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US IX Corp understrength? - 6/23/2007 7:53:53 AM

dtravel

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Plugging away at my game, mid May 1945 and the US IX Corp HQ has arrived. But instead of the usual 180 support elements of a US Corp HQ, it only has 90. And according to its TO&E that's all it is supposed to have. Huh? Why is this particular unit half the size of every other comparable one?

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RE: US IX Corp understrength? - 6/24/2007 4:51:02 AM

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I'm having a deja vu here...searching...searching...hmmm, nothing conclusive, but apparently it's a database error.

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RE: US IX Corp understrength? - 6/25/2007 5:08:11 PM

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quote:

instead of the usual 180 support elements of a US Corp HQ, it only has 90. And according to its TO&E that's all it is supposed to have. Huh?

Indian 17th & 23rd divisions seem to have a similar problem.(stock game).

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RE: US IX Corp understrength? - 6/26/2007 12:03:25 AM

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quote:

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quote:

instead of the usual 180 support elements of a US Corp HQ, it only has 90. And according to its TO&E that's all it is supposed to have. Huh?

Indian 17th & 23rd divisions seem to have a similar problem.(stock game).

Joe D.

I just looked at those two divisions in my current scn 15 game and they both have full TO&Es matching the other Indian divisions. I don't remember if they may have arrived at less than 100% (like every single one of the USN and USAAF BFs

) but they do flesh out to full strength.

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RE: US IX Corp understrength? - 6/26/2007 5:14:13 PM

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I don't remember if they may have arrived at less than 100% (like every single one of the USN and USAAF BFs ) but they do flesh out to full strength.

My Indian squad pool is empty. With India's huge population i would
have thought that recruitment would not be a problem for them.
The 23rd div.(which has not seen combat) is stuck at 67/67%.
The 17th is about 40%, due to combat losses. I don't think either
were at 100% at the start of SCN. 15.

Joe D.

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RE: US IX Corp understrength? - 6/26/2007 5:27:59 PM

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Five Indian Divs start at Brigade Strenght and need to be rebuilt 14th, 17th, 20th, 23rd and 26th.

This is a design choice to replicate Indian Divisions that have had bdes stripped off for other duties (17th Div lost two bdes to Burma for example and these are represented as Independent Bdes)

These forces will fill out over time but do not forget that the Indian manpower pool pre war was drawing only on the martial castes and recruiting zones were limited - most of the reinforcements were going to sustain 4th 5th and 8th Divs in the ME.

It was only in early 43 and later when Auchinleck took over India Command that the admin got organised and the reinforcements started to flow in numbers.

The game trys to represent this by starting these five Divisions understrength.

at 80 replacement squads a month it takes c 2.5 months per division to fill them all out so by end 42 if you are not using replacements to rebuild Indian Bdes destroyed in Malaya you wil have all five Divs ready for ops - in fact with normal combat losses and refilling the 10 base forces which take another 40 each it can take until late 43.

The normal real constraint on having formations combat ready are Indian Engineer Squads and 3" Morter Squads both of which are precious resource in 42 and early 43 (and probably need to increase over stock in 43/44 but thats another issue)

This is broadly correct. If the allied player chooses to rescue brigades that were disbanded and refill them this will take longer but that is a choice the allied player makes.

The Indian Army tried offensive ops in late 42/ealry 43 (Arakan) but it was not successfull partly due to the replacement situation.

It is not until late 43 that the Indian Army approaches full strength which is broadly correct.

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