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RE: 9th July 1943 - 5/7/2006 3:33:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Over on his AAR, faber is doing a victory dance. There's something deeply disturbing about a penguin doing a victory dance...

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10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 12:44:49 AM   
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T - a victory dance? A victory dance? I would hardly call it a Japanese vicory. Sure he has temporarily stopped me taking Wake but has lost 2 x CV's and 4 x BB's...........

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The retreat to Midway continued n ernest today. SS I-6 tried to interfere with my CV's and their escorts. She was left limping away heavily damaged by the end of the day....don't meess with my DD's Penguin

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Air attacks in Burma and China as per norm.

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33rd USA ID arrives at San Francisco tomorrow

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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 2:13:17 AM   
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RE: 1st July 1943 - 5/8/2006 6:23:16 AM   
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fantastic battle
But i fear we will see a lot more allied guys complaining that taking atolls is unrealistic ect, ect.
PLEASE NOTE -in real life the allies pounded days and days at a time, some times for weeks.

As A Japan player I can tell you that bombardments do hurt -but 1 day, 2 days, even 3 or 4 days is not going to be enough.

You did not prepare properly -the imperial divisionis waiting, you need to pound for days.
I think you just gave japan a chance to drag this out forever by wrecking so many divisions!

Great battle but.

I would say that one of the more unrealistic parts of this scenario is fitting an entire division on Wake, much less invading it with 7 divisions, but you've got to do what the game demands.

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RE: 1st July 1943 - 5/8/2006 6:25:07 AM   
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11th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 12:09:31 PM   
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Aye. Jutland of the Pacific indeed

I think tomorrow I will be able to list every single ship that was lost in Operation Falcon and the causes. Should be a long list

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My last transports are about 1/2 way back to Midway now under CV escort. Unfortunately I believe 1 of the 2 transports carrying 1st USA Cav Division will sink.

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Lots of damaged ships either en route to PH still or repairing at Midway.

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I am looking forward to a foray into enemy territory within 2 months now. I will scour the seas with my CV's whilst LCU's are moved from Australia, South Pacific and the West Coast. I am weighing up different options as to where to attack.

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Tomorrow an AK and a DE arrive at San Francisco.

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RE: 11th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 12:11:20 PM   
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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 3:57:53 PM   
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T - a victory dance? A victory dance? I would hardly call it a Japanese vicory. Sure he has temporarily stopped me taking Wake but has lost 2 x CV's and 4 x BB's...........


i wouldn't call fabertong's posts "a victory dance" - methinks T. is playing with your head...

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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 3:59:31 PM   
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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 4:06:39 PM   
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Dude! Shut up...



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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 5:50:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		speedy .. if your worried about an AP sinking with troops on , make sure there are other transports in the same TF .. so you can rescue the men at least..

Cant say i read Fabers thread .. but a penguin dancing reminds me of Wallace and gromit in the wrong trousers

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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 7:31:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah....looks like a victory dance too......I guess since "march of the Penquins" has been taken we should label it "Glee of the penquins"

ha ha. Speedy sucks. Back to States with you and the Board of Inquiry you'll face from King.

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RE: 11th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 9:17:31 PM   
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My last transports are about 1/2 way back to Midway now under CV escort. Unfortunately I believe 1 of the 2 transports carrying 1st USA Cav Division will sink.


Try putting a lot of escorts in the TF with these transports. If one sinks, the escorts will pluck many of the guys out of the ocean. You'll lose the guns/vehicles but not so many men.

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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 9:29:26 PM   
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Yeah....looks like a victory dance too......I guess since "march of the Penquins" has been taken we should label it "Glee of the penquins"


The "Victory Waddle"?

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RE: 10th July 1943 - 5/8/2006 10:03:48 PM   
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LOL guys. I know from Fabers mails to me that he classes this as a significant defeat. Other than the land victory the rest is not good for the Japanese. As he says the irony is that he was hoping the Combined Fleet would stop my invasion but the CD guns and mines proved to be the decisive factor!

Rob/Mike - good points. I have 2 x Transports en route from Midway to hopefully meet the striken and flooding transport. It's uinlikely they will reach her on time though. 360 miles of ocean to go with her at 87 FLT...............

Nik - No comment ....Incompetent Commander of the Batavia bad boys (the transport men you led to their doom).

T - I know not to trust you again

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Interesting. Faber is bringing up more tropps to the Mandalay rail line! I must remember in my future games to include a rule about not using too many Kwantung/Home Defence units out of theatre.......Accordingly my O38 group training in Karachi will move to Imphal rather than Ledo to bomb the crap out of these Japanese gits.

If my men can just hold. Myitkyina will fall in time....every day he is losing strength there due to my interdiction campaign.

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SS I-166 tried to penetrate my CV screen en route to Midway. Most DC's were avoided and the enemy commander did well but DD Charles Ausburne landed some well placed DC's that left the I-Boat heavily damaged.......

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The Darwin based heavies have been quiet recently. Time for a visit to Kendari's airfields tomorrow......

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SS Hoe intercepted a troop convoy inbetween Pagan and Iwo Jima. She damgaed the empty transport AP Husimi Maru. PC Ishigaki landed some nearby DC's causing 20 SYS damage. She is returning to PH and is to be replaced on station by SS Halibut.

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Sorry guys. Forgot to record Operartion Falcon losses. Will try to do so tomorrow. It will take a while to compile

2 x AK arrive at San Francisco tomorrow.

The below screenie shows 6 units at Mandalay. There are a further 2 on the rail line aswell.




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13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 12:07:37 AM   
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Weather was too bad over Darwin for any operations. We try tomorrow.


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SS Trident fired her last 4 torpedo's at TK Kuroshio Maru. 1 hit which mortally wounded the ship blowing off her bow. The Tanker quickly 240 miles east of Palembang as the submarine moved towards Colimbo. SS Trusty is en route to replace her.

SS Kingfish was not as successful. Her torpedo's missed ML Hoko 120 miles south of Iwo Jima.

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Here's the final tally for Operation Falcon:

Allied:

AP U.S Grant
AP William BP. Biddle
BB Pennsylvania
CA Vincennes
DD Philip
CL Richmond
BB Colorado
SS Cachalot
TK Halsey
DD Barton
DD Woodworth
DD Hughes
DD Lang
DD Cummings
DD Balch
DD Fox
DMS Trevor
DMS Hamilton
DMS Boggs
DMS Lamberton
DMS Dorsey
DMS Perry
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot
MSW Colac
MSW Deloraine
MSW Requiste
MSW Revenge
MSW Sage
MSW Herald
MSW Motive
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Strive
MSW Token
MSW Oriole
MSW Penguin
MSW Quail
MSW Grebe
MSW Vireo
MSW Robin
MSW Whippoorwill
MSW Bobolink
SC SC-634
AP President Fillmore
AP W.A. Holbrook
AK Adelong
AK Propus
LCI - 75
LCI - 217
LCI - 218
LCI - 219
LCI - 221
LCI - 223
LCI - 327
LCI - 330
LCI - 331
LCI - 332
AP Bloemfontrin
PG Vancouver
PG Moncton
MSW Lockeport
BB Maryland
DD Caldwell
AP Latimer
LCI - 62
AP Tasker H. Bliss
AK Californian
AP Barnett

Japanese (known):

BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
SS I-27
SS I-177
SS I-28
DD Ikazuchi
DD Amagiri
CA Suzuya
SS I-19
DD Tamanami
CV Soryu
CV Hiryu
BB Nagato
BB Musashi
DD Akatsuki
DD Urakaze
CL Kuma
CA Kako
DD Susuzuki
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Naganami
DD Hagikaze
DD Michishio
DD Yamagumo
DD Umakaze
DD Uzuki
DD Kiji
SS I-156

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Here's an example of a post-Falcon division; the 40th:




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RE: 13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 12:18:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Totals for Falcon:

Allied:

BB - 3
CA - 1
CL -1
DD - 9
AP - 7
AK - 3
LCI - 11
SC - 1
MSW - 19
PG - 2
DMS - 8
TK - 1
SS - 1

Japanese:

CV - 2
BB - 4
SS - 5
CA - 2
CL - 1
DD - 14

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RE: 13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 12:29:16 AM   
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RE: 13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 5:33:17 AM   
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Damn.


My sentiments as well!

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14th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 5:41:20 PM   
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Good news my heavily damaged AP has rendevoused with 2 transports and 4 destroyers. They are standing by alongside the ship expecting her sinking.

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Heavy bombing by me in Burma against Myitkyina, Mandalay and IJA troops.

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SS Skipjack missed AK Momoyama Maru with 4 torpedos 120 miles NE of Jesselton.

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The additional enemy forces on the rail line include the 3rd Tank Division

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RE: 13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 8:13:09 PM   
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Totals for Falcon:

Allied:

BB - 3
CA - 1
CL -1
DD - 9
AP - 7
AK - 3
LCI - 11
SC - 1
MSW - 19
PG - 2
DMS - 8
TK - 1
SS - 1

Japanese:

CV - 2
BB - 4
SS - 5
CA - 2
CL - 1
DD - 14

Holly mackerel Batman!

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RE: 13th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 8:15:23 PM   
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Totals for Falcon:

Allied:

BB - 3
CA - 1
CL -1
DD - 9
AP - 7
AK - 3
LCI - 11
SC - 1
MSW - 19
PG - 2
DMS - 8
TK - 1
SS - 1

Japanese:

CV - 2
BB - 4
SS - 5
CA - 2
CL - 1
DD - 14

Holly mackerel Batman!

Speedy, have you assessed the condition of your minesweeping assets after that battle? The USN certainly got the better of that exchange, but not as much better as I had thought.

Note to self: CD guns, CD guns, CD guns!

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15th July 1943 - 5/9/2006 11:17:12 PM   
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Well the raid against Kendari met with mixed results. It is clearly the Japanese bastion in the area:

Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 13
J2M Jack x 12
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 30
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 134
PB4Y Liberator x 15
B-24D Liberator x 56

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 11 destroyed
J2M Jack: 9 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 19 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged
J1N1-R Irving: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 6 destroyed, 29 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 7 destroyed, 15 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 37

Aircraft bombing at 10000 feet

Overall the Japanese lost 80 planes in the day to my 38. We return tomorrow to try and bag more damaged one's on the ground. A gamble since my men have lowish morale and Faber may bring in more fighters.........

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Good news. My heavily damaged AP surprisingly made it back to Midway. She is beginning to unload troops at 89 FLT.

My CV's have docked and will take on fuel today. Then we move to PH for a bit of R & R until CV Intrepid arrives and my airgroups are fully upgraded to F6F's and TBM's.

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Niceguy - not too bad actually. I have 63 x MSW still active (over 1/2 of those in Australia. Soon to be rectified) and 5 x DMS.

I agree though the most annoying loss has been the MSW forces and the disruption to my LCU's.

BB Tennesee is leaving Midway today at 60 SYS damage. Bound for PH.

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Tomorow CV Bunker Hill arrives as does SS Skate and a DD




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RE: 15th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 3:17:46 AM   
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(i'll leave it to the reader to try to figure out which song this is best sung/hummed to):

Hope’s dashed to the floor
Like shattered Penguin dreams
Invading Wake
Is never what it seems

(bridge 1)
That walk in the park can become a bad dream
Penguins are shooting and firing at me
This is the only escape from it all:
Bombing those penguins until they fall.

(chorus)
Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
(Waiting for Speedy)
Oh, Wake Island is waiting

I don't need a bomber
I've got a ship of steel
Speedy shelled Wake Island
And stole the Penguin’s Kril

(bridge 2)
You’re bombing, you’re shelling, but nothing's for free
I never want this to happen to me
Don't try invading, you're wasting your time
Now we've got something much better in mind

Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
Oh, Wake Island is waiting
Waiting for Speedy
(Waiting for Speedy)
Oh, Wake Island is waiting

That walk in the park can become a bad dream
Penguins are shooting and firing at me
This is the only escape from it all:
Bombing those penguins until they fall.

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16th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 11:24:54 AM   
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Thanks Robert

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A mixed day for my submarine's today.

SS Snook fired 6 torpedo's at ML Wakatake 240 miles east of Saipan. Unfortunately they failed to detonate

SS Gudgeon found a couple of APD's inbetween Wake and Marcus Island. She heavily damaged APD-31 with a torpedo. In return the other APD dropped some well placed DC's moderately damaging my sub. She is to return to PH for repairs.

SS Capelin, patrolling 180 miles east of Batan Island, was located by a couple of MSW's. They did not fix her postion though. Shortly thereafter my sub scouted the horizon and found some tankers. She hit the empty tanker Syoyu Maru with a torpedo before sneaking away..........

SS Gato was heavily damaged by a Sally dropped bomb 240 miles SE of Okinawa. She is to return to PH for repair.

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The follow up on Kendari was not as successful. 83 enemy fighters rose to meet my 143 heavies. Ny the end of the day I had lost 41 aircraft to 50 Japanese. 30 of my losses were Forts in a2a.

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A small addendum. I thought Hyuga and Yamashiro had sunk after receiving a pounding from my CV air. No confirmation can be found of this from Intel. As such I only think Nagato and Musashi have sunk.........

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AP. Hugh L. Scott sank at Midway taking a fair bit of the 1st USA Cav Division with her (despite there being other transports and DD's in the same TF).

CV Bunker Hill arrived at San Francisco.

An LCI arrives tomorrow.

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RE: 16th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 12:39:27 PM   
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RE: 16th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 12:43:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		No idea i'm afraid. From bomber info 4 units are at the base. These losses are from a2a though. Only 1 plane was lost to AA.

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RE: 16th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 12:47:27 PM   
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RE: 16th July 1943 - 5/10/2006 2:07:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Roger. He could do and i'd move elsewhere. The heavies at Darwin are there as a deterrent and to keep him on his toes. In short I don't want any place to be 100% immune from me within Heavy range at Darwin. I have already disrupted ALL oil production at Amboina and Sorong and 90% Resource production at Kendari, Bulla, Amboina and Sorong. Also apart from a few patrol planes at Amboina/Sorong there are no active airfields in the area, apart from Kendari.

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RE: 16th July 1943 - 5/11/2006 12:40:07 AM   
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