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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Usually, i will have at least a two-to-one excess of capacity - three to one is better... of course, this can be problematic if you are short of transports.

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ORIGINAL: apbarog

I had experienced a fragmenting problem for quite awhile, until I determined that it was something that I was doing. I would load my task force, see that it was completely loaded, set it's new destination and home port, and click Unload, so that it would immediately start unloading at its destination. The next turn, all or part of the unit would be back at the port of origin, and the task force will have left port.

I avoid this now by clicking Unload only after leaving port.

"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von Bülov, 1870-

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ORIGINAL: fokkov

It seems to me by experience that when you first replenish a tf and than order to load troops in the same turn that some or all vessel don't load any troops , same when replenish first , than disband and form new tf with the same vessels.

"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von Bülov, 1870-

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ORIGINAL: fokkov

It seems to me by experience that when you first replenish a tf and than order to load troops in the same turn that some or all vessel don't load any troops , same when replenish first , than disband and form new tf with the same vessels.

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ORIGINAL : Tallyho!

1. I always open the individual unit screen to see the real load requirement.
2. Allocate upto 50% extra ship capacity
3. Create small TFs to load 1 unit at a time - then combine them after load complete
4. Always set 'do not unload' before clicking 'load unit'
5. Never set destination until loading is complete
6. Never use a ship that has over 500 op points used for refuelling in port - prefer not to use ships that have refuelled at all

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ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

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ORIGINAL: fokkov

It seems to me by experience that when you first replenish a tf and than order to load troops in the same turn that some or all vessel don't load any troops , same when replenish first , than disband and form new tf with the same vessels.

I've seen the same thing, however, it can even be a TF with "0" op points. You hit "Load Troops", and nothing loads. What I've had to do is pull 1 AP (or AK) out of the TF and into it's own TF. That AP will now load. Put the AP back into the original TF and pull out another ship....repeat. Kind of a pain, but it works.

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ORIGINAL : Tallyho!

1. I always open the individual unit screen to see the real load requirement.
2. Allocate upto 50% extra ship capacity
3. Create small TFs to load 1 unit at a time - then combine them after load complete
4. Always set 'do not unload' before clicking 'load unit'
5. Never set destination until loading is complete
6. Never use a ship that has over 500 op points used for refuelling in port - prefer not to use ships that have refuelled at all

I use the same steps...especially #3...I only create ONE TF to load ONE LCU at a time and then combine. The program is a very poor Loadmaster.

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ORIGINAL: apbarog

I had experienced a fragmenting problem for quite awhile, until I determined that it was something that I was doing. I would load my task force, see that it was completely loaded, set it's new destination and home port, and click Unload, so that it would immediately start unloading at its destination. The next turn, all or part of the unit would be back at the port of origin, and the task force will have left port.

I avoid this now by clicking Unload only after leaving port.

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ORIGINAL: JeffK

Blimey, the trouble people go to.  Where do I get micromanagement for dummies, I'm missing something.

I create my Task Force, having an idea of what i am loading so i have enough lift points, select units to be loaded and then allocate the destination. The ships should be refuelde anyway.

Seems to work 99% of the time, any problems are blamed on the Wharfies and I try again next day.

IRL, loading takes so much longer than in WITP that a days delay means nothing.

I have few fragments, usually they are caused by panicking and rushing whatever I can to the front.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


For divisions, which can indeed be an issue, make your TF with Do Not Unload set and no destination. Load Only Troops and select your division. Once the "loading troops" goes away, check for a fragment. If there is one, make another small TF big enough for the fragment and Load Only troops. When it finishes, transfer the ships into the first TF and set your destination. Be sure to toggle Unload before it reaches the destination.

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ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

I have NO problems with loading under 1.804. Mind you I do have a process.

1. I always open the individual unit screen to see the real load requirement.
2. Allocate upto 50% extra ship capacity
3. Create small TFs to load 1 unit at a time - then combine them after load complete
4. Always set 'do not unload' before clicking 'load unit'
5. Never set destination until loading is complete
6. Never use a ship that has over 500 op points used for refuelling in port - prefer not to use ships that have refuelled at all

This may take a day or two longer but IT WORKS FOR ME

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ORIGINAL: mantill

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ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

I have NO problems with loading under 1.804. Mind you I do have a process.

1. I always open the individual unit screen to see the real load requirement.
2. Allocate upto 50% extra ship capacity
3. Create small TFs to load 1 unit at a time - then combine them after load complete
4. Always set 'do not unload' before clicking 'load unit'
5. Never set destination until loading is complete
6. Never use a ship that has over 500 op points used for refuelling in port - prefer not to use ships that have refuelled at all

This may take a day or two longer but IT WORKS FOR ME

I use Tallyho!'s method, except that I never use ships with op points. I have had only one failure to load properly using this method, an EAB in San Franscisco. But as Mynok says, in these cases the best thing to do is to form a seperate TF, load the fragment onto it and then combine with the parent's TF.

I also have trouble with TF's loadiung supplies sometimes. Quiet often they will half load and then just stop for no apperent reason. You can tell them to start loading again and this works fine.

It is an annoying little bug that's crept in. It just requires more micromanagment than usual to offset

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Also, as to TF load size requirements, why does the game give two different numbers, sometimes several thousand units different, on the summary screen and the LCU detail screen? Is the detail screen the accurate figure?

It doesn't make any sense, Admiral. Were we better than the Japanese or just luckier?

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ORIGINAL: pompack

I use a modification of both methods and I have not had a problem since:

1. Look in unit screen to deltermine true requirements for a single unit
2. Create a TF for that size plus 10% from ships with zero expended load points
3. Load unit
4. Repeat for all units to be loaded
5. Merge all single-unit TFs together, set destination
6. Monitor load status each turn, eyball remaining load capacity vice required loadpoints for each unit: Remember the plus 10% and if it looks tight (or you get in a hurry) create a one or two ship TF for each unit you want to "rush", order the load and then merge the little TF in with the big one.
7. NEVER,NEVER,NEVER disband a TF in the port when you are still loading; if you do and your TF stops loading the only way to prevent massive fragments is to unload everybody and start over (I learned that one the hard way)

Note that I never found it necessary to set "do not unload". Also I found that even with a 30% excess I still sometime had to add extra "rush" ships; since I had to monitor progress anyway I dropped the requirement to 10% (I never tried Tallyho!'s 50% excess)

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