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How to mess up japan, course 101 BigB Mod vs Aztez - 3/18/2007 10:29:48 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		Righty ho. turn done and sent to Aztez .

Japans initial invasions will be :-

PI

linguyan
Naga
cagayan
Davao
Jolo

No messing about with the smaller traditional NE bases .. cagayan to clarke before he can evac the
north would be nice.

Malaya

Mersing
Khota baru
Para drop on victoria point

Mersing to attempt to cut mayala in 1/2 . Khota baru for the airfield

DEI

Amboina covered by a CVE
that NW base on borneo (terrible memory)

just the 2 for now

SW PAC

just one small base north of rabaul for a level 1 AF.
I find that the troops in truk cannot take rabaul against good play. so no point trying yet.

Central Pac

Wake .. bumped up the invasion by 2 naval guard
Tarawa (small units)

So nothing major or abusing the 1st turn move system as far as i can tell .


KB will strke sngapore !

why ? well i find that POW and repulse can be a real pain for the DEI advance. ALso means i have the
CV's on hand where i want them most and DEI is a priority target along with malaya. I'd have liked
to have tried a central pacific advance but it's just way too risky for me.

so so many things to go wrong and so so many daft dispositions. china is a royal mess. i'm going to
try and clear out the chinese behind my lines 1st while holding the front defensively untill i
can muster enough force and have a safe rear area. There are some really interesting new cities
in china ( will screenie later).

1st impressions of playing japan for the first time is rather daunting to say the least. I have
tinkered with japanese production for the obvious tasks i.e convert nate-oscar. increace zeros a bit
and reset recons a/c to dinah's. with the Pete being a float fighter now it's not a given to
convert them over utomatically, the LR cap ability could be massively useful in deterring unescorted
strikes. Time will tell so i am still producing the full range of float planes for now.
Transport a/c will consolidate down to tabbys and L3Y's. I have kept open the hickory production
as i believe japan needs 36 at least to allow reinforcemnets to arrive later on.

Hant done anything with ship production as turn 1 does not seem to allow me to tinker with that
for now. however shinano will be stopped and 3 CV's accelerated. The rest will looked at in a few
game weeks as there is so much to try and do at the start.

anyhoo, we are running the the following house rules :-

House rules





1. Only 1 port strike on turn one.

2. The maxium number of ships at ASW TF is 6.

3. Minium altitude for 4E bombers on naval assault is 15 000 feet.

4. No changing HQ units in order to save PP.

5. PP must be paid for Manchuko and Chinese units in order operate out of their theatres.

6. Maxium number of operational aircraft on non atoll base: level x 50

7. Maxium number of operational aircraft on atoll base: level x 20 (Truk and Kwaleijin will go into x50 rule)

8. Maxium of 8 CV's in an hex. (4 CV's + 4 CVL/CVE ships)

9. If Japanese go for USSR than the Soviets need to be activated 7 turns before the assault.

10. When transfering aircraft long ranged bombers need to be on standby orders. This does not apply to fighters.

11. Only base hexes can be targeted on amphibitious invasions.

12. Pursue command in ground combat is banned for both sides

All seem to be sensible ones and any issues that crop up can be sorted out between us in an
amicable manner. ust remember to ask him about ariel mining , just noticed its not on the list.

I got so engrossed spending 5+ hours doing turn 1 that i forgot to take any screenies , sorry.

fingers crossed for turn 1 !

< Message edited by Rob Brennan UK -- 3/19/2007 6:20:07 PM >

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/18/2007 10:46:00 PM   
LittleJoe


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Status: offline 		Having KB in the DEI also gives his Cv's around Pearl Harbour a free reign to interfer with your Wake operation in particular, just an observation. Somthing that i've always wanted to try with Japan, is to place the Kido Butai imbeteewn the West coast and PH would cause a lot of disruption to the Allied buildup and a chance to sink a few divisions worth of troops and maybe some warships.

You can crush the Allies in the DEI with land based air, but in the pacific the Carrier is king.

Good luck.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/18/2007 11:48:42 PM   
Cpt Sherwood

 

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 1:50:39 AM   
ny59giants


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Status: offline 		Good to hear Rob!!
Once I can afford a newer computer, I will join you and try my luck with the "dark side" in a PBEM. 
I will use your AAR of what "not" to do....LOL!!!

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 2:06:53 AM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		Hi all .. Cpt Sherwood .. my mistake we are playing Big B's mod which neither of us have even tried before and we havnt looked at the enemys startup either so its a real FOW ..

Little joe .. wake fell ! and the combat ships are running at full speed back to kwajelien just in case his CV's come calling . i felt the KB in the DEI will speed up things a lot. and stop annoying allied SC forces from interfering too much.

NY59Giants . good luck with the new puter, its a whole new ball game playing as japan .. really nail biting if im honest.

Brief update as i don't have time tonight to do a full one (tomorrow for that).

POW sunk
Repulse sunk

and absolutely no torpedoes were launched from the KB kates over 2 days . thank god for the 800kg bomb !

all invasions happened bar one near rabaul (failed to load).

more tomorrow ..

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 6:59:48 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		Okay here is some more turn one details:-

Malaya

Kohta baru airfileds Were targeted with little or no result from the japanese indo china based
bomber force. 18th Division landed here with little incident and will shock attack next turn
to try and quickly get the base. A large aviabion regiment awaits at bangkok with shipping for
transfer across the straights.

Giamond harbour had a lucky escape when most of 1st parar landed and assulted the base at 3-1 odds.

Ground combat at Victoria Point

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 521 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Defending force 684 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 44 - adjusted assault: 21

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0



Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

2nd para will load on the tabbys and fly in tomorow to try and secure this useful northern base.

2 japanese divisions will march on burma , and will take tavoy/moulmein and possibly rangoon. before
we can move up men from malaya for an approach to mandalay and sea invasion of akyab. After that its
the burma army's job to close the burma road and delay allied attacks in depth if possible.

I was thinking about an indian adventure but i see that india now has additional home defence units
and would be a tougher prospect (although i have no idea what these home defenders are like). anyway
taking india is for a much more experienced japanese player than I to try and accomplish. and
i salute all those who have done it.

The landings at mersing have gon off well, despite lots of small allied raids the worst of which
was 2 wildebeest attacking the BB Kongo (missed). Leaky CAP form KB and a few ineffective petes
did little but maul the occasional blenhiem. Again shock attack ordered here and with 3 tank units
2 brigades and a full inf devision along with heavy artillery we are poised to cut singapore off from the rest of mayaly (fingers crossed).

KB attacks on singapore :-

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
D3A Val x 135
B5N Kate x 143

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 11 destroyed, 52 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 11 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 7 destroyed useful
Swordfish: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Bomb hits 21, on fire, heavy damage
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 41

no torpedeo hits at all, makes kate flak losses alot less and n the end torps arent required.

day 2 attacks

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
D3A Val x 118
B5N Kate x 129

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 7 destroyed, 25 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 6 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Swordfish: 2 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage SUNK
BC Repulse, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage SUNK
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Jupiter, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 72
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 1

again no torpedo attacks , most strange .. still kate losses are quite acceptable. Tomorrow
KB is to hoover up the java sea then see if the allies send in ships to amboina or return to
singapore (possibly split and do both). and ensure NOTHING gets to help singapore and equally
nothing gets out ! .. need to bag those troops. the tankers should be in saigin by then so they can
keep the CV's near malaya at sea almost indefinately. the southern 1/2 can easily re-fuel
at Palau.

The nells at saigon were also on port attack singapore, wish i hadnt bothered as both days were
a complete poinless waste of time and effort. both attacks identical. i had upped the altitude
to 20k ft where i though they could not launch torpedos .. some few still did

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
G3M Nell x 92

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 12 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port hits 1

annoying .. you'd have thought that the experince and numbers would have done more ..



Philipines is a straight forward divide and conquoror strategy // san marcelano to clarke at speed
to cut off the northerern PI units for later. 2 divisions should have landed at legaspi and naga
in the south. only the naga landings happened, the legaspi convoy will unload tomorow. shame as i
was hopeing to trap the legaspi infantry/base units there but it appears they can escape now. no
biggie. Naga looks 2 well defended for one division to take on its own. will await the new one then
advance on manilla.

Davao/san marcelano/jolo amboina will all be attacked tomorrow. jolo and amboina have AV support with them so can fly in planes soon and close down the PI escape routes. Baby KB to be assembled
in formosa. is to be used to initially hit fleeing british/american ships then cover the less
threatened landings on borneo/sulawesi.

Hong kong looks tough. :-

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 31596 troops, 325 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 540

Defending force 13261 troops, 122 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233

Japanese max assault: 704 - adjusted assault: 468

Allied max defense: 256 - adjusted defense: 1501

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
337 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

yikes do NOT like the look of that allied adjusted defence. this might take quite some time as i
cant move the 2nd div down from canton as chinese units everywhere ! .. i have attacked 2
of these rogue chinese behind the lines to discover they are "guerilla" units and not the
static ones i was expecting. managed to morce one to move onto the darn rail lines all
by myself while the attackers wallow in paddy fields

Ground combat at 51,35

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17837 troops, 206 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 383

Defending force 743 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Japanese max assault: 504 - adjusted assault: 408

Allied max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 204 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

I'll screenie all relevant theatres next post . sorry it was so late last night i felt i had to
send the turn back to Aztez before commenting.

Elsewhere .. Wake falls when 2 more naval guard arrive, the initial one would have failed so
just as well . In case of allied CV's all combat CL's and DD's sent at full speed back to
kwajelien. Ak's can risk unloading supplies. (plenty more of them). The 18knot pre-WW1 CL will
remain to be more attractive to allied planes and she is a pile of junk imo.

Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5635 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Defending force 1996 troops, 38 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Japanese max assault: 310 - adjusted assault: 191

Allied max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
321 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
2315 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 1

Japan has sent a reserve inf div to palau, where it can go either to Rabaul or sulawesi/timor
anyone have any comments about which might be a better option for now. ?

ok piccies next . promise

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 8:25:05 PM   
Miller


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Status: offline 		Hi Rob, I will be following this AAR closely as I am about to start the same scenario as the Japs. I nearly had a heart attack when I loaded it up just to have a lot at the dispositions of my forces. Where the hell to begin?

My other game is as the Allies using the same mod, only into late December but everything looks good up to now (A2A especially).

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 8:42:24 PM   
pauk


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Status: offline 		oh, Rob now you are finally and officialy on the right side

Hm... are you sure that invading India wont be a good solution? I mean - if you brought KB in the SRA you should 'exploit' that and use KB to cover landings in India...ASAP (you don't need to conquer all India, but Ceylon, Madras and then eastern India should be doable?)

I do not know about IJA units dispositions in BB mod but lets try it. How about:

1. after Singapore attack, raiding with KB in southern SRA... once when you capture Singapore (and you should capture Sing soon after you invade Mersing - at least that is how it works in the stock) load troops and invade Ceylon

2. After the troops are disembarked at Ceylon bring back KB and support landings at Java, Timor etc... (or you may even split KB and conduct both India and SRA invasions in the same time )

the rest is upon you

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/19/2007 10:24:15 PM   
tiger111

 

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This AAR is going to be good.....

Where do I find the BigB mod . Can`t find it in Spookys. What DATE is the posted mod??

Ta very much.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 12:16:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Diamomd Harbour before turn three seems a little ambitious- good luck is you make it.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 12:21:33 AM   
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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 1:18:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Go for Timor over Rabul, Timor can be turned into a mini fortress, Rabaul is just a death trap if Aztez decides to fortify it.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 7:44:11 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		Miller - thanks for the comments , glad to hear i'm not alone with gawping stupidly at japanese dispostions, the fact the mods holding up well after a year is great news. thanks and good luck on your up coming game too.

Pauk , your advice is always welcome. you might be onto soemthing regarding indian adventure, but not at the expense of the DEI or creating a pacific perimiter./ lets see how quick i can take singapore.
I have been turned to the dark path afterall


auguatus .. yes its on spookys ( i had to look twice).

Wolfie. diamond harbour was in range of the paras by fying in tabbys asap as the current troops
transport a/c didnt have the legs. as it happens a small tank unit and base force are closing
rapidly on land so it was a bit of a wasted effort. almost almost got it turn 1 .. i made the
msitake of thinking that flying in a new unit would trigger a shock attack . didnt happen.

CT- you have no idea how many times i did that on setting up turn 1 , i still see green tf's
and try clicking on them

Little joe . i'm with you about timor , as i like to try and fortify it too, so best to play
against what i'd try and do i suppose is as good a guide as anything. Rabaul seems quiet for
now. jap RO class sub patrolling and 27 nells now in truk for any allied adventure. i'd like more
zeros but they are needed else where for now.

Well what can i say about the last turn ( and i got screenies). NICE ! (unless your dutch)

lets start at the beginning though.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

The remnants of the RN came out fighting at mersing . CL Danae put up a very brave show and
was only sunk on the 10th by nells out of saigon . the cheeky brits stayed and bombarded the japanese
landing beaches ! but at a terrible price. no japanese ships badly damaged.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 23,49

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna
CA Takao
CA Atago
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
CL Danae
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Vendetta
DD Tenedos, Shell hits 52, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA atago made it personal !
DD Electra, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Express

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 23,49

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage might make it back.
DD Asashio
DD Oshio, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage will in alllikey hood go down
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 4
DD Vampire, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1
DD Tenedos, and is sunk
DD Electra, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Express

Naval bombardment of Mersing, at 23,49 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 5
DD Vendetta
DD Electra, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Express

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Clarke gets lightly hit again , not much need to keep this up as the road to here is open
now.

Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
G3M Nell x 6
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 21

Dive bombing HK isnt a good idea !

Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged


The british DD;s from HK attempted an open water interception a bit too close to formosa :-.
Was a waste imo.

Day Air attack on TF at 46,45

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 7
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N Kate x 6
Ki-27 Nate x 28
Ki-30 Ann x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Scout
DD Thracian, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Day Air attack on TF at 46,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
B5N Kate x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thracian, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thanet, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Thanet sank, thracian is limping bdly back to HK. only scout made it home in one piece.


San marcelano also came to the attention of the USN sailing from manilla. the ASW group did
remarkably well imo .

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3
DD Inazuma, Shell hits 3
PG Akitsu Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PG Chiyo Maru
PC Ch 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Shell hits 2, on fire
PG Asheville, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PG Tulsa, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
PT PT-31
PT PT-32, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-41

The SC CL led group did well too .. all combats are daytime rather than night. allowing the PT's
to get whittled down.

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 1
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame, Shell hits 4
DD Harusame, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1
DD Samidare, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Peary, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pope, Shell hits 2, on fire

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Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo, on fire
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame, on fire
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PG Isabel, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tulsa, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PT PT-31, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-41, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

That went well , the transports bar one AP group have unloaded and are steaming back to formosa.

However my elation was abruptly brought down to earth by the CA houston attacking the landings
at Jolo. no sign of the boise anywhere yet.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 38,59

Japanese Ships
PG Tatsumiya Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Ch 7, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kasuga Maru, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AP Syoka Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Tatuta Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 3

The land attacks made it up though. several key bases taken ( i was over cautious on several
as i had no real idea of the defending numbers ) Guam excluded see later ..

Ground combat at Amboina

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11362 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174

Defending force 1923 troops, 18 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Japanese max assault: 356 - adjusted assault: 386

Allied max defense: 35 - adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Amboina base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Jolo

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5441 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 118

Defending force 642 troops, 5 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 242 - adjusted assault: 115

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 57 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!!



Allied ground losses:
1154 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28041 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 542

Defending force 1857 troops, 9 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese max assault: 1128 - adjusted assault: 1326

Allied max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 147 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
863 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 51,38 CHINESE GUERILLAS.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34460 troops, 407 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 738

Defending force 703 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese max assault: 806 - adjusted assault: 566

Allied max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

I have attacked several guerilla bands in china . am i just unlocking them for aztez to use
or are they non-static to begin with? a little house clearance seemed in order before taking on
bigger prey in china.

Ground combat at Mersing

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 36602 troops, 449 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 586

Defending force 5644 troops, 53 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Japanese max assault: 1014 - adjusted assault: 592

Allied max defense: 89 - adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 39 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mersing base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Guns lost 15


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 47121 troops, 555 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 922

Defending force 511 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 1986 - adjusted assault: 2550

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 637 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE San Marcelino base !!!



Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Davao

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9063 troops, 76 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 227

Defending force 3390 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese max assault: 190 - adjusted assault: 78

Allied max defense: 91 - adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Davao base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 20933 troops, 258 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Defending force 10894 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Japanese max assault: 984 - adjusted assault: 354

Allied max defense: 147 - adjusted defense: 75

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1795 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 1044 troops, 2 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Japanese max assault: 53 - adjusted assault: 14

Allied max defense: 13 - adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Blasted Guam ! i knew it was better than stock but this ! .. ugrgh..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41

Allied subs from manilla and java are starting to make thier presence felt , no real attacks
and japanese escorts keep thier heads down.

Speaking of subs , the japanese subs originally near PH were moved out turn 1. about 12 are
standing off the american coast. while several more have been sent to the south and SW Pacific.
dual duty. convoy attack but also to act as scouts where i don't /cant have float planes.

The Danea finally dies :-

Day Air attack on TF, near Mersing at 23,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Express

Then KB spotted several dutch task forces at soerbaja ( as i was hopeing this caught Aztez
completely off guard and cost him a large chunk of the dutch navy) . fortunately the CAP
was pathetic else the unescorted strikes would have been costly.


Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 22
B5N Kate x 21

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SUNK
CL Durban, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 22
B5N Kate x 24

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged


Allied Ships
ML Gouden Leeuw, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
ML Krakatau, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


I LOVE sinking mine layers!

Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 28
B5N Kate x 19

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 8 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied Ships
DD Van Nes
DD Evertsen
CL Java, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
D3A Val x 35
B5N Kate x 48

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Banckert
CL De Ruyter, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage SUNK
CL Tromp, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage will sink i hope
DD Witte de With, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Tomorrow KB will stand off soerbaja with main target being TF's secondary Soerbaja port to be hit
in an attempt to finish off any cripples. lets hope that the dutch air force does not contain many
suprises

Nell or betties have been sent to jolo/davao/kutching . amboina needs more supplies 1st. also
along are zeros as house rule i cant activate bombers the same turn as transferring. however
as the airfield icon will light up , fighters can and have been sent forward to prevent allied
bombing for free. Mersing recieves oscars/lily and sally bombers along with some sonias.
(this should prevent allied supply ships).

after a 4-1 attack on day 1 khota baru saw off the japanese ( 2 day turns do that ).

Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 20660 troops, 245 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 435

Defending force 10509 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Japanese max assault: 840 - adjusted assault: 44

Allied max defense: 118 - adjusted defense: 87

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
966 casualties reported OUCH
Guns lost 31
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

It got worse too, japanese crossed a river in china and were slaughtered. having nil intel
will cause that to happen i suppose. Actually i have never seen an attacker retreating before.
never even know it happened ? quite thankful really a the /b brigade is at 0% readyness. its
a mess with a capital MESS.

Ground combat at Pucheng

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 12468 troops, 147 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 274

Defending force 18374 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 460

Japanese max assault: 330 - adjusted assault: 24

Allied max defense: 491 - adjusted defense: 964

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)


Japanese ground losses:
2991 casualties reported HOLY CRAP!
Guns lost 46
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported

here is south china .. where Pucheng is ! .. you can see the huge changes to the chise map
and more importantly the disposition of the chinese and japanese forces.







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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 7:47:29 PM   
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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/20/2007 9:51:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heres a sight that most japanese players would wince at ! ..

DD Kagero badly damaged then sunk by LBA on the way to saigon .






Phew ,, wet trouser moment there

Night Time Surface Combat at 24,63

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CL Abukuma
DD Akigumo
DD Kagero, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Urakaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Tanikaze
DD Arare
DD Kasumi
DD Akebono
DD Sazanami
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
PT TM-4
PT TM-5
PT TM-6
PT TM-7
PT TM-8
PT TM-9, Shell hits 40, and is sunk

DD scout came out from HK and actually did some damage over 2 days , she must be in ruins
by now though :-

Night Time Surface Combat at 46,46

Japanese Ships
MSW Banshu Maru #56, Shell hits 2
MSW Choun Maru #6
MSW Choun Maru #7
MSW Choun Maru #18
MSW Choun Maru #21
MSW Hinode Maru #20
MSW Musashi Maru
MSW Rokko Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Toshi Maru #2
AK Atlas Maru
AK Hoeisan Maru
AK Kosei Maru
AK Kotoku Maru
AK Mansei Maru, Shell hits 1
AK Okitu Maru
AK Pacific Maru
AK Soyo Maru
AK Sydney Maru
AK Takaoka Maru
AK Yamagiku Maru, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hokuzan Maru
AK Chuko Maru

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Shell hits 7

She ran into an ASW TF too, damaged an APD unfoprtunately (she should recover).

Day Time Surface Combat at 44,48

Japanese Ships
APD APD-31, Shell hits 1, on fire
APD APD-32
PC Ch 19
PC Ch 20
PC Ch 21, Shell hits 1
PC Ch 22

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Bombers found her too :-

Day Air attack on TF at 44,48

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Bomb hits 1, on fire


and again day 2 :-

Night Time Surface Combat at 42,49

Japanese Ships
APD APD-31, on fire
APD APD-32
PC Ch 19
PC Ch 20
PC Ch 21
PC Ch 22

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage SINK DAMN YOU

KB did what i asked of it , but the air commander decided that sending escorts to soerbaja
wasnt necessary ! and sent them to open ocean instead , cost me several kates !

KB flattened 2 large convoys coming into soerbaja (one carrying men). and hit the port
with great results, finishing off the dutch CL's and several DD's .

Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 42
B5N Kate x 48

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 5
Brewster 339D x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged
B5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 6 damaged


Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AS Colombia, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Durban, Bomb hits 1
CL De Ruyter, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Banckert, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Piet Hein, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Java, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Van Nes, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Day Air attack on TF at 24,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
D3A Val x 36
B5N Kate x 54 escorts here !

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Rochussen, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Sigli, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Pieter de Bitter, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Landsberge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Loa Koeloe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Toendjoek, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Parigi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Abraham Crijnssen, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sinabang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Senang
AP Van Overstraten, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported nice

Day Air attack on TF at 24,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
D3A Val x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Senang, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Toendjoek, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Neck
AP Van Overstraten, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported


Day Air attack on TF at 24,65

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Van Overstraten, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Senang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sigli, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Landsberge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported


Day Air attack on TF, near Pamakasan at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 56
B5N Kate x 43

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Modjekerto, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ban Ho Guan
AK Soerabaja, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Duymaer van Twist, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tjisaroea, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Benkalis, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
D3A Val x 28
B5N Kate x 17

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 6
Brewster 339D x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 5 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP Van Neck, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AP Rochussen, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sigli, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Loa Koeloe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sinabang, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 85
B5N Kate x 119

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 4
Brewster 339D x 3

Japanese aircraft losses NO BLOODY ESCORT AGAIN
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
B5N Kate: 8 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Java, Bomb hits 23, on fire, heavy damage
CL Durban, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
DD Evertsen, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Van Ghent, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Piet Hein, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Van Nes, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AS Colombia, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 1
DD Banckert, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

KB to go back to saigon for fuel ,, lets see what to do with her after that.

Surface combat off san marcelano in the philippines was no less intense today either.
DD satsuki was operating experimental torpedo magnet technology

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-33
PT PT-34, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-33, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

At least thats the last of the PT's here .. i hate them even more now im playing Japan.

DD Pope remained for some action too.

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Satsuki, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
DD Pope, Shell hits 1, on fire

Our new SC TF did good service and finished the poep off

Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
DD Pope, Shell hits 24, on fire, heavy damage

DD's peary and pillsbury also showed up , and got hit hard by the very AP's that they were supposed
to be attacking .


Night Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
MSW W.7
MSW W.8
MSW W.9
MSW W.10
MSW W.15
MSW W.16
MSW W.17
MSW W.18
MSW W.19
PC Ch 3
PC Ch 13
PC Ch 14
PC Ch 15
PC Ch 16
PC Ch 17
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 32
AP Aki Maru
AP Anyo Maru
AP Anzan Maru
AP Arizana Maru
AP Arizona Maru
AP Burisuben Maru
AP Chowa Maru
AP Hanakawa Maru
AP Hawaii Maru
AP Husimi Maru
AP Jinsan Maru
AP Kamo Maru
AP Karachi Maru
AP Kasima Maru
AP Keisho Maru
AP Koyo Maru
AP Kumagawa Maru
AP Matsukawa Maru
AP Maya Maru
AP Oigawa Maru
AP Oridono Maru
AP Ozan Maru
AP Sanko Maru
AP Satsuma Maru
AP Shinko Maru
AP Shirogane Maru
AP Tutukami Maru
AP Tensyo Maru
AP Tenyo Maru
AP Tenzan Maru
AP Terukuni Maru
AP Tohuku Maru
AP Tsuyama Maru
AP Ueizuru Maru
AP Unkai Maru #6
AP Waura Maru
AP Yasukuni Maru
AP Yosyu Maru
AP Palao Maru
AP Kikuryu Maru

Allied Ships
DD Peary, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

I was wondering where Boise and marbehead were, well they showed up off Davao. The japanese
CL group i 1/2 expected to get slaughtered. survived rather well.


Night Time Surface Combat, near Davao at 41,61

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 2
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 8, on fire
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 2
CL Boise, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Alden
DD Barker, Shell hits 1
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall, Shell hits 1
DD John D. Edwards
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Parrott
DD Whipple
DD Stewart

Meanwhile the submarine war started with japanese I boat sinking an american MSW near
Pago Pago .

Sub attack at 91,113

Japanese Ships
SS I-20

Allied Ships
MSW Kingfisher, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SUNK

Meanwhile at midway RO boat found some US BB's .. well one anyway . the sub will sneak out of here
after 2 attacks she's having a charmed life ..

ASW attack near Midway at 95,61

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Reid
DD Shaw
DD Mugford
DD Helm
DD Blue
DD Bagley
CL Honolulu
CL Helena
CA San Francisco
BB Pennsylvania

TAvoy, Legaspi and Victoria point fell too. so all is going well (ish) so far.





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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/21/2007 10:19:09 PM   
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Pretty quiet 2 days

The land based a/c at mersing announce thier arrival with an attack on the remnants of the RN
floating serenely near singapore .

Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 22
Ki-27 Nate x 24
Ki-51 Sonia x 15
Ki-48 Lily x 12

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Buffalo I x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 2
DD Express, Bomb hits 1

Meanwhile the betties at jolo and davao finish off the american DD's trying to return to the relative
safety of Manilla

Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Peary, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Peary, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Both sank shortly afterwards. 2 AK's and one TK also caught running for it and sunk
by ariel torpedo .. looks like the CA houston might have gone to manilla ? maybe.
Meanwhile CL marblehead avoids 9 betties and manages to shoot down 2 with Flak. Not good .
Shes fleeing toward java and was found just south of Borneo.

A serious issue has arisen in China ! .. canton has been invested by a large chinese force.
I dont know if they can actually take the place but forts are being built just in case.
HK looks like a stalemate .. my bombardments shattered the japanese artillery and did nowt
to the british .. i'll try a shock attack with the engineers to try and get the forts down.
but im not too optomistic

Also the japanese tanks ran too fast ahead of the infantry to clarke field and are now broken
badly.

Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35465 troops, 247 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1065

Defending force 1880 troops, 0 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 74

Allied max assault: 1114 - adjusted assault: 813

Japanese max defense: 75 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 813 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
700 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 73

Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 2


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able
to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya
and by the looks of it , china.

As an example of how good the a2a model seems this attack on manilla bay :-

Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M Nell x 12

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Kanlaon II, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Looks like wake is going to get clobbered by the US BB's . regretting not sending at least
some CV's to the Pacific. That could have been a serious mistake. Also fast discovering that i
should have sent out a LOT more fuel and supply on turn 1 .. some shortages predicted in palau
at least. Oh well its a hard learning curve playing japan for the 1st time in 2 years and not
checking the mod out 1st .. idiocy or a challenge , you decide





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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/22/2007 12:29:05 AM   
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Looks like wake is going to get clobbered by the US BB's . regretting not sending at least
some CV's to the Pacific. That could have been a serious mistake.





Hate to say i told you so.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/23/2007 12:58:22 AM   
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Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able
to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya
and by the looks of it , china.


I'm playing scen 192 - the extended map version of this campaign. You should find two 'southern area' Inf Divs in China - one in Tientsin and one in Shanghai. Thats probably where your missing infantry are. I use the turn 1 move to get enough APs there to load up on turn 2.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/24/2007 12:18:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/13/41

Khota baru will get some supplies over the next couple of days (much needed). then we should be able
to finally take the place .. I seem to be utterly short of infantry . need more in the PI/Malaya
and by the looks of it , china.


I'm playing scen 192 - the extended map version of this campaign. You should find two 'southern area' Inf Divs in China - one in Tientsin and one in Shanghai. Thats probably where your missing infantry are. I use the turn 1 move to get enough APs there to load up on turn 2.



Now thats something i'd have liked to know at the start but far better late than never .. thanks

Little Joe - S%% off

apologies for the delay . real life getting in the way sadly .. actually it was great ..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41

Battleships hit khota baru (prior to another ground attack)
and Cagayan (where hit b17s were last turn ,, but not today it seems )



Night Time Surface Combat, near Cagayan at 42,59

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CA Myoko
CA Nachi
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze

Allied Ships
AK Magallanes, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Japanese Ships
DD Kiji
DD Kari
DD Kasasagi
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
770 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 31
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 13

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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 42,59

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio
CA Nachi
CA Myoko
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 16
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2

both reasonable results and got a damaged AK of the way to cagayan as a bonus.

Japanese sub RO-61 braaved heavt ASW escorting the BB's and while failing to get a firing
solution managed to survive 4 ASW attacks with minimal damage (back to truk).

Both Vendetta and electra are still floating off shore from singapore . not sure why he hasnt
disbanded them into port yet ? .. electra was subk day by sallies and vendetta takes several
small 100kg bombs from lilys .


estroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 8

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Electra, on fire, heavy damage

Found the USN Carriers the hard way too

Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 11
SBD Dauntless x 66
TBD Devastator x 27


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31

Frankly thats good as it means i can safely start to gobble the gilberts (tarawa apanapma ?
and nauru are already mine , i'll grab baker too with a NFL unit just to be difficult.

Jolo sent out 2 strikes vs a damaged AK in manilla bay .. the US fighters were formidable as
i suspect my altitude was too low .. upped to 16k for tomorrow .




Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 23
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Latouche, heavy damage

Failed AGAIN at guam .. supplies check .. not prepped obviously .. why the massive drop in AV ?
Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2282 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 1276 troops, 3 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 112 - adjusted assault: 4

Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
471 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Hong Kong lost a fort level fortunately . BUT i cant get supply here now as canton is besieged.
chinese attack at canton was repulsed easily (luckily).

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 29100 troops, 301 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 547

Defending force 13117 troops, 112 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Japanese max assault: 1160 - adjusted assault: 333

Allied max defense: 255 - adjusted defense: 229

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 7


Japanese ground losses:
455 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Ground combat at Canton

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 37786 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1219

Defending force 40272 troops, 258 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 459

Allied max assault: 1208 - adjusted assault: 89

Japanese max defense: 507 - adjusted defense: 6685

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
1849 casualties reported
Guns lost 41

Naga lost 2 fort levels (rest tomorrow) teh extra div was a necessity .
also Alor star falls .. got the base forces to retreat anyway.

Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41784 troops, 508 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 879

Defending force 13237 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 377

Japanese max assault: 868 - adjusted assault: 386

Allied max defense: 381 - adjusted defense: 239

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
952 casualties reported
Guns lost 31
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Ground combat at Alor Star

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17189 troops, 286 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 431

Defending force 4747 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese max assault: 424 - adjusted assault: 846

Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Alor Star base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 6


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

I'll split the 5th division in alor and try and forcea surreneder at georgetown by severing
the rail lines .



And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the
heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back
to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) ..

also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being
routinely ignored by the ground commanders

Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26953 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 689

Defending force 2916 troops, 0 guns, 192 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Allied max assault: 666 - adjusted assault: 327

Japanese max defense: 107 - adjusted defense: 133

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35295 troops, 252 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1050

Defending force 15831 troops, 237 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 294

Allied max assault: 1105 - adjusted assault: 542

Japanese max defense: 284 - adjusted defense: 32

Allied assault odds: 16 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1503 casualties reported
Guns lost 65

Allied ground losses:
574 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 6


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Sigh ! .. the PI campaign is NOT going to plan at all .. oh well .. just have to fight on ..

The kendari invasion force loads up on 20 AP's with base units attached .. only one CVL to cover
it ,, but zeros can fly from amboina when it gets closer to the target.

piccie of the PI .. my bane








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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/25/2007 5:21:17 PM   
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Anyway , on with the war ..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

Subs have been active off the US West coast and in the DEI .. also one RO class got run over
by the allied big boys .. she is fine though.

ASW attack at 86,61

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Reid
DD Shaw
DD Mugford
DD Helm

Sub attack at 129,62 US WEST COAST

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
TK Admiral Wiley, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Sub attack at 26,67 DEI .. between borneo and Java

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
AK Pasir, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SINKS

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Sub attack at 26,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
AK Siaoe, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SINKS

Japan again forced back from clarke , this hasn't gone to plan at all , 3 successive waves
been beaten off .. fortunately a new division is landing at san marcelano to beef us up
a bit ..

Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34655 troops, 225 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1003

Defending force 22055 troops, 307 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 439

Allied max assault: 1033 - adjusted assault: 755

Japanese max defense: 413 - adjusted defense: 164

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
602 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 2


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41


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Sub attack at 29,27

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, hits 1

Allied Ships
TK Francol
PG Auricula
PG Freesia

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ASW attack near Aparri at 46,49

Japanese Ships
MSW Mejima Maru
MSW Asahi Maru #2
MSW Aoi Maru
MSW W.20
APD APD-37
APD APD-36

Allied Ships
SS Perch, hits 6 A BIT DAMAGED I THINK .. leaking oil and fires on the bridge

Combined raid on manilla finally hit the US air force in the phillipines pretty hard and
should make the point that manilla is NOT a safe port ..



Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 33
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-35A: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Capillo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW Finch, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Anakan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

We will continue this tomorrow too and try and decimate the US Warhawks once and for all.

2 more allied merchants hit by 2 ariel torps trying to escape the PI (one left in that TF).
KB has had to be split according to our house rules (4C+4CVL max). Agaki, kaga, soryu and hiryu
will head back to java as lots of allied shipping being siighted by our LR patrol planes.

As an aside i LOVE the japanese search planes, makes catalinas look utterly obsolete.

2ND KB . with the 2 remaining CV's and one CVL are heading through the philipines to meet up with
the 2nd jap CVL at palau (she is currently covering the kandari invasion TF). Then possibly
down to truk/rabaul unless needed for Timor operations .. I'd like to have at least some CV's
in the pacific to scare off and allied attempts to grab wake back quickly.

bye for now .. piccie of a tanker burning off the US coast .




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And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the
heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back
to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) ..

also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being
routinely ignored by the ground commanders


Just an observation here -
I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22.
There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly?

Good luck,
Brian


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ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41





And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the
heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back
to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) ..

also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being
routinely ignored by the ground commanders


Just an observation here -
I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22.
There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly?

Good luck,
Brian



Hi big B .. many thanks first up for all your hard work.

We both went into this mod blind, i.e without loading up as the other side. So frankly i went
ahead with the only model i had (stock) for invasion planning etc. the sheer number of new
units at clarke was a suprise i admit BUT IF all my troops had arrived at the same time then
i think i'd have held off a 2-1 and retreat (albeit it might have been tricky , depending
on whats left in manilla) .. Naga's well defended too ..

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 33
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-35A: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed


Hi Rob,

Just curious about this air battle - were all of those P-40s destroyed A2A or were some killed on the ground?
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And - yeah, the stock game dosen't prepare you well for what to expect. Learning by experience is the school of hard knocks to be sure.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/25/2007 8:05:49 PM   
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being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown
over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired .

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air as the raid was against the port only .. seem too high to you ?
being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown
over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired .

It seemed on the high side to be sure - but here is what I said on Aztez's AAR:

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ORIGINAL: Big B

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ORIGINAL: aztez

As for your question all those losses were air to air combat related.


Ahh, well - a couple of observations about the game engine I found from testing many many hours:
1) He currently has max benefit of the Zero Bonus (as we all know).
2) His Zero squadrons are around 70 experience (if they are land based) to your likely 55 experience.
3) He probably came in two groups of around 20 Zeros each - to I am guessing - your 3 squadrons of about 11 each and one squadron of 6 P-40Bs. That would mean in combat he takes them on individually with at least two to one odds (yuch).
4) the game engine has a BIG random factor per air battle - that about 18% of the time delivers a good whipping to one side (I have never found a way around that one, don't think it can be done without re-writing the hard code).
5) I have no idea how fresh each sides pilots were - but that really weighs in, (and also - LOW Morale can be your friend when at a disadvantage in air combat because your guys won't stick around to be slaughtered).

Put all those factors together... and occaisionally everyone gets spanked pretty hard.

Sigh... Carry on!

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/26/2007 9:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Big B , my fighters were pretty tired to be honest. iirc.

Khota baru is starting to be a bit of a pain. the BB's rolled up and started to shell the place
with good results imo.

Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Isonami
DD Asashio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
CA Suzuya
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 35
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 2

I've landed some small NLF to bump up the AP a tad .. also diverting a division to songhika
(from burma) to support the 50th in its southerly drive.

Think i also got my 1st submarine kill .. plenty of ineffective ASW and dud torps (allied).

ASW attack at 47,46

Japanese Ships
PG Tamo Maru #7
PG Tamo Maru #6
PG Takunan Maru #8
PG Takunan Maru #3
APD APD-38
APD APD-35

Allied Ships
SS Sargo, hits 8, heavy damage

The reduced KB found by chance the very best of whats left of the allied ships in the DEI.
Marblehead sank instantly after 4 torp strikes and CA houston went down soo after . BANZAI


Day Air attack on TF at 21,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
D3A Val x 32
B5N Kate x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CL Marblehead, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bulmer
DD John D. Edwards

Follow up attacks heavily damaged 2 more DD's .. recon reporting a lot of allied CA's ? at
batavia . KB to move up and see whats happening (kates on 2ndary port attack at 16k alt).

Day Air attack on TF at 21,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A Val x 21
B5N Kate x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Whipple
CA Houston, on fire, heavy damage
DD Parrott, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese sub blockade of the west coast nets a 2nd laden tanker .

Sub attack at 28,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
TK Empire Unity, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground attack on khota baru .. why ? oh well we will attack tomorrow to take advantage
of the allied disruption, heavt attacks from sallies from thailand have badly damaged the
indian brigade and definatel stopped its recovery from this !

Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11208 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Defending force 32146 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 505

Allied max assault: 103 - adjusted assault: 9

Japanese max defense: 524 - adjusted defense: 1005

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
591 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


many attacks on chinese guerillas have, i think, eliminated one .. otherwise the annoying gits
are retreating all over the place as japan tries to clear up its lines of communication. i am
persuing these annoyances all over china .. see piccie .

As just so japan does not think im asleep in the SW Pacific :-

Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kashima
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 41
Port supply hits 1

Japanese fighter sweep over manilla fails miserably .. should have been 40 odd oscars and 40
some zeros , only 12 oscars make it , and die horribly .

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 28
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 damaged


Sub attack at 142,53

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
TK Alfred Clegg, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Another tanker

Also had a bit of a scare when allied torpedoes hit the CA Maya (duds) phew !

Sub attack near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS Pike, hits 1


Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2333 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 1356 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17


Deliberate attack tomorrow ! Guam is proving an annoyance


Allied AV in hong kong looks way down .. also no counter fire today. attack tomorrow to try
and reduce the forts another level .. Canton seems safeer for now ..

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1746 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 509

Defending force 12943 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233



Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

all for now ..




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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/27/2007 4:26:28 PM   
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Once again the oscars fly to Manilla , but this time in much better numbers and the results
reflect it.


Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 37
Ki-21 Sally x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 5
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 5 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Its difficult to decide what to do at manilla, Aztez has ships in port and at sea so its
way too east for some high morale units to fly into the jaws of P40 death. just see how well
nates cope :)

Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 7
Ki-30 Ann x 17

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 7 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Latouche, heavy damage
AK Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage


annoying i admit . humm not sure what to do , except go onto 100% naval search and hope for the
occasional bomb hit ? .. then again when they target somewhere out side manilla its results
as expected.

Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 17
Ki-30 Ann x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Far Far better.. have to think on this .

anyhoo . allies are regretting the khota baru attack yesterday as japan takes advantage
of the allied mistake.

Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515

Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392

Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Guam finally fell too .. at long last


Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2421 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 1376 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 56 - adjusted assault: 60

Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
730 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

also kuala lumpur falls to the 5th divisions drive down the malayan west coast. although the
brits took alor star back (however briefly)


Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515

Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392

Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


Japanse arent upto taking johore baru yet . about even on AV .. but the jap shelling (with 4
artillery brigades ) is taking its toll on the defenders.

Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 28209 troops, 448 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 606

Defending force 31366 troops, 255 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 720



Allied ground losses:
221 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Unfortunately the fly in the ointment was hong kong. losses were light however but no forts taken
down .. sigh .. might be here for a while

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28445 troops, 269 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 512

Defending force 12923 troops, 104 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 232

Japanese max assault: 517 - adjusted assault: 411

Allied max defense: 251 - adjusted defense: 1581

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)


Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Meanwhile KB and betties from malaya damage and sink about 7 AK's and AP's
seemingly doing something on the sumatran west coast ? wonder what ?
and KB Kates hit batavia port losing 4 to flak and finding the harbour empty.
We can be consoled that the zeros decimated the defending buffs and wirraways.

I suspect there is a large allied airforce in soerbaja so we'll give it a wide berth
for now (CV's anyway). and as we have already got the best of the dutch and now the
US surface units its only the boise on the loose and i think shes damaged (lightly).
KB to be on invasion duty and lesser KB to head to the pacific after the landings at
kendari . KB will frobably cover the next step which is a leap to timor.

KB location





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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/29/2007 6:17:49 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


Posts: 3685
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Status: offline 		Sorry for not updating for the 25th and 26th od december, both sides seem to have given the men
time off for christmas and nowt happened much.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/41

Periodic shelling of rabaul will hopefully prevent fort building and does cull the odd a/c


Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kashima
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 60
Port hits 1

In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 44
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 26
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 17
P-40B Tomahawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 10 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed

KB's coming here to drive the final nail in manilla harbour and decimate the allied a/c too.
I'd like to catch some damaged allied subs in port too. killing the AS would be a huge bonus.


Malacca falls to the 5th divisions drive south and the BF's retreat to kuantan, nice POW camp for
now . The allied get driven out of alor star by a pir of NFL units . these will block
the allies in georgetown for now.

Allied are over optomistic on ground assault and they try to remove the japs from moulmein,
all they have achieved is to guarantee a japanese assault next turn (2 divs +tanks +hq)

Ground combat at Moulmein

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21253 troops, 220 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 553

Defending force 47467 troops, 546 guns, 119 vehicles, Assault Value = 1048

Allied max assault: 475 - adjusted assault: 126

Japanese max defense: 1034 - adjusted defense: 524

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
829 casualties reported

KB i.e Kaga/agaki/hiryu and soryu will strike manilla port and will have port attack as primary
mission to try and avoid unescorted strikes. fingers crossed .. several SS reported in port.

Confirmed sunk the 1st allied sub tody too APD's hammered S-37 in the china sea. the japanese ASW
is slowly getting better. sallies and nells fly ASW have spotted many subs and even hit a few.



Guns lost 39

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/29/2007 6:52:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.


Something you may want to consider....

Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters.

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101 - 3/29/2007 9:17:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.


Something you may want to consider....

Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters.


good plan. KB failed to launch in both turns I've ramped up oscar production but its mostly
still repairing . nates are occasionslly doing the odd ground attack run in china. never seem to
have enough zeros to do everything yet .. still its early days and i will eventually fill out
the nome islands fighter groups and move them else where.

Anyhoo on with the story :-

Johore baru got its first taste of the sally today and runways badly damaged. he has no a/c
there but it will prevent fort construction.

Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 90

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 56

Japanese 1st attack failed miserably too. this is a big stack of commonwealth units and
will be hard to shift. although 3 more divs are in malaya mopping up/advancing etc. so
i should eventually have punch come mid january i guess. meanwhile the jap artillery
does hurt the brits.
Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66933 troops, 865 guns, 241 vehicles, Assault Value = 1379

Defending force 30047 troops, 216 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 647

Japanese max assault: 1309 - adjusted assault: 699

Allied max defense: 618 - adjusted defense: 1127

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)


Japanese ground losses:
1151 casualties reported
Guns lost 56
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
592 casualties reported
Guns lost 30


Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5225 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297

Defending force 29227 troops, 185 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 614



Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Hong kong was a similar story .. also getting runway atacks for the same reason. 1st attack at
least took a fort level down .. 2nd was bad , but thats 2 day turns for you.
Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28673 troops, 275 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 519

Defending force 12652 troops, 92 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 225

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Japanese max assault: 1042 - adjusted assault: 1658

Allied max defense: 225 - adjusted defense: 875

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 6


Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28301 troops, 266 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 500

Defending force 12648 troops, 93 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 222

Japanese max assault: 928 - adjusted assault: 334

Allied max defense: 185 - adjusted defense: 1063

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)


Japanese ground losses:
479 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

heres a list of japanese losses so far. about 2-3 not on the screenie and thay are AK's so no great
loss.







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