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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/28/2006 11:01:22 PM

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/28/2006 11:01:57 PM

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Woohoo. New page and Graycompany just sent me a turn. Bye everyone.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/28/2006 11:14:19 PM

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the above is an example of minimalist posting.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 12:21:12 AM

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I just sent Terminus a turn. We may get 3 turns in today

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 12:53:10 AM

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Waiting on Terminus for a change instead of vise versa

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 1:27:29 AM

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I'll bet he's playing with the remote.........

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 2:20:38 AM

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Don't need to anymore...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:16:55 AM

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Countdown to homeward bound commute tithe....

Man was Mynock right about the 2 Monday week.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:17:22 AM

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Don't need to anymore...

Pink haze they call it.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:19:08 AM

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Spam time....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:19:26 AM

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So I have a day off tomorrow....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:19:53 AM

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Gonna go to my local community college and see if I can revert to being a student.....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:20:37 AM

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I wanna get my NY teaching certificate and go see if I can ruin some impressionable young minds with my versions of history.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:21:00 AM

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I know that Major Mike said that academia doesnt pay that well.....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:23:23 AM

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But from where I sit, it would beat the living daylights out of a 3pl call center.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:25:16 AM

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Also, the state pays, or helps pay, for a whole, entire Master's Degree.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:27:07 AM

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From what I understand, the program requires a BA in the subject you plan to teach, a few courses of Phych, and then an entire battery of tests for final certification.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:28:13 AM

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I'm not sure how the student-teaching span of it works (aka is it paid or not), but as I understand it, it may take as fast as one semester to get all that covered.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:28:29 AM

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Here's hoping, anyway.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:30:22 AM

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So, maybe, perhaps, hopefully, by next fall I could be a certified history teacher in one of the fine schools of Long Island NY. Yeah, right.....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 3:45:43 AM

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My wife is a public school teacher and I was considering doing the same (History teacher) when I retired. Then she told me about all the BS of teaching to the dumbest kid in the room. As a Darwinist I feel that it is my job to present the information well and it is the student's job to learn it. I can't deal with a system that makes 75% of the teacher's time go to the lowest 20% of the kids while the smart ones are neglected.

I would not last long. Maybe I could be a stuffy, nasty, college history professor.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:18:06 AM

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Oh boy oh boy, a debate about the educational system in the US.

Look out I could talk for hours about this. My ex was a secondary math teach (an exceptionaly good one) and an active member of the teachers union (I'm staunchly not in favor of unions). We debated and discussed it for hours.

Onime, my two cents is that I think teaching is an incredibly noble profession, but something that should be entered into with great care. To be really good takes a lot beyond the basic certifications and the first couple of years can be really tough, while you are building your library of resources. Most teachers, after they have taught a while have a lot of material to work with and it takes them little prep time for each class, but in the beginning it is a ton of work.

From what I have seen, the pay isn't good, but the industrious teachers find ways to make additional money over the summers and in their spare time. My ex wrote math texts to make extra money.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:25:43 AM

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My wife is a public school teacher and I was considering doing the same (History teacher) when I retired. Then she told me about all the BS of teaching to the dumbest kid in the room. As a Darwinist I feel that it is my job to present the information well and it is the student's job to learn it. I can't deal with a system that makes 75% of the teacher's time go to the lowest 20% of the kids while the smart ones are neglected.

I would not last long. Maybe I could be a stuffy, nasty, college history professor.

RUPD, in Colorado they have an experiment going on in classrooms. In a couple of schools they have done away with AP classes and put all the kids regardless of level back into the same class room. The teachers are then told (and trained) to teach to the level of the advanced kids, not the ones that are struggling. The early results show that kids regardless of level all benefit from this model. The AP kids learn at least as much, plus they are encouraged to help the other kids, which gives them a little bit of leadership training also. The slower kids benefit from having the bar set higher. When its set low the kids work less hard to meet the lowered expectations, but when its set high the kids, while not always meeting the raised expectations, try a lot harder and usually end up further along. It seems really promising so far.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:26:52 AM

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Teachers in NJ make good money. With her masters and 10 years experience my wife makes nearly the same base pay as I do as a Sgt with 18 years experience. Not bad for only working 10 months a year. She also can easily make $50-60 per hous tutoring.

Of course thanks to my overtime (400hrs+ per year) I still wear the pants in our house. She just tells me which ones to wear.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:28:00 AM

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Expressionist posting

I don't see it. Am I just not hip enough?

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:31:34 AM

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Onime, sounds like you have some stuff worked out. However, if you are needing a cure for insomnia, I recommend a short hand out I used to give my career coaching clients. Here is the link http://www.atasearch.com/personalmissionstatement.htm

It's not really intended as stand alone reading but who knows it might provide a different point of view.

The model in the handout is based on rock solid research by a business guru, Jim Collins, that he wrote in an excellent book called "Good to Great" about how organizations should determine what they are good at doing. When I read it I realized it could just as easily apply to individuals in career transition.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:32:56 AM

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I don't see it. Am I just not hip enough?

Nah, just not nerdy enough.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 5:35:18 AM

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Teachers in NJ make good money. With her masters and 10 years experience my wife makes nearly the same base pay as I do as a Sgt with 18 years experience. Not bad for only working 10 months a year. She also can easily make $50-60 per hous tutoring.

Of course thanks to my overtime (400hrs+ per year) I still wear the pants in our house. She just tells me which ones to wear.

Most teachers I see make a really good middle class living after just a bit of time.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 6:43:11 AM

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Teaching is something you must absolutely love in order to do it properly.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 11/29/2006 7:04:21 AM

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Thank you guys.

I think I have a fairly realistic idea of how thankless and frustrating teaching can be. I also have a good idea of how rewarding it can be.

On balance, however, I think I'd be of more use to society and myself by trying to pass on what I know of history rather than pushing computer hard drives around the globe. Myself, I have always been a demanding student. I always made my teachers work for a living by bombarding them with questions, asking them to explain things outside the curriculum, forcing them to raise the bar and generally being a pain in the butt. I would like to see how that looks from the other side.

My biggest problem, I think, would be to teach the lifeless, wattered down history I remember from my of school. Its not that the teachers were bad, its just that history was being presented in the following manner:

There were these indians, then Columbus discovered America, and the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. Right after that, there was the Boston Tea Party and the British immediately surrendered. Then the Germans sank the Lusitania and we won WW2 all by ourselves by dropping an A-Bomb. Then, after that, there was the Cold War, but we wont have time for that this semester.

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