawed.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:17:47 PM   
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WitP II?

Do it right this time...ditch the "it's all working as designed" playtesters and quit listening to the "we should take whatever they give us and pay extra" Matrix cheering section. Frankly, most of the game design issues were ID'ed when UV came out and the naysayers were ignored. Leading to the current fantasy POS with all the issues magnified on a theatre-wide scale. Gee, maybe listen to Ron et al. this time around instead of the Mogami/Frag clique. He's been pretty much spot on with his criticisms since UV...and they (Mogami/Frag), I suspect, have had a major negative impact on this games development with their idiocy.

Not knocking or denigrating your continueing patching efforts and on-going support for the game...it's just hopeless since the game design is so badly flawed.



Don't hold back Juliet...how do you really feel?

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:19:11 PM   
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And congrats to Don & Joe !

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:26:29 PM   
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Don't hold back Juliet...how do you really feel?


Didn't take long....did it?

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:30:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Berkut

Welcome!!!!

Great news, glad to hear that there will be more development in the future for WITP!!!

Need a third? Gotta be more interesting than what I am doing now...


Yeah, but when I asked you turned me down. <_<

Anyway, this sounds like great news. I'd buy a WitP II. :) Of course I want the new War in Russia more, but either is a pleasant thought.


I was pretty sure you wouldn't be able to pay me though...

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:54:11 PM   
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Don't hold back Juliet...how do you really feel?


Didn't take long....did it?


Yeah its kinda sad actually. I simply dont get the hatefulness of some of the people there. I chalk it up to passion for the game, which is a good thing. I guess.


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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 9:56:07 PM   
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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:01:54 PM   
Ideologue

 

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I was pretty sure you wouldn't be able to pay me though...


Man, it didn't used to be about the money.

Oh, wait, yeah it did.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:15:21 PM   
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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome to the funny farm to Don Bowen and Joe Wilkerson and best wishes. Just try not to take us naysayers too personally. Blood pressure medication is too expensive.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:20:40 PM   
Big B

 

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Congratulations Joe Wilkerson and Don Bowen!!

I have hope things will get even better!!

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:33:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Greetings all,

Some things to keep in mind. Because we don't want to get distracted by launching new initiatives until we've got the 1.8 patch in hand, we will not be focusing on new development activities initially. However, once we have 1.8 released, then we will be interacting with the forum more to determine what is next. As soon as Don and I have taken care of some logistical matters to get us up and running, we will be estimating a timeframe for 1.8 and we will get that to you, I expect that estimate to be done in about a week.

Also, I have gone through ( manually ) the WITP Wish list thread and pulled the data from the first 400 or so items, in that list. There are a number of duplicates, but not too many. But I would say that the wish list is still a useful place to record suggestions.

Thanks for the "greetings" and know that Don and I are excited to be joining the team and for the opportunity to try to take WITP in directions that will be good for all of us.


Joe




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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:36:51 PM   
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Don't hold back Juliet...how do you really feel?


Didn't take long....did it?


Yeah its kinda sad actually. I simply dont get the hatefulness of some of the people there. I chalk it up to passion for the game, which is a good thing. I guess.



More like brutal honesty from a paying customer. A little more honest input and a lot less butt-nuzzling right from the start and maybe we wouldn't be talking "WitP II". If this was an accident victim (instead of a train wreck), it'd look like a mummy from all the layers of bandaids applied trying to stop arterial bleeding.

I'll buy WitP II...maybe a year after its release. If the game designs been thought through. If my leaders don't dissappear. If land combat works. If air combat works. If the log system works. If you can play without an inch thick list of self-imposed "house rules" ect.

And no...I don't play this game, and destroyed the disk in case I was ever tempted to re-install it for the umpteenth time.

Good by again till next year or so...back to looking at the pictures.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:37:59 PM   
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Fantastic news about a possible enhancement or even better, WiTP II...

Please take my money now.

I'd be happy to.

< Message edited by niceguy2005 -- 3/3/2006 10:38:26 PM >

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:39:47 PM   
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I would recommend "Irrelevant".

He seems to be among the few who actually understands it's workings.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 10:40:57 PM   
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Great news. I can see Halsey coming back from limbo right now.





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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:02:53 PM   
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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:04:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is really great welcome aboad guys!

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:06:21 PM   
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A little more honest input and a lot less butt-nuzzling


Are you kidding?!

Honesty is way over-rated. Butt nuzzling all the way.

Oh wait. We're not talking about that.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:25:00 PM   
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Why does the name "Don Bowen" really sound familiar to me? Some association with old 3W or GDW or Avalon Hill maybe?


Not sure, but I believe Don Bowen has been with CHS for some time...maybe that's where you heard the name..

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:26:04 PM   
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A little more honest input and a lot less butt-nuzzling


Are you kidding?!

Honesty is way over-rated. Butt nuzzling all the way.

Oh wait. We're not talking about that.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:32:18 PM   
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Why does the name "Don Bowen" really sound familiar to me? Some association with old 3W or GDW or Avalon Hill maybe?


I used to contribute to work on PacWar - mainly the early editors. If you are thinking of anything else - I am sure that I have an alibi for that day.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:34:58 PM   
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Why does the name "Don Bowen" really sound familiar to me? Some association with old 3W or GDW or Avalon Hill maybe?


I used to contribute to work on PacWar - mainly the early editors. If you are thinking of anything else - I am sure that I have an alibi for that day.



lol

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:39:56 PM   
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No sweat man. I have this vague memory of "Bowen" written artiste sig on old Avalon Hill cover art. Wondered if there was some conxtion.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/3/2006 11:56:07 PM   
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Those that actually play it at least.


Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood point Nik!!

Welcome sir aboard! Please don take us too seriously we just want to be Nimitz's or Yamamoto's shoes sooooooooo badly.

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RE: New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ - 3/4/2006 12:07:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		WITP 2? What the hell would there be left to improve upon after patch 1.8? If everything works as planned, I really don't see how they could make the game more complete... Graphics...maybe??

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