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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 7:53:29 AM   
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RT, is the Canadian pilot in the photo Flight Sergeant (later Wing Commander) James Francis "Stocky" Edwards, DFC, DFM? He flew in Spitfires as well as Kittyhawks.

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 1:05:09 PM   
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Som RCAF guys in alaska 1943..... (I think Umnak Airfield)
(14th Sqadron Commander Bradley R Walker)
more about 14th Sqr: http://www.rcaf.com/squadrons/1-100series/14squadron.php





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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 1:46:32 PM   
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RT, is the Canadian pilot in the photo Flight Sergeant (later Wing Commander) James Francis "Stocky" Edwards, DFC, DFM? He flew in Spitfires as well as Kittyhawks.



Rats, i don't have the guys name right now (i am at work, it is at home) but it *might* be as it was supposed to be some highly decorated pilot. For some reason i can't find the pic on the site i thought i got it from.

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 1:51:47 PM   
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Som RCAF guys in alaska 1943..... (I think Umnak Airfield)
(14th Sqadron Commander Bradley R Walker)
more about 14th Sqr: http://www.rcaf.com/squadrons/1-100series/14squadron.php







Ooh - this looks familiar!!!

Good find, grossmetzger!!!!

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:20:51 PM   
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Excellent, We were all wrong

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:23:37 PM   
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the find was quite easy but not the translation...
http://avia-hobby.ru/publ/alaska/alaska.html

later i found the rcaf page.....
http://www.rcaf.com/archives/archives_general/aleutians/index.htm

cheers, béla

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:28:01 PM   
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the find was quite easy but not the translation...
http://avia-hobby.ru/publ/alaska/alaska.html

later i found the rcaf page.....
http://www.rcaf.com/archives/archives_general/aleutians/index.htm

cheers, béla



Well, the text under the photo at the Russian site translates to : "Pilots of the 14th squadron RCAF before the combat mission. O.Amchitka, the spring 1943" according to Babelfish...

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:31:40 PM   
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the proxyserver of the place i´m at the moment has a problem with babelfish... so i had to use a online dictionary...
thank god they allow matrixgames

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:41:47 PM   
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Not completely - maybe we got the model right. KittyHawk I or US equivalent (see short horizontal gap between prop spinner and radiator scoop. Earlier models had a bigger gap.)

Although 14th squadron had Kittyhawk Mk Is, as did 111th which was at Umak beforte it, 111th then moved to Amchitka, nine USAAF P'40K-1s were acquired as replacement aircraft in August 1942 (these operated in RCAF markings but with USAAF serial? and were handed back in June 1943).

So maybe its actually a 111th Sqn aircraft, although 14th Sqn elements did stage forward and undertake missions with 111th.

Actually it could be a Kittyhawk I: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk 1 at the Canada Aviation Museum, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.








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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 2:51:30 PM   
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Som RCAF guys in alaska 1943..... (I think Umnak Airfield)
(14th Sqadron Commander Bradley R Walker)
more about 14th Sqr: http://www.rcaf.com/squadrons/1-100series/14squadron.php



Cool. I didn't know the RCAF operated any units in Alaska. I knew those helmets were RAF style. I was very wrong about the location though.

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 4:15:33 PM   
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Plenty of RCAF were involved in the Aleutian campaign...

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/18/2007 7:09:44 PM   
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my portugiese is not that good (not existant)
but i think half way down this site they show a kittyhawk with sharks theeth and say it´s from the 14. in alaska just before they moved to europe becomming the 442. sqr.
they say the "p" beneath the spinner is the squadron sign....
http://www.ipmscuritiba.com.br/nova/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=113

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/19/2007 3:38:20 AM   
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RT, is the Canadian pilot in the photo Flight Sergeant (later Wing Commander) James Francis "Stocky" Edwards, DFC, DFM? He flew in Spitfires as well as Kittyhawks.


OK - just remembered to look this up - the photo is of W.D. Brown
http://www.mts.net/~royb/wdbrown.html

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/19/2007 3:56:21 AM   
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my portugiese is not that good (not existant)
but i think half way down this site they show a kittyhawk with sharks theeth and say it´s from the 14. in alaska just before they moved to europe becomming the 442. sqr.
they say the "p" beneath the spinner is the squadron sign....
http://www.ipmscuritiba.com.br/nova/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=113


It looks like they are talking about restored P-40s. #18 is one I actually worked on 20 years ago. Bill Destephani inherited the family farm in Bakersfield, CA and used the profits to fund his airplane jones. In the mid-1980s he restored a P-40 and I volunteered to do some work on it.

He also races at Reno with Strega, a modified P-51.

Bill

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/19/2007 4:22:13 AM   
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WOW!

Think of all the pictures taken during WW2.  And this is not a famous action photo.  Probably thousands like this one out there, and you guys found it.  My hats off to everyone for the sleuthing.

Will let him know tomorrow.

Thanks again,



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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/19/2007 5:55:11 AM   
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Right. Jonsey..I want you to go down to the end of that bench..DON'T LOOK YOU IDIOT...come on man..so you go down to the end of the bench and do a button hook. Goose, I want yout to do a 5 step post and
clear out the deep guy. Johnson..I want you to do a slant from the Right..you are the go to guy. Billy and Wojohoski..you keep that big Samoan SOB out of my face...got it?

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RE: OT: Need help IDing a WW2 picture - 1/19/2007 1:55:26 PM   
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Right. Jonsey..I want you to go down to the end of that bench..DON'T LOOK YOU IDIOT...come on man..so you go down to the end of the bench and do a button hook. Goose, I want yout to do a 5 step post and
clear out the deep guy. Johnson..I want you to do a slant from the Right..you are the go to guy. Billy and Wojohoski..you keep that big Samoan SOB out of my face...got it?




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