pauk
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Joined: 10/21/2001 From: Zagreb,Croatia Status: offline
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hi guys, both of you have valid points, but everything will depend on situation. I have no many training grounds/camps available... so i guess it is better to have 100 75 exp pilots than 30 in the 80s. In the late 1942 and start of the 1943 there is no opportunities like you've described Nemo,.... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/30/42 I've tried to harras enemy fighters in Burma, but Navy LBA are just laughable when it comes to "ground bombings"... Night Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 20 Aircraft Attacking: 20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet Using advantage of Allied defeat in the skies over Chungking. I will not send unescorted bombers for to much longer... Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33 Japanese aircraft Ki-49 Helen x 24 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 13 several heavy airstrikes on Chungking, but there wasn't anything left to destroy... Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36 Ki-21 Sally x 26 Ki-49 Helen x 60 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 124 casualties reported Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 101 --------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 46 Ki-21 Sally x 54 Ki-49 Helen x 48 Ki-46-II Dinah x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 71 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 50 ----------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 82 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 5 damaged Allied ground losses: 118 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 77 ------------------------------------------ Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 Ki-21 Sally x 97 Ki-49 Helen x 63 Ki-46-II Dinah x 4 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 86 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 101 One chinese unit tried shock attack on my division at Chungking-Yunan road... but it was too much for them. Several enemy units approaching from Chengtu and will arrive on time to reinforce blocking force in the hex north of Chungking. Ground combat at 41,32 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 6418 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 165 Defending force 22673 troops, 238 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 453 Allied max assault: 326 - adjusted assault: 14 Japanese max defense: 326 - adjusted defense: 263 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 22 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Allied ground losses: 620 casualties reported Guns lost 3 PROPAGANDA WARFARE Here is what Andy and me said to each other. You decide if all of it is a truth ANDY: (day one of the Chungking massacre) quote:
Hehehe Attritional Battles I am willing to fight .....bring it on !!!! PAUK:quote:
finally you are willing to fight... i accept the challenge, but you will run out of the China! ANDY:quote:
I am not the one dodging the fight where were you at Myktinia or Tarawa, Narau or Perth only at Akyab did you fight back so 1 out of 5 attacks not that great a record. If you seriously expect me to fight you on your terms with inadequate resources and inferior equipment you are crazy. Look at China I cannot compete with 200 top line fighters my P40B, P40E, P38, and Spitfire pools are all empty after a mere two days and you still have 300 ish operational fighters in theatre. I will wait bide my time and bushwack another training school in the future PAUK:quote:
hehehe, you have sense for humor: Only lunatic would fight at Mykitinia, level 2 AF with several big Allied AFs nearby and 500 air monsters.... As for Tarawa i couldn't fight there because i haven't got any troops there. You caught me unprepared (well done) When i brought several divisions to Truk you already had 40.000 there... Narau, common, who needs this useless island? I don't sacrify my pilots for nothing (you can afford yourself to loose hundreds of bombers just to drain my KB crack pilots) while your carriers are in the safety. Japanese did mistake in RL when they assigned KB air groups for ground targets (Midway). Sorry but i'm aint so stupid:) Perth... hehehe... another dead trap....only the lunatic would do that.... Actually it seems that you are underestimating Allies capatibility and overestimated Japan ones. I saw several AARs where Allies re-captured Lunga, PM or establish strong foothold in SRA (Northern Guinea) or succesfully invaded Malaya/Burma. Or you just overestimated me as a player:)? Hm, your pools are empty? (this goes to the propaganda warfare, i think. I could check losses and allied fighters rate to confirm that) I wouldn't have enough fighters if you forced me to bleed in attrition battles during last 7 months. Lots of Army fighters are trained to the crack level (80+) and my IJA AF isn't even decimated. It is pay off - you turned to Sir Robin, Japan have enough time to train his air crew. I'm looking forward for next bushwack in the China... this time i would be prepared and you will loose not only 250 planes:)))) ANDY: (last post) quote:
Not over estimating the Japanese I know the risk I would be running now I have been in this position before and have went for it. If I attack outside of LBA now with only Wildcats for cover I will lose carriers that will put my min attacks back to 44 that is unnacceptable. I am well ahead of schedule at present and the only thing that worries me is your pilot training and I have plans to deal with that... Allies in 42 or early 43 can only attack in 1 of two ways 1. If they have surprise and guarantee no IJN involvement for 4 - 5 days (i.e. as per Tarawa I only attacked when I knew where KB was) 2. If they are within LBA range of P38's on LRCAP at minimum Anything else is suicide Wildcats v Zeroes is a waste of time for the allies and why compromise a mid - late 43 offensive by taking crippling carrier losses when there is no need. IRL the allies lost 2 carriers around Lunga against a cut down IJN Fleet post Midway after they had attacked with surprise. Why take that risk ? PAUK (last response): quote:
i understand.... i'm pretty patient guy, i can wait:)
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