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F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 1:54:36 AM

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I'm building a model of a wrecked Wildcat and I would like to know if the control surfaces were doped cotton (like the TBD) or metal. It's very hard to determine from the pix I can find on the net.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 2:15:03 AM

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Was it wrecked due to the Zero bonus or was it one of the few ops losses?

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 2:20:04 AM

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Pilot was practicing Thach weave manuver during 1942 with an experience below 60. Guess it counts as an ops loss.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 3:11:46 AM

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Entire F4F series was metal..

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 3:12:02 AM

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They were doped fabric.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 3:14:47 AM

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Entire F4F series was metal..

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They were doped fabric

That settles things nicely

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 3:42:28 AM

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quote:

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Entire F4F series was metal..

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They were doped fabric

*Sings* And the monkey wrapped his tail around the flag-pole, flashed his arse-hole to the crowd!

I don't know why that song came to mind, but when I was on the Tommy-T, I had an LPO that used to sing that when he recieved FUBAR info. :)

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 4:04:42 AM

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The model on display in Pensacola is all metal.
Honestly don't remember which model it is.
(Might be the GM unit.)

Just went back to the Navy museum website and they now have 14 different Wildcats.

http://naval.aviation.museum/home.html

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 4:19:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whipple

quote:

quote:

Entire F4F series was metal..

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They were doped fabric

*Sings* And the monkey wrapped his tail around the flag-pole, flashed his arse-hole to the crowd!

I don't know why that song came to mind, but when I was on the Tommy-T, I had an LPO that used to sing that when he recieved FUBAR info. :)

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Whipple...We are happy to amuse you....I see you specialise in what YOU contribute to the forum..........

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 4:48:13 AM

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Whipple...We are happy to amuse you....I see you specialise in what YOU contribute to the forum..........

Huh?

Truely sorry that my post offended you.

I was just trying to make a joke about how conflicting information can lead to unexpected results. I guess I didn't do so well with the joke and I appologize. It was not my intention to offend either of the posters who responded with the information.

As for my contribution to the forum...I know that I contribute little. I ask questions that are probably contained in the documentaion or the update info, but I only ask because I can't find what I am looking for.

Again, I appologize if my reply was on the wrong side of the foul-line.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 4:55:47 AM

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Foul line schmoul line...

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 5:18:02 AM

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Foul line schmoul line...

Thanks Shipmate.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 6:14:37 AM

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The model on display in Pensacola is all metal.
Honestly don't remember which model it is.
(Might be the GM unit.)

Okay, back to my books. I'm pretty sure that the F4F-3 was fabric covered, at the least the preproduction model. I assumed the F4F was too. Let me chack.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 6:20:47 AM

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Didn't find it in my books found it on the first website I looked at.

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All control surfaces of the Wildcat were fabric-covered and were mechanically operated, with exception of the flaps, which were operated by a vacuum tank installed behind the cockpit. The rudder and elevator had small horn balances, the ailerons had inset hinges.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 6:21:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

quote:

The model on display in Pensacola is all metal.
Honestly don't remember which model it is.
(Might be the GM unit.)

Okay, back to my books. I'm pretty sure that the F4F-3 was fabric covered, at the least the preproduction model. I assumed the F4F was too. Let me chack.

Chez

In past, I have been fairly impressed by Chez's knowledge of aircraft..

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 6:27:56 AM

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In past, I have been fairly impressed by Chez's knowledge of aircraft..

Only "fairly impressed?" I'm going to have to try harder!!!

Chez

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 4:53:30 PM

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Thanks for your help everybody (esp Chez), I'll post a picture when it is done. It's being built for a modelers competition.

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 5:14:13 PM

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In past, I have been fairly impressed by Chez's knowledge of aircraft..

Only "fairly impressed?" I'm going to have to try harder!!!

Chez

O.K....Freakin' well amazed!!..Now..Yuh HAPPY?

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 8:00:06 PM

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O.K....Freakin' well amazed!!..Now..Yuh HAPPY?

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RE: F4F-3 and F4F-4 Question - 3/25/2006 8:31:57 PM

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Thanks for your help everybody (esp Chez), I'll post a picture when it is done. It's being built for a modelers competition.

How about posting some pics of previous modelling efforts of yours.

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