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RE: 26th August 1943 - 6/26/2006 4:39:35 PM   
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27th August 1943 - 6/26/2006 11:48:39 PM   
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Hi all,

Mandalay has been reconned:

Ground combat at Mandalay

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 140429 troops, 1137 guns, 982 vehicles, Assault Value = 3374

Defending force 283894 troops, 1746 guns, 420 vehicles, Assault Value = 4922


Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2

Not too bad. I have 4 more units defending my supply lines NE of Mandalay and 2 x ARM units 120 miles away. As is I have a further 2 x IND Bde's en route = 120 AV. I plan to wear him down here with LBA. I'll keep an eye on his strength levels.

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SS Stingray sank AK Asakaze Maru in the narrows between Borneo and Sulawesi.

SS Bluefish hit AK Teibo Maru twice with a torepdo NW of Tori Shima.

SS Harder missed the freighter Aobasan Maru 180 miles SE of Okinawa.

SS Steelhead (LOL. More future company references ike in PZB's game) missd ML Katsuriki 120 miles NW of Tarawa.

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1 x SC arrives tomorow.

My Australia based Operation Kestrel forces will leave tomorrow. The arms are beginning to move towards their destinations.....

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28th August 1943 - 6/27/2006 12:54:23 PM   
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Hi all,

A good day in transport hunting:

The British submarine Trident put 2 torpedoes into Tatsuho Maru 180 miles ENE of Palembang. 43 men were reported lost as well. DD Minegumo attacked Trident but caused little damage.

SS Stingray hit Maya Maru with a torpedo inbetween Borneo and Sulawesi. 22 men were also reported lost. The escorts managed to land some DC's near Stingray causing moderate damage and flooding. She is to return to Darwin.

Confirmation was also received of an AK, AP and a TK sinking due to submarine attacks.

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CV Wasp should receive her Hellcat complement tomorrow.

2 x AK, an LSD and a DE arrive at San Francisco tomorrow.

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29th August 1943 - 6/27/2006 11:50:12 PM   
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Hi all,

As predicted by the Quartermaster CV Wasp received her Hellcat complement today. That leaves CV Essex, CV Hornet and CV Enterprise to receive theirs. As mentioned before though I am NOT going to wait for this. Time is off the essence.

I'll wait a couple more days for last minute R & R and last miunte supply convoys to arrive at PH and then I form the fleets and set sail for Baker Island.

I've been analysing available ships and it's pretty good on the Capitol Ships front. ALL CV/CVL/CVE will be combat ready. 3 older BB will not be (Tennessee, Mississippi, California) BUT 10 x BB will be active in total (6 new, 4 old). I am thinking of using all of these in bombardment groups.

I have all but 2 x CL ready for combat. The cruiser force was boosted by the mixed CA/CL force I moved from Sydney over the past month. As such I will use these to cover my CV's and for use with the BB's/Transports.

My prediction, and it may be wrong, is that Faber will probably not react to my invasion with naval forces. He still has a potent force left but it has been detrited and Tarawa is NOT crucial to him IMO.

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SS Kingfish got in on the action today hitting the fuel laden TK Kyuei Maru 300 miles north of Pagan. I believe this to be the same TF SS Apogon attacked (and hit TK Itsukushima Maru which sank today) 4 days ago.

SS Trident launched the last of her fish at MSW W.8 180 miles ENE of Palembang. 1 hit blowing the large MSW apart. She is to return to Columbo. She is being replaced by SS Trusty.

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Many air raids on Mandalay today. In total 870 men, 19 guns and 1 AFV were confirmed destroyed today.

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30th August 1943 - 6/28/2006 9:49:41 PM   
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Hi all,

My main combat fleets assembled in the evening hours of 30th. It's time to move to Baker Island and then into enemy territory.

I have assmbled 4 x CV and 4 x BB divisions for bombardment:

CV1 - Lexington/Saratoga/CVL Independence/CVL Princeton + 3 cruisers + 7 DD's
CV2 - Enterprise/Hornet/CVL Belleau Wood/CVL Cowpens + 3 cruisers + 7 DD's
CV3 - Wasp/Essex/CVL Monterey/CVL Cabot + 3 cruisers + 7 DD's
CV4 - Bunker Hill/Intrepid/CVL Langley + 3 cruisers + 8 DD's

BB1 - West Virginia/Nevada + 5 cruisers + 7 DD's
BB2 - North Carolina/Washington/Alabama + 5 cruisers + 8 DD's
BB3 - Idaho/New Mexico + 5 cruisers + 7 DD's
BB4 - South Dakota/Indiana/Massachussetts + 5 cruisers + 8 DD's

Also en route to Baker Island are 500,000 tonnes of fuel, 150,000 tonnes of supply + additional airgroups to support the area.

The transports fleets will follow to Baker in a few days time.

I'm going to create a new moon landscape in the Gilberts

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Also with September nearing some new goodies arrive:

Thunderbolt II's
P38J's
P47D's
F5C's
B17G's
B24J's
Yak3D's

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As for today. Intense bombing of Mandalay by Allied LBA.

Also a PG was blown up - PG Nikkai Maru by Sailfish 240 miles SE of Okinawa

AP Tatuho Maru, hit a couple of days ago, sank today at Palembang, 155th IJA BF men were rescued.

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RE: 30th August 1943 - 6/28/2006 10:01:27 PM   
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Damn Speedy, you're just a brute. What did those poor Japanese do to you?

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RE: 30th August 1943 - 6/28/2006 10:07:45 PM   
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On the paper, it is a huge force, but don't you fear the air coordination penality with a task force including 2 CV + 2 CVL ?

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RE: 30th August 1943 - 6/28/2006 10:44:38 PM   
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Mike - pffftttt......you know......Faber called me a sissy..........

Jean Bart - not overly if i'm honest. At this stage of the war and with the forces arrayed I feel the penalty will not overly affect operations. Haven't heard from you here before. Have you been following throughout?

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31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 12:13:27 AM   
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Hi all,

A fairly quiet turn today with no sub contacts and bad weather preventing most air operations.

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It's a good feeling to have the fleets sailing again

74th Aviation Rgt boarded at PH today bound for Baker Island = to support further squadrons from there.

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SS Flasher (what a great name), an MSW and an LCI arrive at San Francisco tomorrow.

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 12:40:17 AM   
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Speedy, there's a pretty good book called War Fish. Can't remember who wrote it but he ended up being the commander of the Flasher and I believe he had the record for tanker tonnage sunk in one patrol while her commander.

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 12:48:14 AM   
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Thanks Mike

Hope he can emulate it!

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 12:49:41 AM   
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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 12:55:04 AM   
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Me no Fanboy. Stay Puff is a fanboy through and through. I'm a WW2 gamer and WW2 reader/researcher.

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 1:18:55 AM   
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Yes, I am reading your AAR with great interest.

I am in quite same situation in my current PBEM., playing July43, regrouping my forces to launch THE offensive and to challenge the KB.

One thing I notice is that you have great successes in your sub warfare.
What about the japanese ASW, are they not hunting down your submarines ?

Good luck !


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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 2:40:07 PM   
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Hi Jean Bart,

Good to hear from you.

As for the Submarine Warfare - I class that and ASW as my best assets in WiTP play. I pay attention to all of my subs, where they are, what they attacked and where etc. As soon as I see any hint of ASW assets being deployed I relocate etc.

Faber does deploy a lot of air assets to ASW and does have some ship based ASW forces. He doesn't deploy a LOT of ship based assets - as in if I spot a sub I immediately deploy assets to hunt for it - but he has some dedicated groups about.

How have things gone in your game? Any CV battles etc?

Meant to add - during the last day a British ASw force sank I-10 120 miles SE of Trincomalee. Bye bye sucker

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 5:49:28 PM   
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Well, I lost Saratoga in Sept 42 when IJN, including KB was cruising around Noumea.
I thought I had a chance with my 3 CV, Yorktown, Lexington and Saratoga, since my TFs were not noticed from enemy.
I made an excellent move to be 4 hexes to enemy TFs, with LBA support from my air forces based in Noumea.
On the paper, it was a good plan…. But unlucky I was, bad weather conditions prevented all air activities in New Caledonia…
Truly, my CV could not match the enemy forces…  I managed to land a couple of bombs on 2 IJN CVs but without real effect.
In return, my CAP had been butchered by zillions of zeros, and all 3 CVs were seriously damaged.
By miracle, I managed to return to Noumea, where my fighters prevented some unsuccessful tries from KB to finish off my flattops in port, causing severe losses in the enemy carrier air force.
Flooding being repaired, Yorktown and Lady Lex returned to San Francisco, after a long trip (All Fijis are in Japanese hands). I decided to scuttle Saratoga since she was 99 sys….
Japan 1 – US 0
Lesson: Never attack KB in 42….
 
In May 43, getting more and more confidence, I thought about getting a foot back in the Fijis, setting up a force to land in Wallis Island. My forces were escorted by Wasp, Enterprise, and Hornet …
Suddenly, full KB appeared from nowhere, and launched a massive air strike against my CVs. It was a total surprise; my Air TFs did not even fight back. Hornet and Enterprise hit the Pacific bottom…..
Japan 2 – US 0
Lesson: Do not plan any offensive action if you don’t where KB is located….
 
It is now mid July 43:
I hold strategic location: Canton Island, Baker Island, Midway, New Hebrides and all Aleutian’s islands.
Japan: All Salomons
My opponent believes I will attack in the Gilberts. Tarawa and Makin Island should now be garrisoned with 2 Div, 2 Brigades, 2 Naval Guard units, a bunch of artillery and coastal guns units each behind lvl 9 fortification….
In other hand, my remaining CVs/CVLs/CVEs are in process to be equipped with F6F fighters.
 
Next move will certainly be very bloody
 
In New Guinea, Australians have landed (3 Div, 3 ARM rgt, 2 Brigades, ++) in Port Moresby and fight for months now to regain the base which is defended by 2 Div, 2 Brigade and other units. Good thing, these units are starving to death after a heavy bombing campaign.
But I learned a new lesson: When Japan wants to hold some base it is very difficult to kick them out, making me reluctant to attack in Gilberts…
 
In comparison, I am less successful in my sub warfare. I manage to hit some cargo ships, but most often they are isolated target. My opponents does not spread his merchants all other the map, and I have difficulties to locate his convoy. He has deployed also very good ASW flotillas of several PCs/PGs/APDs ( APDs are really deadly). These flotillas are docked in all small islands in the Pacific with lot of air assets on naval search/asw. As soon as one of my subs is located, you could be sure the next turn, they are hunting down by Japanese ASW.
Lesson: do not patrol closer than 4 hexes from an enemy base.
(Re, all my subs are in cruise speed, and when they reached 8 in dmg sys, I return them to PH for refit)
When reaching the patrol area, how do you set the speed (mission speed or cruise speed) ?
I know there s a thread on this subject, but in regard of your successes, I d like to know your settings….
 
 
So now you can understand my great interest in your AAR, as we are almost in similar situation in Central Pacific, and I will certainly learn in your future actions…
 
Good luck chap !

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 6:26:43 PM   
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Hi Jean Bart,

Thanks for the summary. Interesting reading.

So did you start a 41 Campaign or a 42A/42B Campaign?

I'd still be very wary in your position. It does seems worse off than mine (no aspertion on your gameplay here I add). As such I guess you need to be very careful where you strike and maximise it. I think in your situation I would wait to be fully equipped with Hellcats and wait for Bunker Hill/Intrepid. I can now see why my situation is of interest to you.

One thing I have noticed, and this could well play a big part on the number of successful submarine attacks I obtain, is that my submariners are all pretty skilled nowadays after lots of successful attacks. Most are between 65 and 85 experience day/night. I always leave my submarines at default speed - mission speed.

One thing I have noticed from my game is that since I haven't penetrated his defensive barrier as yet I have no airfields in range for me to apply my HUGE air armada upon him. Once you have that first base then he has had it. You occupy, bring in air assets, control the air in the area, bomb the crap out of your next target, invade rinse and repeat.

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 7:10:49 PM   
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…. And you did not the worst part…
I have been swept like dust in China….
Only Chungking remains in chinese hands. Japanese army is camping the city for years now ( I play the 41 scenario). But it seems that, despite being outnumbered, out of supply and daily bombed, my forces can still manage to turn down enemy assaults.

Yes, I ll wait for end of august when all my squadrons will be equipped with Hellcat before daqring showing my face again.
Thanks also for your reply regarding the sub speed settings. I will switch default speed from cruise to mission speed and let you know (positive) results.
I have also noticed that sub crew experience is very important, and despatch my less experienced crew to area where Japanese ASW is less aggressive.

Just a remark, when Baker Island will be in your hands, beware that airfield can only reach a lvl 4 size. Thus cannot be fully operational for your heavies.
Tarawa is 9 hexes away, and at max limit of your P38 fighters. Makin is 1 hex further…. Thus landing Tfs cannot be protected by LBA LRCP….
For your information, in my game we agree on following house rules: Only US Navy squadrons based on CVs (thus no VMF Corsair squadrons) and Heavies are not allowed on Naval attack mission, in order to avoid some strange and unrealistic results like bunch of B17/B24 sinking the all KB…

But stop talking about my game, this is your AAR,
Let your story continue !!!

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RE: 31st August 1943 - 6/29/2006 7:28:58 PM   
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Hi Jean Bart,

No problem.

Just so you know I already own Baker Island. I just plan to use it to cover fleets moving to and from Tarawa + to stock planes that can be transfered to the captured Gilbert bases.

I too have the same house rule on CV's - No VMF Corsairs.

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1st September 1943 - 6/29/2006 11:25:43 PM   
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Hi all,

September is upon us.......and my submarines continue to do me proud:

SS Paddle evaded a destroyer screen and sank the empty transport Koshu Maru #3 with 2 torpedoes 420 miles SE of Amami Island. DD Hatsushima tracked my boys and landed some well placed DC's causing some minor flooding. My submarine out of fish is returning to Midway for R & R. SS Hake despatched to replace her.

SS Seawolf surfaced during the daylight! She had detected a lone freighter, Hinode Maru. She lined herself up and 3 out of 4 torpedoes hit home sinking the ship in a short space of time.

SS Grunion fired at TK Amatsu Maru 180 miles SE of Tarakan but the fish missed.

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Here's the latest intel update with a new month occuring:




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2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 1:00:31 AM   
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Hi all,

My Cv's are about 1/2 way to Baker Island now. The screenie below shows them in transit........

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In the meantime the only action is my LBA attacking IJA troops at Mandalay on a daily basis and my lovely submarines:

SS Pompon blew the tiny MSW Wa 13 out of the water east of Mindanao.

SS Pompano sank the empty transport Kashiwa Maru 120 miles SE of Jaluit Island. 2 out of 2 torpedoes hit home

Pompano is 1 of 4 additional submarines posted around Tarawa to interdict enemy traffic before the invasion.

SS Wahoo absolutely destroyed the empty transport Meigen Maru when she surfaced and hit her with 4 torpedoes + gun shells as she quckly sank beneath the waves 180 miles SE of Okinawa.

SS Puffer en route to a position inbetween Sulawesi and Borneo found and hit the loaded AP La Plata Maru with a torpedo. PC Fukue used her 'advanced' ASW weaponry to land some nearby projectiles causing 8 SYS damage.

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2 x AK and an LST arrive at San Francisco tomorrow.




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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 1:04:01 AM   
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Holy Cow, Speedy!

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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 1:06:09 AM   
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Death to Faber Mike. There will be no mistake this time. I will stay around until everything is dead or has surrendered

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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 1:12:59 AM   
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Down here in the southron regions of the USA, we would call that a "whoopin stick".

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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 12:24:05 PM   
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Interesting little tidbits. Over the past month:

Points:

Japanese + 506 points
Allies + 677 points

Planes:

Allies lost: 166 planes
Japanese lost: 189 planes

Troops:

Allies lost 81 points
Japanese lost 227 points

Ships:

Allies lost 1 ship - AVD for 6 points
Japanese lost 27 ships - 237 points. All of these are from my submarines. Good work lads

Some context on this. It's been a very quiet month overall with me resting and preparing for my next offensive. As such almost all of the plane losses for me have come from ops and a few from flak.

Most of his losses are also from ops but about 60 of them will have been accounted by my British Corsairs during the Palembang raid.

Troop losses are interesting. He has lost almost 3 times as many as me which shows the effect the land and air bombardments have had in Burma.

Of course this next month will have a lot more air losses when my CV's move towards Tarawa......

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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 1:41:48 PM   
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how many subs on station ??
IMO it is more than excellent result?
do you have ideas why ?
what is japanese doctrine, convoy density, convoy size and escort ???

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RE: 2nd September 1943 - 6/30/2006 2:14:26 PM   
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Hi Sneer,

Let me tally this up from my mind. I remember where most of my subs are and some of their names etc................

In the SRA I have:

South China Sea - 9
Borneo/Sulawesi region - 4
Okinawa/Luzon/Mindanao - 12

Pacific:

Central/East Phillipine Sea - 5
Bonin's/Mariana's - 12
South Pacific - 4
Kuriles - 3

Total submarines: 49

I have about 50-60 in Darwin/Midway/Columbo my submarine bases.

I do focus on sub warfare which probably helps my results. As such I tend to look at my sub positions every day. I move them frequently if they are not finding the enemy or if Faber has moved in some heavy ASW assets. I have also tracked the routes he uses for convoys etc which helps in placement/planning.

My subs are also well trained now with the majority in the 70's experience. This must help.

As for Faber's convoys I am not sure on TF size. He is rarely (if at all) shipping individual ships. His resource/oil TF's tend to be escorted by MSW/PG/PC (some of the newer Fukue type are now active) where as his AP TF's tend to have fleet destroyers in them. He seems to regularly be moving stuff around since my submarines are almost spotting something somewhere on a daily basis.

I have noticed he rarely has more than 5-8 escorts per TF.

Over the past 4 months he has implemented a lot more air assets to ASW. These planes appear to be based in Palembang/Formosa/Okinawa/Morotai and throughout the Mariana's/Iwo Jima. They have hit maybe 4-5 submarines in that time - 1 a month on average I guess.

Whenever I receive 2 x SS I move 1 on patrol and 1 to either Midway or Darwin.

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RE: 26th August 1943 - 6/30/2006 2:36:33 PM   
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i my game i'm able to inflict losses to allies and force them to leave important sectors
fukae class PC are very good in H-K groups
I don't think I lost >20 ships to subs during whole 18 months
you have impressive results with subs - probably close to historical ones


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RE: 26th August 1943 - 6/30/2006 2:53:13 PM   
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Hi Sneer,

Agreed. The high ASW value ships (PC Fukae/APD class) and high experience ships (Fleet Destroyers) + aircraft can kill Allied submarines. I have found that playing as the Japanese (especially in my game vs swift. In that game he has totally halted submarine operations in favour of sub minelaying missions).

I believe the key to ASW success and on the flip side submarine success is EXPERIENCE. Also key with surface ASW groups is a skilled and aggressive commander.

As mentioned in this game my submarines are very skilled now. That coupled with SJ Radar, correct placement, constant shifting does lead to success.

As another example of experience making a difference in a game versus Pompack I am Allies upto end of July 1942. My submarines have NO SJ Radar yet and are between 55-65 in experience. I am placing them and moving them among his shipping routes but achieve few attacks. Pompack is hunting more aggressively, compared to Faber, but due to me moving submarines about hasn't sunk many either.

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RE: 26th August 1943 - 6/30/2006 3:46:43 PM   
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Just occured to me NOT all 27 Japanese ships were sunk by subs - 3 of these (1 x TK and 2 x MSW) were lost to RN Avenger's at Palembang. That leaves 24 sunk by submarines.

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